Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread)

[prime1time]

My position is simple. If Wemby stays healthy there is no MVP race. When you're watching MJ play how many games did it take to know he's special? If you watched Shaq or Magic or Steph play how many games did it take to know they were special? Wemby is S-P-E-C-I-A-L. It doesn't matter what anyone else does. How many points anyone else scores. How many rebounds they get. How many assists they get. How many games anyone else wins. If Wemby stays healthy the race is over. People in this thread talking about it's only day 8 of the season. To be honest I only really needed 1 game and that's probably too much. More like a handful of plays.

How many paintings did it take to know that Picasso was a great painter? How many songs does it take to know that the Beatles are really good? How many speeches does it take to know that Dr. King was a great orator? How many soccer games do you have to watch to know that Messi is one of the greatest soccer players of all time. How many Ali boxing matches do you have to watch to know that he's boxing GOAT? How many times do you have to watch Deion Sanders play football to know that he's going to be special? How many lectures did Einstein have to give before people knew he was very smart?

The way Wemby moves, his height, his length, his ability to knockdown free throws, his ball handling ability and his mindset let me know all I need to know. A guy who's 7'6/7'7 with an 8 feet wingspan, who moves like that, can knock down shots, and has elite ball handling will absolutely dominate the game of basketball. If someone created a human being in a lab to be the best basketball player ever they would create Wemby.

[prime1time]

My position is simple. If Wemby stays healthy there is no MVP race. When you're watching MJ play how many games did it take to know he's special? If you watched Shaq or Magic or Steph play how many games did it take to know they were special? Wemby is S-P-E-C-I-A-L. It doesn't matter what anyone else does. How many points anyone else scores. How many rebounds they get. How many assists they get. How many games anyone else wins. If Wemby stays healthy the race is over. People in this thread talking about it's only day 8 of the season. To be honest I only really needed 1 game and that's probably too much. More like a handful of plays.

How many paintings did it take to know that Picasso was a great painter? How many songs does it take to know that the Beatles are really good? How many speeches does it take to know that Dr. King was a great orator? How many soccer games do you have to watch to know that Messi is one of the greatest soccer players of all time. How many Ali boxing matches do you have to watch to know that he's boxing GOAT? How many times do you have to watch Deion Sanders play football to know that he's going to be special? How many lectures did Einstein have to give before people knew he was very smart?

The way Wemby moves, his height, his length, his ability to knockdown free throws, his ball handling ability and his mindset let me know all I need to know. A guy who's 7'6/7'7 with an 8 feet wingspan, who moves like that, can knock down shots, and has elite ball handling will absolutely dominate the game of basketball. If someone created a human being in a lab to be the best basketball player ever they would create Wemby.

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Who would have guessed a guy who's 7'6 and can move like this would be a problem for the NBA?

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A guy who can do this and is 7'6 but let's wait to see if he's actually the real deal lol.

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Barring aliens coming to earth and stealing Wemby's talent like Space Jam this guy is clear cut the MVP.

[Bornstellar]

Wemby had a great game tonight, probably his first or second best game of the season, but only had 8 shot attempts because his teammates will inexplicably forget they have a 7’6 monster and they can just throw the ball up anywhere near him.

Primary ball handlers like SGA and Giannis have the advantage of being able to get up as many shots as they want, but Wemby so good that it might not matter.

Actually thought it was a good sign of his growth last night. Raptors made a concerted effort to try and stop him and were doubling/tripling him all night and he didn't force anything, made all the right plays, and took over when the Raptors made a run to squash their hopes.

[_NoMas]

If all you focus on is counting stats then yes it is close. If you actually focus on impact you'd understand that even without the blocks he is impacting shots. He's playing GOAT defense. They have the largest point differential in the league. They are undefeated. Without him they are probably a lottery team. He's faraway and the MVP front runner. And if this continues he'll have it wrapped up in one of the least competitive races in NBA history.

Roll on day 8 of the NBA season…

Comes to the MVP discussion and *checks notes* is displeased that people are making observations.

Displeased? On the contrary, your post gave me quite the chuckle

[CharityStripe34]

I think we all know the MVP thread is the "jump to conclusions way too early" thread. It's a time-honored tradition (Vince McMahon voice).

