It was a nice run, Jokic

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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#41 » by Exp0sed » Thu Oct 23, 2025 10:52 am

Maxthirty wrote:Now it’s Wemby’s turn. For a long time.
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If Wemby will stay healthy he will win his first MVP, probably MVP + DPOY

No1 (including Jokic) won't be able to compete with Wemby's raw stats, advanced stats, impact and he'll even have a good narrative as the Spurs will be a playoff team that might double (or almost) double their wins from last season

Awards aside, in the rs this is the season Wemby surpasses Jokic's impact on winning, on his obvious GOAT trajectory

Fwiw, i doubt many ppl are going to be excited by his GOATness, the dude is frigging 7'6 while moving and handling like a SF. It'd be weird if he weren't the GOAT

We can talk all we want about his talent,skills, I.Q and demeanor and he's def got all that going for him

He'd be a great player if he were say..6'9 but 7'6 with those traits and fluidity, that's more than generational, i doubt we'll see another even in the next 100 years..

P.s, as for the playoffs, Wemby will have to deliever under the bright lights to dethrone the current kings but i have little doubt that he will
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#42 » by Exp0sed » Thu Oct 23, 2025 10:53 am

Edrees wrote:I mean it's currently SGA's run?
OP meant his run as best player in the league. SGA was the rightful MVP last season but he wasn't the best player in the world

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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#43 » by Optms » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:16 am

Top 30 player his first year. Top 10 his second. And the best player at the start of his third season.

This is GOAT level trajectory.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#44 » by Godymas » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:20 am

I just can’t comprehend the level of delusion someone would need to have to say Jokic is better than Wemby

Jokic has NEVER displayed that level of offensive talent as a big. Wemby was out there playing like he was 6’5 in a 7’6 body. It defied everything
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#45 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:20 am

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PushDaRock wrote:lol I don't know about that just yet. People probably forget what Jokic did last season. Is Wemby going to put up a 30-13-10 season?

Obviously not (assists), but does he have to?


Well, if you're talking about surpassing Jokic then yes? The numbers need to at least be comparable or he needs to score or rebound way more than Jokic to make up for the lack of assist numbers.


No he doesn’t. He makes up for it significantly by being a legit DPOY candidate every single season.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#46 » by firedavidkahn » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:23 am

Wemby is the first person to actually unlock Space Jam mode.

Wemby is 100% ready now.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#47 » by Godymas » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:24 am

sashaturiaf wrote:Wembanyama is otherworldly but he's boring to watch. Every highlight of his is like watching a normal guy play on a kids hoop, he barely needs to jump to dunk.

Whenever I watch his highlight my first thought isn't that it's impressive, it's that basketball must be so easy when you're that size


Just say you don’t like basketball because when I saw this dude hit a one hand jam, or block a guy and then hit a 4 point play, or just make any scrub look like prime CP3 because he can catch any lob. He is the definition of pure hoops.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#48 » by Optms » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:31 am

sashaturiaf wrote:Wembanyama is otherworldly but he's boring to watch. Every highlight of his is like watching a normal guy play on a kids hoop, he barely needs to jump to dunk.

Whenever I watch his highlight my first thought isn't that it's impressive, it's that basketball must be so easy when you're that size


This man was out there reverse dunking from the baseline like Kobe, bullying smaller bigs like Shaq, dancing behind the 3 like Curry. Blocking shots like Mutombo. You've gotta be trolling.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#49 » by sashaturiaf » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:37 am

Optms wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:Wembanyama is otherworldly but he's boring to watch. Every highlight of his is like watching a normal guy play on a kids hoop, he barely needs to jump to dunk.

Whenever I watch his highlight my first thought isn't that it's impressive, it's that basketball must be so easy when you're that size


This man was out there reverse dunking from the baseline like Kobe, bullying smaller bigs like Shaq, dancing behind the 3 like Curry. Blocking shots like Mutombo. You've gotta be trolling.



It is a novelty watching a guy of his size do all that. But it's not that impressive when he's bigger and quicker than everyone
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Post#50 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:25 pm

I said so many times last season that Wembys biggest problem is he just jacks threes like he’s Steph except he sucks at shooting them (Tatum has the same problem by the way). And what do you know, look at how he played tonight. Only 2 three point attempts. It’s just one game but maybe he’s actually starting to get it.

Sooo many spurs fans were so pissed when I would say this last season. I was a hater, didn’t know ball, etc. They assured me that a guy who shoots 60% on 2s and 35% on 3s should be shooting even more 3s.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#51 » by The Servant » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:30 pm

ball_takes23 wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:lol I don't know about that just yet. People probably forget what Jokic did last season. Is Wemby going to put up a 30-13-10 season?


there are 2 sides to the court. Wemby averaging 27/11/4/4 is more impactful than Jokic averaging 30/13/10


Its. One. Game.

