GT #2: WIZ @ MAVS 10/24 at 8:30 pm eastern

[tontoz]

You guys are swinging WAY too much from result to result.

Weren't you the guy making a big deal about what Ace was doing in a couple of preseason games?

[nate33]

I agree with Consiglieri. We need to dial back the talk about the tank being in jeopardy. The Wizards still aren't very good. We can't overlook that the Dallas Mavericks are a mess and are implementing a ridiculous strategy of playing Flagg at PG. A mediocre Spurs team that just barely dispatched the Pelicans in overtime routed Dallas by 33.

I didn't think we would be a 19-win disaster team like the Vegas odds suggested, but I'm also not worried about winning 30 games either. I expect Kyshawn's production to fall off a little bit once teams start bothering to scout him.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Easy to forget we were down 14 early before we opened up the can.....

Or that we were down by 20 against the Bucks before still getting our ----- kicked by double digits, a Bucks team people expect to be about .500.

You guys are swinging WAY too much from result to result. We suck, this guy sucks! This guy's god mode, we're not keeping our pick and I'm fine with it (which is insane, no offense to you two, but it is)".

Games will swing back and forth dramatically because we have young improving players, and quality old vets mixed in, but roster for roster there's a reason the O/U on our win total was 20.5. Vegas, and everyone else expects us to be a bit better, but not much better, and still they all see us as a bottom 3 side.

This is a season about watching player development and improvement and celebrating it, and not fixating so much on results that you turn into Debbie downer whenever the team ----'s the bed. Rely on me to be your Debbie downer, and just enjoy the players working slowly but surely to find out what caliber of player they are in the NBA.

This isn't a 40 win team people, at best, we're at risk at winning 30ish, but I think an O/U of 20.5 was probably reasonable. I suspect we'll win 22-25. The org is not going to let the team win 35 games or whatever. They aren't idiots. The only way that happens is if the young guys are actually hidden stars, and not just mostly complimentary players with maybe 1 or 2 with higher upside.

Enjoy the games, but man the yo you effect result to result in here is NUTS.

It was a fun win, but I'm confident this team is going to finish bottom 4 . If only because of youth and inexperience.

The important goals of this season are keeping our pick, developing our young players, and identifying the players that are keepers and building blocks.

I think Kyshawn has already solidified his place on this team moving forward. Tre is already starting to make a case for himself. As is Sarr, making a conscious effort to evolve his style of play. Riley is hitting the early indicators of becoming a foundational piece.

Bilal is the other one who has the potential to establish himself on this team once he returns, and will be intriguing to see if he comes in and takes that next step like Kyshawn.

Bub has been disappointing so far but its early. And his path here is more rooted to his leadership skills and on court mentality than becoming any kind of dominant player, we just need him to become a solid game manager for him to carve out a long-term place on this team.

This is the playbook for this season.

Then bring in Peterson or Boozer...

(And don't forget we have 2 1st round picks)

Next season is the jump.

[BearlyBallin]

lol, I’m too old to wait for a sure thing.
I’ve got to celebrate while I still can.

More reasons to feel good…

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[dobrojim]

Still many unknowns to unfold.

[BearlyBallin]

Ky George is maybe the only thing Dawkins has done right on this squad. Still a lot to be seen, but he's the type of archetype this team should be developing.

All the other pieces are soft. This kid on the other hand is interesting.

Tell you what -- you are a hard man to please!

Maybe hard to please but I love his nickname for Kyshawn “The Archetype”

[AFM]

THE ARCHETYPE. And Dawkins is THE ARCHITECT.

[tontoz]

Meh. I prefer The Fro.

[J-Ves]

I agree with Consiglieri. We need to dial back the talk about the tank being in jeopardy. The Wizards still aren't very good. We can't overlook that the Dallas Mavericks are a mess and are implementing a ridiculous strategy of playing Flagg at PG. A mediocre Spurs team that just barely dispatched the Pelicans in overtime routed Dallas by 33.

I didn't think we would be a 19-win disaster team like the Vegas odds suggested, but I'm also not worried about winning 30 games either. I expect Kyshawn's production to fall off a little bit once teams start bothering to scout him.

We do this every year. We win one of our first 3 games and suddenly the tank is in jeopardy. Last year Bilal was on his way to being mip after a few weeks and I expect the same will be said about Kyshawn. Beware early returns as they are often just noise

[9 and 20]

Still many unknowns to unfold.

Unknown #1 - how many MVPs will Kyshawn win?
Unknown #2 - how many DPOYs will Kyshawn win?