[BigGargamel]

If the Spurs win 50 games, which it looks like they just might, it's Wembanyama. What a monster. And.... *checks note*...he is 21 years old. RIP to the rest of the NBA. Man I hope that guy stays healthy. He's going to be an all time great.

Jokic is probably done winning MVP's unless he puts up a 30/15/15 season. He's so consistently great, but voters are probably tired of him dominating and wants some new blood.

[MMyhre]

Sheesh, you're lovely today...
We're posting based on 3 games, and based on these 3 games, it isn't close.

What exactly isn't close after these 3 games?

Luka averages 46/11.5/8.5
Giannis averages 36/16/7
Wemby averages 33.3/13.3/7
Shai averages 40/6/5
Jokic averages 17.5/13.5/12.5


So, what isn't close?

I actually stated apecifically why if you bothered reading instead of calling people 15 y/o, Wemby is also runaway DPOY in addition to the his numners.

You didn't state anything of significance as to why, at this point we need to classify you kids as Wembysexuals. Lets put some context into this and look deeper. We have so many great players, the MVP race is going to be very close. Wemby has shown signs of inconsistency in his all around scoring against the Nets and the Pelicans.

Wemby has played against four pretty **** teams, which you guys, of course, ignore and will not mention to make your arguments look better. That is called being biased, and makes you less credible to the trained eye.

Wembys jump shooting is cooling off after he just got hot in one game. He has went 3-9 from 3pt, and 1-6 from 10-16 feet, 2-5 from 16 ft to 3pt line after the Dallas game and shooting a very unimpressive 30 % on tougher jump shots, giving the teams with better defensive personnel and defenses a clear way to play him, make him take as many jumpers as possible, stick strong and fast defenders on him and deny him chances to attack the rim as much as possible.

The four teams Wemby has beaten has a 2-13 win loss record, and 3 out of the 5 has been the bottom 5 worst teams in the NBA so far.

Is Wemby the leading MVP contender early? Yeah. Has he basically won the award already and is insanely far ahead of everyone else after beating some of the worst teams in the league? Absolutely not.

What I will say is that I don't think Shai has the same impact as Wemby if he keeps shooting 22 % from three with just good, not great playmaking and Chet stepping up big as their second option. So Wemby with his big defensive advantage has him beat unless Shai heats up from three and adds more playmaking or OKC keeps winning every game and the Spurs start losing when they meet better teams.
That is if Wemby can sustain his hot offensive start, which I don't think he will to this level against better teams and defenses, but he should still be at 28 + pts on 62 + ts +/-, so more than enough with his defense and impact.
Jokic idk, need to see more, and Murray is doing more this season.
Giannis has started excellently, but is nowhere near his 2020 defensive level, and I don't see them winning a lot, but who knows he will be in the mix.
That leaves Luka as his main contender in terms of performance, but he only has 2 games and got injured so Wemby can indeed build strong momentum early with a pretty easy schedule ahead as well. I don't think Luka will win MVP because I find him a bit injury prone/still too heavy to really play 70 + games and carry the Lakers. How are we injured already? And I am not high on the Lakers in general.
I don't see the Warriors rolling all season, but if they somehow win 60 + games, which I don't see happening, Curry would be up there.

So right now it's :
1 Wemby
a little bit of a gap
2 Shai
3 Giannis
4 Curry
5 Jokic
6 Luka (due to not being able to play for a bit going forward)

[Bornstellar]

What exactly isn't close after these 3 games?

Luka averages 46/11.5/8.5
Giannis averages 36/16/7
Wemby averages 33.3/13.3/7
Shai averages 40/6/5
Jokic averages 17.5/13.5/12.5


So, what isn't close?

I actually stated apecifically why if you bothered reading instead of calling people 15 y/o, Wemby is also runaway DPOY in addition to the his numners.

You didn't state anything of significance as to why, at this point we need to classify you kids as Wembysexuals. Lets put some context into this and look deeper. We have so many great players, the MVP race is going to be very close. Wemby has shown signs of inconsistency in his all around scoring against the Nets and the Pelicans.

Wemby has played against four pretty **** teams, which you guys, of course, ignore and will not mention to make your arguments look better. That is called being biased, and makes you less credible to the trained eye.

