Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[41Dirk41]

Coby White is not a playmaker, he is a combo guard who plays at the point. Like a lot of players.
We need a floor general.

And Chicago doesn't trade him before see how him and Giddey fit, and for sure not for Gafford, Lively or Naji.

Stop dreaming.

I disagree that we need a traditional PG. No way the Mavs go for a ball dominant PG. You state it as fact, then say people are dreaming lol. Can you please learn to disagree without insulting?

Coby and the pedo played 63 regular season games together. Do you research?

So what's your solution? We certainly know what you deconstruct lol.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Funny guy. Don't give up.

[Super Cooper]

If I understand correctly, Mavs tried to trade Gafford but there wasn't any interesting offers. Problem with non shooting Cs is, you can have one for pretty cheap. They might be older and a little worse, but they are still serviceable. On the other hand there aren't many scoring Pgs. That's why players like Trae, Fox or Ja are on the max contracts and AR will get 35+ too.

Where did you read that? Everything I've heard is that Gaff is well sought after, especially LAL.

I'm not saying he's AR level of sought after, but there's a reason many teams want him. IMO there's a bigger reason why the Mavs should keep him. Gafford and AD have only played 5 games together, and I think DLive also played those games. I would want to see AD at PF and Gaff at C for a solid 10 games before ruling that out. Not to mention, with AD and DLive's injury history, why would you want to move Gaff unless you you're padding DP's numbers for the HOF?

[Mr B]

Every trade proposal should be around Gafford, if we agree that AD and Kyrie won't be moved. It's far more realistic and easier to be made. Gafford and Naji for sure have some positive value. You can add Klay or Marin as bad asset, if you want to get rid off one.

For Coby White I would do that move.

The latest word on Gafford is that several teams are interested in him if the Mavs make a trade. If this is Luka pushing for them to trade for Gafford do you think they’d give up Reaves? I have a feeling he’s going to be like Brunson was here (numbers dropped off) once they get Labron back. Do you think they’d part with Reaves?

No way. AR looks like Luka's best friend there and Ayton is good enough at C. AR's value is very near to AD's.

Ayton may be good enough at center but anyone that’s watched him knows he’s not good and he’s soft. I could see them keeping Ayton but certainly not as a starter. To me that’s one of their biggest areas of need. Whether that be Gafford or someone else.

[Mr B]

Apparently Luka still wants Gafford. Is everyone sure that LA wouldn’t give up Reaves for Gafford?

Read on Twitter

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While Luka might want Gafford ,I'm pretty sure he understands Reaves is more valuable to the Lakers...Gafford is a nice starter on most teams ,but Austin is playing in another level, he's putting up all star numbers...they also seem to have a good relationship, they're joking around a lot...same with Jaxon,who now looks like he's gonna Play for Slovenia (Gafford was considered two years ago but it looks like he declined)...with Ayton playing good,Hayes being solid,there' really is no need for Lakers to overpay for Gafford

You might be true but AR’s value is likely going to go down once Labron returns. Not saying they are certainly going to trade AR but I’d say it’s more likely than not.

[Bob8]

If I understand correctly, Mavs tried to trade Gafford but there wasn't any interesting offers. Problem with non shooting Cs is, you can have one for pretty cheap. They might be older and a little worse, but they are still serviceable. On the other hand there aren't many scoring Pgs. That's why players like Trae, Fox or Ja are on the max contracts and AR will get 35+ too.

Where did you read that? Everything I've heard is that Gaff is well sought after, especially LAL.

I'm not saying he's AR level of sought after, but there's a reason many teams want him. IMO there's a bigger reason why the Mavs should keep him. Gafford and AD have only played 5 games together, and I think DLive also played those games. I would want to see AD at PF and Gaff at C for a solid 10 games before ruling that out. Not to mention, with AD and DLive's injury history, why would you want to move Gaff unless you you're padding DP's numbers for the HOF?

Because he's still here.

It was an article on Mavs Moneyball, I don't remember which, that they didn't get offers they liked for him.

[Mr B]

If I understand correctly, Mavs tried to trade Gafford but there wasn't any interesting offers. Problem with non shooting Cs is, you can have one for pretty cheap. They might be older and a little worse, but they are still serviceable. On the other hand there aren't many scoring Pgs. That's why players like Trae, Fox or Ja are on the max contracts and AR will get 35+ too.

If you believe the reports there are several teams currently interested in Gafford. You can believe it or not believe it.

[Mr B]

If I understand correctly, Mavs tried to trade Gafford but there wasn't any interesting offers. Problem with non shooting Cs is, you can have one for pretty cheap. They might be older and a little worse, but they are still serviceable. On the other hand there aren't many scoring Pgs. That's why players like Trae, Fox or Ja are on the max contracts and AR will get 35+ too.

