Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Archx]

Will Kidd learn anything? I'll start by saying this goes with basic logic that Flagg in AD's place could actually thrive and progress a lot faster.

Flagg stats with or without PG.

[Mr B]

Will Kidd learn anything? I'll start by saying this goes with basic logic that Flagg in AD's place could actually thrive and progress a lot faster.

Flagg stats with or without PG.

I do think that will be Coopers eventual position once his body matures but early in his career he’s probably better suited to play SF. With that said I’m still on board with Cooper manning the PG position while he’s developing.

Dirk also started his career at SF and eventually transitioned to PF.

[Mavrelous]

Will Kidd learn anything? I'll start by saying this goes with basic logic that Flagg in AD's place could actually thrive and progress a lot faster.

Flagg stats with or without PG.

This entire saga seems like sabotage by Kidd, it's jusy too obvious to anyonw watvhing.

[Archx]

Will Kidd learn anything? I'll start by saying this goes with basic logic that Flagg in AD's place could actually thrive and progress a lot faster.

Flagg stats with or without PG.

This entire saga seems like sabotage by Kidd, it's jusy too obvious to anyonw watvhing.

Yeah this team is still trying compete and it will for sure hurt his ROY campaign a lot. So, it's just weird..... If there was no AD or Kyrie and Mavs wouldn't care about the standings, then probably no one would even care what Kidd is doing with him.

But at the end of the day, we have to ask ourselves, is it really productive to keep forcing this? Specially when you see such drastic differences.

[Bob8]

Will Kidd learn anything? I'll start by saying this goes with basic logic that Flagg in AD's place could actually thrive and progress a lot faster.

Flagg stats with or without PG.

This entire saga seems like sabotage by Kidd, it's jusy too obvious to anyonw watvhing.

Yeah this team is still trying compete and it will for sure hurt his ROY campaign a lot. So, it's just weird..... If there was no AD or Kyrie and Mavs wouldn't care about the standings, then probably no one would even care what Kidd is doing with him.

But at the end of the day, we have to ask ourselves, is it really productive to keep forcing this? Specially when you see such drastic differences.

There's another possibility, Nico wants Flagg to play Pg, to show how Mavs don't need Luka.

[Archx]

This entire saga seems like sabotage by Kidd, it's jusy too obvious to anyonw watvhing.

Yeah this team is still trying compete and it will for sure hurt his ROY campaign a lot. So, it's just weird..... If there was no AD or Kyrie and Mavs wouldn't care about the standings, then probably no one would even care what Kidd is doing with him.

But at the end of the day, we have to ask ourselves, is it really productive to keep forcing this? Specially when you see such drastic differences.

There's another possibility, Nico wants Flagg to play Pg, to show how Mavs don't need Luka.

I wouldn't go that far. Not everything is connected to him. I think they're actually trying to develop his playmaking ability but in the wrong way.

[Bob8]

Yeah this team is still trying compete and it will for sure hurt his ROY campaign a lot. So, it's just weird..... If there was no AD or Kyrie and Mavs wouldn't care about the standings, then probably no one would even care what Kidd is doing with him.

But at the end of the day, we have to ask ourselves, is it really productive to keep forcing this? Specially when you see such drastic differences.

There's another possibility, Nico wants Flagg to play Pg, to show how Mavs don't need Luka.

I wouldn't go that far. Not everything is connected to him. I think they're actually trying to develop his playmaking ability but in the wrong way.

That development part is funny because he could do whatever he does now with Dlo or BWill besides him too. It looks like someone wants that he officially is being Pg. It's great story for Media for sure.

[HMFFL]

IMO, Ja is definitely going to be moved. They have JJJ as their cornerstone. It'd be interesting how they value AD, who's a perfect C for JJJ. If MEM isn't interested, I think MIA would be a good 3rd team, with AD going to MIA, Ja to DAL, and Herro + picks/pieces to MEM.

Memphis to me is trending a rebuilding soon if they don't figure something out. The next two off-seasons are key for them.

[Super Cooper]

Max Christie needs to replace DLo in field goal attempts. Give Christie the 11.3 DLo averages. Cooper will benefit from a more stable guard.

Mavs "shooters" -- {fga}, {3pta} ({fg%}, {3pt%}) {team efg% on/off net}

AD -- 15.0, 2.2 (52.0%, 27.3%) -2.4%
PJ -- 12.9, 4.1 (46.7%, 27.6%) -0.8%
Coop -- 12.1, 3.7 (38.8%, 29.3%) -2.7%
DLo -- 11.3, 5.3 (36.7%, 29.3%) +7.2%
Klay -- 9.4, 6.0 (31.8%, 29.3%) -14.4%
Max -- 7.9, 5.4 (54.5%, 50.0%) +12.1%
Naji -- 5.3, 1.6 (40.5%, 18.2%) +0.7%
BWill -- 5.2, 1.4 (50.0%, 14.3%)
Hardy -- 4.0, 2.3 (37.5%, 42.9%)
(BWIll and Hardy didn't meet minutes requirements for {team efg% on/off net}

Observations...
1. Klay is absolutely killing us. There's not a close second.
2. Klay needs to be replaced by DLo in the starting lineup.
3. Max needs many more attempts.
4. It seems like Kidd has given PJ the green light to shoot 3s at will. This needs to be tempered down. PJ needs to floor the ball more and/or pass out of the 3.
5. Naji needs more minutes. Hopefully from Klay.

