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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#581 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:14 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.


You are correct. There are multiple scenarios with "pieces" that provide a successful 3-way under the CBA. I just don't want to list those given this board's propensity to argue the smallest of details.


If you convince Grizzlies to take DLo, Martin, Hardy and Powell, just make a deal and run. I'm 100% for the deal. :D

Yea I would agree with that. At this point having a “deep bench” shouldn’t really matter. They need a PG. having a “deep bench” and no PG is getting us nowhere fast.
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Post#582 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:15 pm

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No, i wanted to tank just after Luka trade because it's was clear a self-destruction move.
Like i said multiple times this team is done for next 3/4 years at high level. No matter what moves we made.

Are you finally understand? Or are you still excited about big lineups, defense and other Bulls*hit?

But Kidd&Harrison can't tank because they have to save their life so Holiday is the perfect stop gap solution now to try to win some games to fool some dreamer/miserable like you.

Why are you so angry? All I did was ask a question.

And yea, I wanted to see the big lineup and I have to say I’ve seen enough. I’ve been saying all along though that they need a true PG. I’m also starting to lean towards maybe they should consider moving Lively. Going back to last year he’s been injured about as much as Street Clothes. Maybe they should stick with Gafford and move Lively.

And as much as I like the idea of AD playing PF it’s clear, he’s a center. I know you have been saying that for a while but I personally wanted to see the big lineup with him at PF. It’s clear it doesn’t work without a legit PG on the floor.

Klay has no business being on this team (or any team for that matter). He’s not hitting his shot and he doesn’t hustle on defense. They finally benched him. Maybe they will do the same to AD soon or at least make him play Center.

You seem to think I have something personal against you but I don’t. I just wanted you guys to talk actual basketball and about this current team. You guys have been doing that and I’ve been enjoying the conversations lately. You really do have a lot of good things to say about the team and good ideas. I’m glad we can actually listen to them now.

With that said, this horrible start may be a blessing in disguise. The more they lose and the worse they look the more likely “you know who” will be shown the door. Just saying.


Agreed. I've been all about moving DLive. I hope he still has value.

If there's still hope in winning now in the Kyrie/AD timeline, Jrue would be an ideal target. He still defends at an elite level (I believe was voted the best perimeter defender by the players 2 years ago), and can be a great distributor.

Klay is cooked. He needs to be dumped.

We still haven't seen AD/Gaff for any period of time. I wouldn't want to give up on AD at PF until it's proven a disaster. Teams like CLE and MIN have made that work.


Cleveland and Minny had(have) Mobley&Towns at the 4 who creates space.

Street clothes is a lazy bad shooter. He can't work. We don't need any period of time.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#583 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:15 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.


Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.

If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down

Gafford/Klay/Martin’s contract would also be very moveable for Memphis.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#584 » by Bob8 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:16 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.


Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.


Precisely why I'm not divulging. Research yourself.


There is nothing to research, Mavs are over 1st apron, so salary should be similar. If we don't trade AD and Kyrie, because GM is not trading them and good pieces as Flagg, Maxi, PJ, second C, you're left just with Naji and scrubs. Good luck to convincing Grizzlies to get Lively 1st and scrubs, some on multi year contract, for JA.
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Post#585 » by Bob8 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:20 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
You are correct. There are multiple scenarios with "pieces" that provide a successful 3-way under the CBA. I just don't want to list those given this board's propensity to argue the smallest of details.


If you convince Grizzlies to take DLo, Martin, Hardy and Powell, just make a deal and run. I'm 100% for the deal. :D


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DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)


As usual, you create a straw man. Why do you do this? Do you find it a fruitful way to spend time/energy?


Mavs have to match 40+ mio. Someone will need to take those scrubs.

Why are you angry? It's discussion, I'm 99% sure your trade won't happen, I'm just explaining why it won't. It's just my opinion. This forum is meant for discussions.
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Post#586 » by Bob8 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:23 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.


Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.

If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down


Because we're supposedly trading Lively already, no chance we're trading Gafford too. I agree trading Gafford is much more realistic than Lively.

I guess you will give 2 Frp for JA not Jrue, which was a proposed trade?
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Post#587 » by Super Cooper » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:32 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Mavs have plethora of salary to match, it won't be a problem.


Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.

If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down


Absolutely. There are a multitude of options out there that are within the trade I proposed. It makes complete sense for all 3 franchises, but admittedly only makes sense for DAL if we're all in on Kyrie/AD (which I'd say the FO has risked their jobs on).
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Post#588 » by Mavrelous » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:36 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
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Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.

If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down


Absolutely. There are a multitude of options out there that are within the trade I proposed. It makes complete sense for all 3 franchises, but admittedly only makes sense for DAL if we're all in on Kyrie/AD (which I'd say the FO has risked their jobs on).

