Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[41Dirk41]

We need Jrue, if he is available without FRP i'm all in with him.

I think I originally poo-poo'd your idea of Jrue before. I was wrong. He is positively perfect for the Mavs now, and while you'd have two shorter guards when Kyrie returns, Jrue is still a top-10 wing defender.

What I saw as a drawback in his being a combo guard, this is ideal with Kyrie. Jrue can be a assist heavy guard; it's just that he hasn't been asked to recently before POR.

The problem is he's balling right now and is basically a player/coach for POR youngsters. I think POR would ask a pretty price. But, willing to part with a FRP, perhaps it could get done.

Boston traded Jrue for peanuts. Now it's obviously too late and Portland wants picks.

[Super Cooper]

Thoughts?

To Dallas
Jrue + Pieces

To Portland
Ja + Pieces

To Memphis
DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)

[Mr B]

We need Jrue, if he is available without FRP i'm all in with him.

The word is that he’s washed. It would have to be a pretty cheap trade. I wouldn’t want to invest heavily in Jrue at this point in his career.

[Mr B]

We need Jrue, if he is available without FRP i'm all in with him.

I think I originally poo-poo'd your idea of Jrue before. I was wrong. He is positively perfect for the Mavs now, and while you'd have two shorter guards when Kyrie returns, Jrue is still a top-10 wing defender.

What I saw as a drawback in his being a combo guard, this is ideal with Kyrie. Jrue can be a assist heavy guard; it's just that he hasn't been asked to recently before POR.

The problem is he's balling right now and is basically a player/coach for POR youngsters. I think POR would ask a pretty price. But, willing to part with a FRP, perhaps it could get done.

Is Jrue playing well? Last I heard he looked pretty terrible. I haven’t actually watched him myself this year though.

[41Dirk41]

We need Jrue, if he is available without FRP i'm all in with him.

The word is that he’s washed. It would have to be a pretty cheap trade. I wouldn’t want to invest heavily in Jrue at this point in his career.

You still are one of the worst poster here, Portland has defeat OKC tonight. Lol.

Jrue average 17-5-8.

[Mr B]

We need Jrue, if he is available without FRP i'm all in with him.

The word is that he’s washed. It would have to be a pretty cheap trade. I wouldn’t want to invest heavily in Jrue at this point in his career.

You still are one of the worst poster here, Portland has defeat OKC tonight. Lol.

Jrue average 17-5-8.

So you’re willing for the Mavs to invest heavily in Jrue?

[41Dirk41]

The word is that he’s washed. It would have to be a pretty cheap trade. I wouldn’t want to invest heavily in Jrue at this point in his career.

You still are one of the worst poster here, Portland has defeat OKC tonight. Lol.

Jrue average 17-5-8.

So you’re willing for the Mavs to invest heavily in Jrue?

No, i wanted to tank just after Luka trade because it's was clear a self-destruction move.
Like i said multiple times this team is done for next 3/4 years at high level. No matter what moves we made.

Are you finally understand? Or are you still excited about big lineups, defense and other Bulls*hit?

But Kidd&Harrison can't tank because they have to save their life so Holiday is the perfect stop gap solution now to try to win some games to fool some dreamer/miserable like you.

[MassimoPayne]

If they didn't resign Kidd recently, he would've been already gone at that point

[41Dirk41]

If they didn't resign Kidd recently, he would've been already gone at that point

I think that resign was not randomly... Kidd knew this roster is really bad.

[Mr B]

You still are one of the worst poster here, Portland has defeat OKC tonight. Lol.

Jrue average 17-5-8.

So you’re willing for the Mavs to invest heavily in Jrue?

No, i wanted to tank just after Luka trade because it's was clear a self-destruction move.
Like i said multiple times this team is done for next 3/4 years at high level. No matter what moves we made.

Are you finally understand? Or are you still excited about big lineups, defense and other Bulls*hit?

But Kidd&Harrison can't tank because they have to save their life so Holiday is the perfect stop gap solution now to try to win some games to fool some dreamer/miserable like you.

Why are you so angry? All I did was ask a question.

And yea, I wanted to see the big lineup and I have to say I’ve seen enough. I’ve been saying all along though that they need a true PG. I’m also starting to lean towards maybe they should consider moving Lively. Going back to last year he’s been injured about as much as Street Clothes. Maybe they should stick with Gafford and move Lively.

And as much as I like the idea of AD playing PF it’s clear, he’s a center. I know you have been saying that for a while but I personally wanted to see the big lineup with him at PF. It’s clear it doesn’t work without a legit PG on the floor.

Klay has no business being on this team (or any team for that matter). He’s not hitting his shot and he doesn’t hustle on defense. They finally benched him. Maybe they will do the same to AD soon or at least make him play Center.

You seem to think I have something personal against you but I don’t. I just wanted you guys to talk actual basketball and about this current team. You guys have been doing that and I’ve been enjoying the conversations lately. You really do have a lot of good things to say about the team and good ideas. I’m glad we can actually listen to them now.

With that said, this horrible start may be a blessing in disguise. The more they lose and the worse they look the more likely “you know who” will be shown the door. Just saying.

[Mavrelous]

Thoughts?