Wembys jump shooting is cooling off after he just got hot in one game. He has went 3-9 from 3pt, and 1-6 from 10-16 feet, 2-5 from 16 ft to 3pt line after the Dallas game and shooting a very unimpressive 30 % on tougher jump shots, giving the teams with better defensive personnel and defenses a clear way to play him, make him take as many jumpers as possible, stick strong and fast defenders on him and deny him chances to attack the rim as much as possible.

The four teams Wemby has beaten has a 2-13 win loss record, and 3 out of the 5 has been the bottom 5 worst teams in the NBA so far.

Is Wemby the leading MVP contender early? Yeah. Has he basically won the award already and is insanely far ahead of everyone else after beating some of the worst teams in the league? Absolutely not.

What I will say is that I don't think Shai has the same impact as Wemby if he keeps shooting 22 % from three with just good, not great playmaking and Chet stepping up big as their second option. So Wemby with his big defensive advantage has him beat unless Shai heats up from three and adds more playmaking or OKC keeps winning every game and the Spurs start losing when they meet better teams.
That is if Wemby can sustain his hot offensive start, which I don't think he will to this level against better teams and defenses, but he should still be at 28 + pts on 62 + ts +/-, so more than enough with his defense and impact.
Jokic idk, need to see more, and Murray is doing more this season.
Giannis has started excellently, but is nowhere near his 2020 defensive level, and I don't see them winning a lot, but who knows he will be in the mix.
That leaves Luka as his main contender in terms of performance, but he only has 2 games and got injured so Wemby can indeed build strong momentum early with a pretty easy schedule ahead as well. I don't think Luka will win MVP because I find him a bit injury prone/still too heavy to really play 70 + games and carry the Lakers. How are we injured already? And I am not high on the Lakers in general.
I don't see the Warriors rolling all season, but if they somehow win 60 + games, which I don't see happening, Curry would be up there.

So right now it's :
1 Wemby
a little bit of a gap
2 Shai
3 Giannis
4 Curry
5 Jokic
6 Luka (due to not being able to play for a bit going forward)

First, it's silly to try and remove a game as an outlier when we're four games into the season. Because I can make the same argument that if you take out the 1 poor shooting night he had against Brooklyn, he would actually be shooting almost 70% from the field. 71% in game 1, 56% in game 2, and 88% last night.

Second, dude we're four games into the season and you're complaining that he has only played 4 bad teams. How are you going to hold that against him? It's not like he can choose his opponent. He has dominated everyone in front of him regardless of who it is. Arguing about these teams combined W-L record at this point of the season is just as silly as trying to proclaim who the MVP is already. And in the end, you still have Victor as the leader.

Is Wemby going to score at a .684 TS% clip all season? Probably not. But maybe he will. At this point it's too early to be nitpicking the opponent. You can try to break his numbers down all you want to argue about his efficiency but the fact remains he has been an offensive juggernaut and the best defensive player in the NBA in the first 4 games of the season

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[MMyhre]

I actually stated apecifically why if you bothered reading instead of calling people 15 y/o, Wemby is also runaway DPOY in addition to the his numners.

You didn't state anything of significance as to why, at this point we need to classify you kids as Wembysexuals. Lets put some context into this and look deeper. We have so many great players, the MVP race is going to be very close. Wemby has shown signs of inconsistency in his all around scoring against the Nets and the Pelicans.

Wemby has played against four pretty **** teams, which you guys, of course, ignore and will not mention to make your arguments look better. That is called being biased, and makes you less credible to the trained eye.

Wembys jump shooting is cooling off after he just got hot in one game. He has went 3-9 from 3pt, and 1-6 from 10-16 feet, 2-5 from 16 ft to 3pt line after the Dallas game and shooting a very unimpressive 30 % on tougher jump shots, giving the teams with better defensive personnel and defenses a clear way to play him, make him take as many jumpers as possible, stick strong and fast defenders on him and deny him chances to attack the rim as much as possible.

The four teams Wemby has beaten has a 2-13 win loss record, and 3 out of the 5 has been the bottom 5 worst teams in the NBA so far.

Is Wemby the leading MVP contender early? Yeah. Has he basically won the award already and is insanely far ahead of everyone else after beating some of the worst teams in the league? Absolutely not.