At the start of the season, against the team that got the #1 pick.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#52 » by Sixers in 4 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:33 pm

I don't know whose run it is but that denver team is nothing special. He isn't winning a chip with that group
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Post#53 » by hardenASG13 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:34 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:I said so many times last season that Wembys biggest problem is he just jacks threes like he’s Steph except he sucks at shooting them. And what do you know, look at how he played tonight. Only 2 three point attempts. It’s just one game but maybe he’s actually starting to get it.


He gained weight and strength which allows him not to be knocked off balance on his drives. Last year he was weaker. This was only a matter of time either way, as he clearly was going to put on weight. Jokic would have to obliterate Wembys offensive numbers to be considered better. Wemby is best defensive anchor ive ever seen, by far. Wait until Fox comes back, too. He gets downhill alot. If wembys man helps at all it's a lob, and Fox demands help when he gets downhill.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#54 » by Calvin Klein » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:36 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:Wembanyama is otherworldly but he's boring to watch. Every highlight of his is like watching a normal guy play on a kids hoop, he barely needs to jump to dunk.

Whenever I watch his highlight my first thought isn't that it's impressive, it's that basketball must be so easy when you're that size



have you seen Manute, Muresan, Shawn Bradley, Marjanovic play? did it look easy for them?
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#55 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:37 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:
LeBronSpaghetti wrote:I said so many times last season that Wembys biggest problem is he just jacks threes like he’s Steph except he sucks at shooting them. And what do you know, look at how he played tonight. Only 2 three point attempts. It’s just one game but maybe he’s actually starting to get it.


He gained weight and strength which allows him not to be knocked off balance on his drives. Last year he was weaker. This was only a matter of time either way, as he clearly was going to put on weight. Jokic would have to obliterate Wembys offensive numbers to be considered better. Wemby is best defensive anchor ive ever seen, by far. Wait until Fox comes back, too. He gets downhill alot. If wembys man helps at all it's a lob, and Fox demands help when he gets downhill.

Or we could just relax and acknowledge that it was one game
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#56 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:39 pm

PushDaRock wrote:lol I don't know about that just yet. People probably forget what Jokic did last season. Is Wemby going to put up a 30-13-10 season?


Jokic is a regular season player that plays no defense and doesn't impact winning. This is a guy that has won multiple MVP's without being a top 2-3 seed. You worship Harden in center form. Thread is wrong anyway, because we've been living in Luka's timeline, but it looks like we might be entering Wembys now.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#57 » by Sgt Major » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:46 pm

UglyBugBall wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:lol I don't know about that just yet. People probably forget what Jokic did last season. Is Wemby going to put up a 30-13-10 season?


Jokic is a regular season player that plays no defense and doesn't impact winning. This is a guy that has won multiple MVP's without being a top 2-3 seed. You worship Harden in center form. Thread is wrong anyway, because we've been living in Luka's timeline, but it looks like we might be entering Wembys now.




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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#58 » by Ssj16 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:00 pm

Godymas wrote:I just can’t comprehend the level of delusion someone would need to have to say Jokic is better than Wemby

Jokic has NEVER displayed that level of offensive talent as a big. Wemby was out there playing like he was 6’5 in a 7’6 body. It defied everything


This is a ridiculous comment. Jokic has been doing things for years that no other 7 footer has done on the offensive side as well as putting up stat lines that no other player has done, period. It took the avengers in team USA to take him out of the Olympics by adding Embiid.

There is no need to detract from Jokic's greatness to prop up Wemby.

They have both done stuff no one has seen, even if you think Wemby is more impressive.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#59 » by Profound23 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:02 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:That Fox trade and subsequent extension was so dumb in retrospect. What can they get for him?



If I am San Antonio I offer Fox, Harper, and a bunch of future picks for Giannis.

I think Bucks but take that offer too especially with those Atlanta picks.
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Re: It was a nice run, Jokic 

Post#60 » by hardenASG13 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:08 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:
hardenASG13 wrote:
LeBronSpaghetti wrote:I said so many times last season that Wembys biggest problem is he just jacks threes like he’s Steph except he sucks at shooting them. And what do you know, look at how he played tonight. Only 2 three point attempts. It’s just one game but maybe he’s actually starting to get it.


He gained weight and strength which allows him not to be knocked off balance on his drives. Last year he was weaker. This was only a matter of time either way, as he clearly was going to put on weight. Jokic would have to obliterate Wembys offensive numbers to be considered better. Wemby is best defensive anchor ive ever seen, by far. Wait until Fox comes back, too. He gets downhill alot. If wembys man helps at all it's a lob, and Fox demands help when he gets downhill.

Or we could just relax and acknowledge that it was one game


Nah ive watched a ton of wemby since he came into the league. This was inevitable once he got stronger, it was the only thing holding him back from playing like that all the time. The defense thing (being by far the best defender in the league)was already clear last year. He won't score 40 every night, obviously, but he's going to be among the league leaders in scoring and rebounding, while providing excellent spacing and being the runaway DPOY. That's hard to beat just because Jokic gets some DHO/handoff assists.

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