To Dallas
Jrue + Pieces

To Portland
Ja + Pieces

To Memphis
DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)

Portland are very wary of problematic types since the JailBlazers days, they targeted Jrue specifically because he's one of the most respected players in the league, he's turned their franchise around, I don't think they're giving up on him.

[Super Cooper]

So you’re willing for the Mavs to invest heavily in Jrue?

No, i wanted to tank just after Luka trade because it's was clear a self-destruction move.
Like i said multiple times this team is done for next 3/4 years at high level. No matter what moves we made.

Are you finally understand? Or are you still excited about big lineups, defense and other Bulls*hit?

But Kidd&Harrison can't tank because they have to save their life so Holiday is the perfect stop gap solution now to try to win some games to fool some dreamer/miserable like you.

Why are you so angry? All I did was ask a question.

And yea, I wanted to see the big lineup and I have to say I’ve seen enough. I’ve been saying all along though that they need a true PG. I’m also starting to lean towards maybe they should consider moving Lively. Going back to last year he’s been injured about as much as Street Clothes. Maybe they should stick with Gafford and move Lively.

And as much as I like the idea of AD playing PF it’s clear, he’s a center. I know you have been saying that for a while but I personally wanted to see the big lineup with him at PF. It’s clear it doesn’t work without a legit PG on the floor.

Klay has no business being on this team (or any team for that matter). He’s not hitting his shot and he doesn’t hustle on defense. They finally benched him. Maybe they will do the same to AD soon or at least make him play Center.

You seem to think I have something personal against you but I don’t. I just wanted you guys to talk actual basketball and about this current team. You guys have been doing that and I’ve been enjoying the conversations lately. You really do have a lot of good things to say about the team and good ideas. I’m glad we can actually listen to them now.

With that said, this horrible start may be a blessing in disguise. The more they lose and the worse they look the more likely “you know who” will be shown the door. Just saying.

Agreed. I've been all about moving DLive. I hope he still has value.

If there's still hope in winning now in the Kyrie/AD timeline, Jrue would be an ideal target. He still defends at an elite level (I believe was voted the best perimeter defender by the players 2 years ago), and can be a great distributor.

Klay is cooked. He needs to be dumped.

We still haven't seen AD/Gaff for any period of time. I wouldn't want to give up on AD at PF until it's proven a disaster. Teams like CLE and MIN have made that work.

[Bob8]

Thoughts?

To Dallas
Jrue + Pieces

To Portland
Ja + Pieces

To Memphis
DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)

Portland are very wary of problematic types since the JailBlazers days, they targeted Jrue specifically because he's one of the most respected players in the league, he's turned their franchise around, I don't think they're giving up on him.

The first problem is salary discrepancy between Dlive vs. JA and Jrue+Thybulle. Those pieces from Mavs would need to be worth around 35 mio.

[Mavrelous]

Thoughts?

To Dallas
Jrue + Pieces

To Portland
Ja + Pieces

To Memphis
DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)

Portland are very wary of problematic types since the JailBlazers days, they targeted Jrue specifically because he's one of the most respected players in the league, he's turned their franchise around, I don't think they're giving up on him.

The first problem is salary discrepancy between Dlive vs. JA and Jrue+Thybulle. Those pieces from Mavs would need to be worth around 35 mio.

Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.

[Super Cooper]

Portland are very wary of problematic types since the JailBlazers days, they targeted Jrue specifically because he's one of the most respected players in the league, he's turned their franchise around, I don't think they're giving up on him.

The first problem is salary discrepancy between Dlive vs. JA and Jrue+Thybulle. Those pieces from Mavs would need to be worth around 35 mio.

Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.

You are correct. There are multiple scenarios with "pieces" that provide a successful 3-way under the CBA. I just don't want to list those given this board's propensity to argue the smallest of details.

[Bob8]

Portland are very wary of problematic types since the JailBlazers days, they targeted Jrue specifically because he's one of the most respected players in the league, he's turned their franchise around, I don't think they're giving up on him.

The first problem is salary discrepancy between Dlive vs. JA and Jrue+Thybulle. Those pieces from Mavs would need to be worth around 35 mio.

Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.

Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.

[Bob8]

The first problem is salary discrepancy between Dlive vs. JA and Jrue+Thybulle. Those pieces from would need to be worth around 35 mio.

Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.

You are correct. There are multiple scenarios with "pieces" that provide a successful 3-way under the CBA. I just don't want to list those given this board's propensity to argue the smallest of details.

If you convince Grizzlies to take DLo, Martin, Hardy and Powell, just make a deal and run. I'm 100% for the deal.

[Super Cooper]

The first problem is salary discrepancy between Dlive vs. JA and Jrue+Thybulle. Those pieces from Mavs would need to be worth around 35 mio.

Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.

Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.

Precisely why I'm not divulging. Research yourself.

[Mavrelous]

The first problem is salary discrepancy between Dlive vs. JA and Jrue+Thybulle. Those pieces from Mavs would need to be worth around 35 mio.

Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.

Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.

If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down

[Super Cooper]

Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.

You are correct. There are multiple scenarios with "pieces" that provide a successful 3-way under the CBA. I just don't want to list those given this board's propensity to argue the smallest of details.

If you convince Grizzlies to take DLo, Martin, Hardy and Powell, just make a deal and run. I'm 100% for the deal.

To Memphis
DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)

As usual, you create a straw man. Why do you do this? Do you find it a fruitful way to spend time/energy?