What I will say is that I don't think Shai has the same impact as Wemby if he keeps shooting 22 % from three with just good, not great playmaking and Chet stepping up big as their second option. So Wemby with his big defensive advantage has him beat unless Shai heats up from three and adds more playmaking or OKC keeps winning every game and the Spurs start losing when they meet better teams.
That is if Wemby can sustain his hot offensive start, which I don't think he will to this level against better teams and defenses, but he should still be at 28 + pts on 62 + ts +/-, so more than enough with his defense and impact.
Jokic idk, need to see more, and Murray is doing more this season.
Giannis has started excellently, but is nowhere near his 2020 defensive level, and I don't see them winning a lot, but who knows he will be in the mix.
That leaves Luka as his main contender in terms of performance, but he only has 2 games and got injured so Wemby can indeed build strong momentum early with a pretty easy schedule ahead as well. I don't think Luka will win MVP because I find him a bit injury prone/still too heavy to really play 70 + games and carry the Lakers. How are we injured already? And I am not high on the Lakers in general.
I don't see the Warriors rolling all season, but if they somehow win 60 + games, which I don't see happening, Curry would be up there.

So right now it's :
1 Wemby
a little bit of a gap
2 Shai
3 Giannis
4 Curry
5 Jokic
6 Luka (due to not being able to play for a bit going forward)

First, it's silly to try and remove a game as an outlier when we're four games into the season. Because I can make the same argument that if you take out the 1 poor shooting night he had against Brooklyn, he would actually be shooting almost 70% from the field. 71% in game 1, 56% in game 2, and 88% last night.

Second, dude we're four games into the season and you're complaining that he has only played 4 bad teams. How are you going to hold that against him? It's not like he can choose his opponent. He has dominated everyone in front of him regardless of who it is. Arguing about these teams combined W-L record at this point of the season is just as silly as trying to proclaim who the MVP is already. And in the end, you still have Victor as the leader.

Is Wemby going to score at a .684 TS% clip all season? Probably not. But maybe he will. At this point it's too early to be nitpicking the opponent. You can try to break his numbers down all you want to argue about his efficiency but the fact remains he has been an offensive juggernaut and the best defensive player in the NBA in the first 4 games of the season

He hasn't dominated offensively against the Pelicans or the Nets though. Why am I adding context to you guys blindly fanboying over Wemby? How dare I? He must be praised as if he is perfect and glazed every day by "The Wemby Brotherhood" in here. With boring posts repeating the same stuff over and over again.

"Dude" we're four games into the season and you kids are crowning Wemby as the GOAT, of course someone is going to get tired of reading all this nonsense when there are signs in there that show that if he becomes a jump shooter against better defenses, he might not be efficient.

Shooting 30 % on jumpers over three games against poor defenses does not sound like an offensive juggernaut to me. Why is removing the one hot game illegal, when three games is a bigger sample size than one? That just shows that the jump shooting <- read this, jump shooting, not his field goal %, his jump shooting is not as elite as you guys would like to believe it was after the Dallas game.

Why are you using field goal percentage instead of true shooting to make it look better? Again, you're biased, he had a 58.6 ts % in game 2, that was below average ts % for centers in 24/25.

It's the same as when I argued with you last year, you just can't stay objective when you argue about Wemby. All you do is try to find every damned little straw to defend him, instead of acknowledging the added context I just gave you.

Why are you adding the defense? Are you really this insecure about Wemby that you need to boast about his defense in an argument about his opposition so far and offense? Stop repeating the same stuff. We know Wemby is a great defender. That doesn't mean he is perfect and is going to dominate tougher defenses this season.

I like Wemby and I think he will have a great season, but his fanbase is particularly insufferable. I fought the Kobe fans back in the day, but you guys are something else.

So because I talk a little bit deeper about how Wemby has performed, and mention some possible weaknesses, that means I can't think he has been the best player overall this season? So you think one has to only say positive stuff and ignore all substance to rank someone as number one? I am sorry, but are you stupid? When we want to evaluate a players performance, it's pretty obvious that we need to consider more factors to get a better picture of how good that player is. And pretending like Wemby has been perfect offensively, and that playing against the worst teams in the league will not make him look better is just a sign of being biased, or less intellectual. Or a combination.

[Bornstellar]

You didn't state anything of significance as to why, at this point we need to classify you kids as Wembysexuals. Lets put some context into this and look deeper. We have so many great players, the MVP race is going to be very close. Wemby has shown signs of inconsistency in his all around scoring against the Nets and the Pelicans.