[nate33]

I was very impressed with Tre Johnson's play last night. It's not just that he hit a bunch of 3's, I really thought he LOOKED faster and more athletic than he looked in the first game. He was a step faster than most everyone else on the floor. He also played good D and showed some quick hands. And he did not make the bad rotations he made in Game 1. His help defense was very good.

If his defense continues to hold up, then it really makes little sense to keep him out of the starting lineup. If he defends like last night, he is already the best guard on the roster. Definitely better than Bub and arguably better than McCollum.

When Bilal gets back, I would like to see a starting lineup of Tre, Bilal, Middleton, Kyshawn and Sarr. There's enough ball handlers and ball movers in that group that we don't need a PG at all.

[Northwest Roddy]

And that would leave a nice 2nd unit of Bub, CJ, Whitmore, Champagne/Kispert, Vuc/Bagley. That’s a solid second unit with some bucket getters. Though i hope we trade CJ and put Riley in that spot.

[WallToWall]

When Bilal gets back, I would like to see a starting lineup of Tre, Bilal, Middleton, Kyshawn and Sarr. There's enough ball handlers and ball movers in that group that we don't need a PG at all.

two point-forwards, and two guards that are automatic. If/when Whitmore and Tre improve their handles, I think a lineup of Tre, Bilal, Cam, Kyshawn, and Alex would be interesting.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

When Bilal gets back, I would like to see a starting lineup of Tre, Bilal, Middleton, Kyshawn and Sarr. There's enough ball handlers and ball movers in that group that we don't need a PG at all.

two point-forwards, and two guards that are automatic. If/when Whitmore and Tre improve their handles, I think a lineup of Tre, Bilal, Cam, Kyshawn, and Alex would be interesting.

I'd like to see Sarr, Kyshawn, Coulibaly, Tre, Will Riley as the ultimate goal for the starting lineup by the end of the season.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

When Bilal gets back, I would like to see a starting lineup of Tre, Bilal, Middleton, Kyshawn and Sarr. There's enough ball handlers and ball movers in that group that we don't need a PG at all.

two point-forwards, and two guards that are automatic. If/when Whitmore and Tre improve their handles, I think a lineup of Tre, Bilal, Cam, Kyshawn, and Alex would be interesting.

I'd like to see Sarr, Kyshawn, Coulibaly, Tre, Will Riley as the ultimate goal for the starting lineup by the end of the season.

The size, length, athleticism, versatility, IQ, defense, switchability, pass/handle/shoot, grab-n-go ability of this lineup individually and collectively 1 through 5...

[nate33]

When Bilal gets back, I would like to see a starting lineup of Tre, Bilal, Middleton, Kyshawn and Sarr. There's enough ball handlers and ball movers in that group that we don't need a PG at all.

two point-forwards, and two guards that are automatic. If/when Whitmore and Tre improve their handles, I think a lineup of Tre, Bilal, Cam, Kyshawn, and Alex would be interesting.

I'd like to see Sarr, Kyshawn, Coulibaly, Tre, Will Riley as the ultimate goal for the starting lineup by the end of the season.

Yeah. That should be the goal. But I'm okay starting Middleton in the short term to boost his value and to have at least one heady veteran on the floor. Also, Middleton's midrange game is the closest thing we have to a reliable go-to option.

In the meantime, I would like to see Riley bumped up into the regular second-unit rotation instead of being our 11th man who plays 4 minutes a night. Can we get him 16 minutes a game?

[dckingsfan]

After the game Kyshawn was interviewed and asked about guarding Flagg. He mentioned watching film on him before the game. Didn't say how long but I suspect that a lot of players don't do that

I mean, very small sample size but it seems like he the real deal. Maybe more so than even Sarr (although that may change as he is put in a better place, if you will).

I am really impressed with his play thus far.

[GoneShammGone]

I agree with Consiglieri. We need to dial back the talk about the tank being in jeopardy. The Wizards still aren't very good. We can't overlook that the Dallas Mavericks are a mess and are implementing a ridiculous strategy of playing Flagg at PG. A mediocre Spurs team that just barely dispatched the Pelicans in overtime routed Dallas by 33.

I didn't think we would be a 19-win disaster team like the Vegas odds suggested, but I'm also not worried about winning 30 games either. I expect Kyshawn's production to fall off a little bit once teams start bothering to scout him.

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I'm taking my irrational exuberance where I can get it! KYSHAWN for MVP!

[doclinkin]

I think he has a very real chance of MIP

[tontoz]

I didn't have a problem with the Cam trade at the time but now I wish he wasn't here. The logjam for minutes will get even worse when Bilal comes back.

I would like to see Riley more but the only way that will happen is if we buy out CJ/Khris which could really hurt the tank.