I don't thinks it's worth it to try to squeeze something out of this, but if the Casino people won't domthe obvious, I'd roll the dice on Ja.
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Post#589 » by Super Cooper » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:42 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
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Mavrelous wrote:If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down


Absolutely. There are a multitude of options out there that are within the trade I proposed. It makes complete sense for all 3 franchises, but admittedly only makes sense for DAL if we're all in on Kyrie/AD (which I'd say the FO has risked their jobs on).

I don't thinks it's worth it to try to squeeze something out of this, but if the Casino people won't domthe obvious, I'd roll the dice on Ja.


My problem with Ja isn't the attitude/off-court BS; it's that he's an awful fit with Kyrie. Otherwise, I'd be all in. POR has Sharpe which is an excellent fit.

Again, this is a move to win now, on the AD/Kyrie timeline. Otherwise, I wouldn't touch Jrue.
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Post#590 » by Super Cooper » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:44 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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Bob8 wrote:
Which? You won't trade both C, so Gafford is off. PJ I guess should stay. Maxi too. I doubt Grizzlies want Klay for JA. So you will basically need to include Naji + all scrubs, I kinda doubt anyone is taking that.

If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down


Because we're supposedly trading Lively already, no chance we're trading Gafford too. I agree trading Gafford is much more realistic than Lively.

I guess you will give 2 Frp for JA not Jrue, which was a proposed trade?


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DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)


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Post#591 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:47 pm

Anyway fire Harrison will relieve a lot of pressure from players, coach and fans.

It's the right solution.
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Post#592 » by Super Cooper » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:48 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Anyway fire Harrison will relieve a lot of pressure from players, coach and fans.

It's the right solution.


Positively no one disagrees.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#593 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:48 pm

Mavs can't trade this year FRP if the lottery is rigged again... Ask to Silver.
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Post#594 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:52 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down


Absolutely. There are a multitude of options out there that are within the trade I proposed. It makes complete sense for all 3 franchises, but admittedly only makes sense for DAL if we're all in on Kyrie/AD (which I'd say the FO has risked their jobs on).

I don't thinks it's worth it to try to squeeze something out of this, but if the Casino people won't domthe obvious, I'd roll the dice on Ja.

I’m definitely not excited about pursuing Ja. Personally I think he’s a train wreck waiting to happen. He does appear to be the best realistically available option though
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Post#595 » by Super Cooper » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:55 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Mavs can't trade this year FRP if the lottery is rigged again... Ask to Silver.


If you're referring to the trade proposal, I believe the '30 FRP is available. By moving Ja for 3 FRPs, they'd have an insane number of picks after the Bane trade to ORL. They could be OKC East in 5 years.
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Post#596 » by Bob8 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 3:56 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:If they are trading Ja, they are rebuilding, they won't mind taking Klay.
Gafford/Klay/Martin + 2 1sts is a great offer, I doubt tjey turn it down


Because we're supposedly trading Lively already, no chance we're trading Gafford too. I agree trading Gafford is much more realistic than Lively.

I guess you will give 2 Frp for JA not Jrue, which was a proposed trade?


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DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)


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I was replying to Marvellous, who had Gafford and 2 FRPs in a trade. ;)

You might calm down a little.
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Post#597 » by Super Cooper » Thu Nov 6, 2025 4:01 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Because we're supposedly trading Lively already, no chance we're trading Gafford too. I agree trading Gafford is much more realistic than Lively.

I guess you will give 2 Frp for JA not Jrue, which was a proposed trade?


To Memphis
DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)


You should never again question another's literacy.


I was replying to Marvellous, who had Gafford and 2 FRPs in a trade? ;)

You might calm down a little.


Have you ever contributed to a constructive post on this board?

The next time will be the first time.

Dude, you do nothing but deconstruct, which isn't very difficult with your use of straw man arguments.
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Post#598 » by Bob8 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 4:03 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
To Memphis
DLive, Thybulle, + Pieces + 2ea FRP (POR) + 1ea FRP (DAL)


You should never again question another's literacy.


I was replying to Marvellous, who had Gafford and 2 FRPs in a trade? ;)

You might calm down a little.


Have you ever contributed to a constructive post on this board?

The next time will be the first time.

Dude, you do nothing but deconstruct, which isn't very difficult with your use of straw man arguments.


What are you talking about? You're not the only one in discussion. I replied Marvrelous, who had totally different proposal for JA not Jrue, which might even have a little sense for both teams.
Your proposal might have sense only for Portland, if they like JA.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#599 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 6, 2025 4:22 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Mavs can't trade this year FRP if the lottery is rigged again... Ask to Silver.

NBA teams cannot trade FRP’s in back to back seasons. The Mavs kept their pick for the 2025 draft so they can in fact trade their 2026 pick.
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Post#600 » by Mavrelous » Thu Nov 6, 2025 4:23 pm

Mavs have Lakers 29 1st and Mavs 31 1st tradable.
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