Wemby has played against four pretty **** teams, which you guys, of course, ignore and will not mention to make your arguments look better. That is called being biased, and makes you less credible to the trained eye.

Wembys jump shooting is cooling off after he just got hot in one game. He has went 3-9 from 3pt, and 1-6 from 10-16 feet, 2-5 from 16 ft to 3pt line after the Dallas game and shooting a very unimpressive 30 % on tougher jump shots, giving the teams with better defensive personnel and defenses a clear way to play him, make him take as many jumpers as possible, stick strong and fast defenders on him and deny him chances to attack the rim as much as possible.

The four teams Wemby has beaten has a 2-13 win loss record, and 3 out of the 5 has been the bottom 5 worst teams in the NBA so far.

Is Wemby the leading MVP contender early? Yeah. Has he basically won the award already and is insanely far ahead of everyone else after beating some of the worst teams in the league? Absolutely not.

What I will say is that I don't think Shai has the same impact as Wemby if he keeps shooting 22 % from three with just good, not great playmaking and Chet stepping up big as their second option. So Wemby with his big defensive advantage has him beat unless Shai heats up from three and adds more playmaking or OKC keeps winning every game and the Spurs start losing when they meet better teams.
That is if Wemby can sustain his hot offensive start, which I don't think he will to this level against better teams and defenses, but he should still be at 28 + pts on 62 + ts +/-, so more than enough with his defense and impact.
Jokic idk, need to see more, and Murray is doing more this season.
Giannis has started excellently, but is nowhere near his 2020 defensive level, and I don't see them winning a lot, but who knows he will be in the mix.
That leaves Luka as his main contender in terms of performance, but he only has 2 games and got injured so Wemby can indeed build strong momentum early with a pretty easy schedule ahead as well. I don't think Luka will win MVP because I find him a bit injury prone/still too heavy to really play 70 + games and carry the Lakers. How are we injured already? And I am not high on the Lakers in general.
I don't see the Warriors rolling all season, but if they somehow win 60 + games, which I don't see happening, Curry would be up there.

So right now it's :
1 Wemby
a little bit of a gap
2 Shai
3 Giannis
4 Curry
5 Jokic
6 Luka (due to not being able to play for a bit going forward)

First, it's silly to try and remove a game as an outlier when we're four games into the season. Because I can make the same argument that if you take out the 1 poor shooting night he had against Brooklyn, he would actually be shooting almost 70% from the field. 71% in game 1, 56% in game 2, and 88% last night.

Second, dude we're four games into the season and you're complaining that he has only played 4 bad teams. How are you going to hold that against him? It's not like he can choose his opponent. He has dominated everyone in front of him regardless of who it is. Arguing about these teams combined W-L record at this point of the season is just as silly as trying to proclaim who the MVP is already. And in the end, you still have Victor as the leader.

Is Wemby going to score at a .684 TS% clip all season? Probably not. But maybe he will. At this point it's too early to be nitpicking the opponent. You can try to break his numbers down all you want to argue about his efficiency but the fact remains he has been an offensive juggernaut and the best defensive player in the NBA in the first 4 games of the season

He hasn't dominated offensively against the Pelicans or the Nets though. Why am I adding context to you guys blindly fanboying over Wemby? How dare I? He must be praised as if he is perfect and glazed every day by "The Wemby Brotherhood" in here. With boring posts repeating the same stuff over and over again.

"Dude" we're four games into the season and you kids are crowning Wemby as the GOAT, of course someone is going to get tired of reading all this nonsense when there are signs in there that show that if he becomes a jump shooter against better defenses, he might not be efficient.

Shooting 30 % on jumpers over three games against poor defenses does not sound like an offensive juggernaut to me. Why is removing the one hot game illegal, when three games is a bigger sample size than one? That just shows that the jump shooting <- read this, jump shooting, not his field goal %, his jump shooting is not as elite as you guys would like to believe it was after the Dallas game.

Why are you using field goal percentage instead of true shooting to make it look better? Again, you're biased, he had a 58.6 ts % in game 2, that was below average ts % for centers in 24/25.

It's the same as when I argued with you last year, you just can't stay objective when you argue about Wemby. All you do is try to find every damned little straw to defend him, instead of acknowledging the added context I just gave you.