[41Dirk41]

2 guys over 30% from 3s (and one of them is Hardy). That's not possible in this NBA.

[Super Cooper]

2 guys over 30% from 3s (and one of them is Hardy). That's not possible in this NBA.

Agreed, obviously. It does show that Hardy needs more burn. Ditto on Nembhard. Max needs a MUCH greater role. BWill and DLo are killing us from 3pt.

[Mavrelous]

DLo and Christie should be the backcourt, BWill and Hardy back them up until Kyrie and Exum are back.
Klay and Gafford should be shopped hard, AD should play 90% at the 5, Gafford no longer needed, Klay is washed and frustrated with hos role, send him somewhere else.
Copper and PJ should be the forward with Naji and Martin backing them up.

[Archx]

DLo and Christie should be the backcourt, BWill and Hardy back them up until Kyrie and Exum are back.
Klay and Gafford should be shopped hard, AD should play 90% at the 5, Gafford no longer needed, Klay is washed and frustrated with hos role, send him somewhere else.
Copper and PJ should be the forward with Naji and Martin backing them up.

This is what a common logic dictates and a lot of what you wrote i expected Nico to do in the off season already. Gafford should have been sold at a high price long ago and Christie has taken a step forward.

would like AD to start at 5, Coop 4 and PJ at 3. Because i do believe PJ is badly needed with the 1st unit. Lively, Klay and Coop combination in the starting 5 just doesn't work.

[Bob8]

DLo and Christie should be the backcourt, BWill and Hardy back them up until Kyrie and Exum are back.
Klay and Gafford should be shopped hard, AD should play 90% at the 5, Gafford no longer needed, Klay is washed and frustrated with hos role, send him somewhere else.
Copper and PJ should be the forward with Naji and Martin backing them up.

Gafford should be traded, but question is how many games will AD and Lively play?

[Super Cooper]

DLo and Christie should be the backcourt, BWill and Hardy back them up until Kyrie and Exum are back.
Klay and Gafford should be shopped hard, AD should play 90% at the 5, Gafford no longer needed, Klay is washed and frustrated with hos role, send him somewhere else.
Copper and PJ should be the forward with Naji and Martin backing them up.

This is what a common logic dictates and a lot of what you wrote i expected Nico to do in the off season already. Gafford should have been sold at a high price long ago and Christie has taken a step forward.

would like AD to start at 5, Coop 4 and PJ at 3. Because i do believe PJ is badly needed with the 1st unit. Lively, Klay and Coop combination in the starting 5 just doesn't work.

I agree with both of y'all.

Starting lineup should be DLo, Max, Coop, PJ, and AD. I would like, however, to see AD at PF and Gaff at C. If this is disastrous, then Gaff and Dlive aren't needed. I pause on Gaff bc of AD's and DLive's injury history.

For the love of gawd, can we please get Klay out of the starting lineup (at least)? I wonder if GSW would take him back? I don't care what we get for him, addition by subtraction.

Martin is an anvil. Pairing him with DLive should yield something.

[Mr B]

DLo and Christie should be the backcourt, BWill and Hardy back them up until Kyrie and Exum are back.
Klay and Gafford should be shopped hard, AD should play 90% at the 5, Gafford no longer needed, Klay is washed and frustrated with hos role, send him somewhere else.
Copper and PJ should be the forward with Naji and Martin backing them up.

Gafford should be traded, but question is how many games will AD and Lively play?

That’s why they might want to keep Gafford. With Lively’s injuries it might not be a bad idea to start gauging team’s interest in him around the league.

[Mavrelous]

Klay is negative value coupled with Gafford together he mau fetch something marginally positive.

[41Dirk41]

We need Jrue, if he is available without FRP i'm all in with him.

[Super Cooper]

We need Jrue, if he is available without FRP i'm all in with him.

I think I originally poo-poo'd your idea of Jrue before. I was wrong. He is positively perfect for the Mavs now, and while you'd have two shorter guards when Kyrie returns, Jrue is still a top-10 wing defender.

What I saw as a drawback in his being a combo guard, this is ideal with Kyrie. Jrue can be a assist heavy guard; it's just that he hasn't been asked to recently before POR.

The problem is he's balling right now and is basically a player/coach for POR youngsters. I think POR would ask a pretty price. But, willing to part with a FRP, perhaps it could get done.

[Super Cooper]

Klay is negative value coupled with Gafford together he mau fetch something marginally positive.

...or DLive. Klay + DLive = $21.9m

To move Martin or Klay, there definitely has to be a valuable chip connected with them.