Why are you adding the defense? Are you really this insecure about Wemby that you need to boast about his defense in an argument about his opposition so far and offense? Stop repeating the same stuff. We know Wemby is a great defender. That doesn't mean he is perfect and is going to dominate tougher defenses this season.

I like Wemby and I think he will have a great season, but his fanbase is particularly insufferable. I fought the Kobe fans back in the day, but you guys are something else.

So because I talk a little bit deeper about how Wemby has performed, and mention some possible weaknesses, that means I can't think he has been the best player overall this season? So you think one has to only say positive stuff and ignore all substance to rank someone as number one? I am sorry, but are you stupid? When we want to evaluate a players performance, it's pretty obvious that we need to consider more factors to get a better picture of how good that player is. And pretending like Wemby has been perfect offensively, and that playing against the worst teams in the league will not make him look better is just a sign of being biased, or less intellectual. Or a combination.

Not even going to read this drivel. When you start calling people "kids" because they don't agree with your opinion you've lost credibility. Maybe try to talk sports like an adult next time and people will take you seriously.

[Optms]

Sounds like he's trying to find a needle in a hay stack because no stats or even eye test analysis back up the narrative he wants to create that we are jumping the gun on this generational talent. Fighting a losing battle here.

I mean, we all react differently. I for sure didn't see Wemby taking over the league like this 2 weeks ago. Certainly not by game 1. And if you look back to page 1 of this thread, neither did anyone else. Sometimes you just gotta accept it though. Wemby is now apart of the conversation and that is not changing anytime soon.

[MMyhre]

First, it's silly to try and remove a game as an outlier when we're four games into the season. Because I can make the same argument that if you take out the 1 poor shooting night he had against Brooklyn, he would actually be shooting almost 70% from the field. 71% in game 1, 56% in game 2, and 88% last night.

Second, dude we're four games into the season and you're complaining that he has only played 4 bad teams. How are you going to hold that against him? It's not like he can choose his opponent. He has dominated everyone in front of him regardless of who it is. Arguing about these teams combined W-L record at this point of the season is just as silly as trying to proclaim who the MVP is already. And in the end, you still have Victor as the leader.

Is Wemby going to score at a .684 TS% clip all season? Probably not. But maybe he will. At this point it's too early to be nitpicking the opponent. You can try to break his numbers down all you want to argue about his efficiency but the fact remains he has been an offensive juggernaut and the best defensive player in the NBA in the first 4 games of the season

He hasn't dominated offensively against the Pelicans or the Nets though. Why am I adding context to you guys blindly fanboying over Wemby? How dare I? He must be praised as if he is perfect and glazed every day by "The Wemby Brotherhood" in here. With boring posts repeating the same stuff over and over again.

"Dude" we're four games into the season and you kids are crowning Wemby as the GOAT, of course someone is going to get tired of reading all this nonsense when there are signs in there that show that if he becomes a jump shooter against better defenses, he might not be efficient.

Shooting 30 % on jumpers over three games against poor defenses does not sound like an offensive juggernaut to me. Why is removing the one hot game illegal, when three games is a bigger sample size than one? That just shows that the jump shooting <- read this, jump shooting, not his field goal %, his jump shooting is not as elite as you guys would like to believe it was after the Dallas game.

Why are you using field goal percentage instead of true shooting to make it look better? Again, you're biased, he had a 58.6 ts % in game 2, that was below average ts % for centers in 24/25.

It's the same as when I argued with you last year, you just can't stay objective when you argue about Wemby. All you do is try to find every damned little straw to defend him, instead of acknowledging the added context I just gave you.

Why are you adding the defense? Are you really this insecure about Wemby that you need to boast about his defense in an argument about his opposition so far and offense? Stop repeating the same stuff. We know Wemby is a great defender. That doesn't mean he is perfect and is going to dominate tougher defenses this season.

I like Wemby and I think he will have a great season, but his fanbase is particularly insufferable. I fought the Kobe fans back in the day, but you guys are something else.

So because I talk a little bit deeper about how Wemby has performed, and mention some possible weaknesses, that means I can't think he has been the best player overall this season? So you think one has to only say positive stuff and ignore all substance to rank someone as number one? I am sorry, but are you stupid? When we want to evaluate a players performance, it's pretty obvious that we need to consider more factors to get a better picture of how good that player is. And pretending like Wemby has been perfect offensively, and that playing against the worst teams in the league will not make him look better is just a sign of being biased, or less intellectual. Or a combination.

Not even going to read this drivel. When you start calling people "kids" because they don't agree with your opinion you've lost credibility. Maybe try to talk sports like an adult next time and people will take you seriously.

Hehe, says the boy using emojis to try to ridicule someone because they think critically about their hero.

Just walk away when you get challenged, shows how spineless you are.

Strike. Personal attacks are not allowed. Take it down a notch.
- ccs

[MMyhre]

Sounds like he's trying to find a needle in a hay stack because no stats or even eye test analysis back up the narrative he wants to create that we are jumping the gun on this generational talent. Fighting a losing battle here.

I mean, we all react differently. I for sure didn't see Wemby taking over the league like this 2 weeks ago. Certainly not by game 1. And if you look back to page 1 of this thread, neither did anyone else. Sometimes you just gotta accept it though. Wemby is now apart of the conversation and that is not changing anytime soon.

Not a single person did not have Wemby as part of the MVP conversation before the season. Literally no one. It was one of the more predictable leaps in NBA history.

[CobraCommander]

I think we all know the MVP thread is the "jump to conclusions way too early" thread. It's a time-honored tradition (Vince McMahon voice).

giannis losing in the poll while avg 34, 16 and 7! cause SGA avg 40, Jokic avg a solid triple double...no double is 10...every double is 12 or better! and Wemby is just existing right now

Wemby stays healthy and everyone just does what they are doing and its gonna end like this...

Wemby unanimous MVP and DPOY-
SGA comes in second-
giannis comes in 3rd-
jokic gets 4th
luka 5th
Zion gets 6th

Zion is balling...well when he is playing he is balling...

[CobraCommander]

Sounds like he's trying to find a needle in a hay stack because no stats or even eye test analysis back up the narrative he wants to create that we are jumping the gun on this generational talent. Fighting a losing battle here.

I mean, we all react differently. I for sure didn't see Wemby taking over the league like this 2 weeks ago. Certainly not by game 1. And if you look back to page 1 of this thread, neither did anyone else. Sometimes you just gotta accept it though. Wemby is now apart of the conversation and that is not changing anytime soon.

this...

I didnt expect this when is saw luka trying to become a shoalin monk....I thought "this some rich French guy BS" and when I saw him with Hakeem I thought "this some fake big guy stuff".....then after game one I was like WTF happened...this guy actually went into the lab and got better...
honestly...first time I have seen a guy do this for real...everyone talks about taking the jump during the off season but they really never do...the get incrementally Better...this is a demonstrative improvement over last year...its not the same guy...

he will dunk on you OR give you a spin move but he will def get you in the post and make you pay on both ends....and he can lead the break...not like Jokic...but he can lead a FAST break...wtf...drop off passes after pump fakes ...givng up good shots for great shots does not describe the upgrade in shot selection and passing that he is doing...

[CobraCommander]

Sounds like he's trying to find a needle in a hay stack because no stats or even eye test analysis back up the narrative he wants to create that we are jumping the gun on this generational talent. Fighting a losing battle here.

I mean, we all react differently. I for sure didn't see Wemby taking over the league like this 2 weeks ago. Certainly not by game 1. And if you look back to page 1 of this thread, neither did anyone else. Sometimes you just gotta accept it though. Wemby is now apart of the conversation and that is not changing anytime soon.

Not a single person did not have Wemby as part of the MVP conversation before the season. Literally no one. It was one of the more predictable leaps in NBA history.

wemby was +1800 (i.e., 18-to-1) to win MVP while luka was + 300 and Jokic was +200... and currently wemby +275...

I think people thought Maybe Wemby could do it...but the money said otherwise.

btw only giannis and jokic made as big of a jump and neither of them had the hype

[Handlez]

Laughs in Jokic.

[Biff]

Victor. And the one dude I saw the other day that said Spurs aren't making the playoffs is going to look like an absolute idiot.

[DrModesty]

My top ten right now is as follows:

1 - Victor Wembanyama
2 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
3 - Tyrese Maxey
4 - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
5 - Austin Reaves
6 - Nikola Jokic
7 - Steph Curry
8 - Lauri Markkanen
9 - Luka Doncic (Lack of Games and 1-1 in them)
10 - Jalen Brunson

But of course it is highly changeable at even a night to night basis right now.