Where did you read that? Everything I've heard is that Gaff is well sought after, especially LAL.

I'm not saying he's AR level of sought after, but there's a reason many teams want him. IMO there's a bigger reason why the Mavs should keep him. Gafford and AD have only played 5 games together, and I think DLive also played those games. I would want to see AD at PF and Gaff at C for a solid 10 games before ruling that out. Not to mention, with AD and DLive's injury history, why would you want to move Gaff unless you you're padding DP's numbers for the HOF?

Because he's still here.

It was an article on Mavs Moneyball, I don't remember which, that they didn't get offers they liked for him.

I don’t believe the Mavs were actively shopping him. If so why give him the contract? Also why is he still here if they were already shopping him?

[Bob8]

If I understand correctly, Mavs tried to trade Gafford but there wasn't any interesting offers. Problem with non shooting Cs is, you can have one for pretty cheap. They might be older and a little worse, but they are still serviceable. On the other hand there aren't many scoring Pgs. That's why players like Trae, Fox or Ja are on the max contracts and AR will get 35+ too.

If you believe the reports there are several teams currently interested in Gafford. You can believe it or not believe it.

They for sure are, but what they're offering?

[Mr B]

If I understand correctly, Mavs tried to trade Gafford but there wasn't any interesting offers. Problem with non shooting Cs is, you can have one for pretty cheap. They might be older and a little worse, but they are still serviceable. On the other hand there aren't many scoring Pgs. That's why players like Trae, Fox or Ja are on the max contracts and AR will get 35+ too.

If you believe the reports there are several teams currently interested in Gafford. You can believe it or not believe it.

They for sure are, but what they're offering?

Other than the Lakers we don’t know all of the teams. What do the Lakers have that the Mavs would be realistically interested in? Reaves is the only guy. If Luka REALLY wants Gafford I hold out for Reaves or else I’m trading him elsewhere.

[Super Cooper]

I honestly don't see anything at the moment, but there will be injuries, some teams will tank, some will be just bad. Some opportunities will arise.

If I have to choose I would say Fox could be potentially available in 3-way trade, if Harper continues to play well, but Spurs are not good enough to contend this year.

Problem is that everyone understands how desperate Nico is, they will have to overpay for whoever.

IMO GMs make deals that better their franchise. Stuff like desperation is what fans focus on, not front offices. See Pelinka a couple of years ago getting rid of Wesbrook at a time no one thought he could.

If you don't have your own solutions, do you think it'd be best to ease up on other people's? This isn't a love fest, but you tear apart the most minute of details when you have none to offer....

I gave you my honest opinion and you're basically saying, **** off from here for 10th time? I don't believe in fairytales trades, if getting a good Pg for non shooting bigs would be that easy, we would have one already. There's a reason why most trades are done around trade line.

I believe this's not your forum to decide who and how can he write or maybe we should ask Mavrelous, if it is?

Sensitive much? The human clitoris contains approximately 10,281 nerve endings. Why compete?

I did not tell you to **** off.

I dictate nothing, simply ASKING you to act like an adult.

I asked you a question (If you don't have your own solutions, do you think it'd be best to ease up on other people's?) as kindly as possible.

[Bob8]

Where did you read that? Everything I've heard is that Gaff is well sought after, especially LAL.

I'm not saying he's AR level of sought after, but there's a reason many teams want him. IMO there's a bigger reason why the Mavs should keep him. Gafford and AD have only played 5 games together, and I think DLive also played those games. I would want to see AD at PF and Gaff at C for a solid 10 games before ruling that out. Not to mention, with AD and DLive's injury history, why would you want to move Gaff unless you you're padding DP's numbers for the HOF?

Because he's still here.

It was an article on Mavs Moneyball, I don't remember which, that they didn't get offers they liked for him.

I don’t believe the Mavs were actively shopping him. If so why give him the contract? Also why is he still here if they were already shopping him?

Because they didn't get interesting offers? Lakers got Ayton for free and cheap, what do you think are they prepared to give for Gafford. For sure not AR, it might be something like Vincent and Dalton.

[Bob8]

IMO GMs make deals that better their franchise. Stuff like desperation is what fans focus on, not front offices. See Pelinka a couple of years ago getting rid of Wesbrook at a time no one thought he could.

If you don't have your own solutions, do you think it'd be best to ease up on other people's? This isn't a love fest, but you tear apart the most minute of details when you have none to offer....

I gave you my honest opinion and you're basically saying, **** off from here for 10th time? I don't believe in fairytales trades, if getting a good Pg for non shooting bigs would be that easy, we would have one already. There's a reason why most trades are done around trade line.

I believe this's not your forum to decide who and how can he write or maybe we should ask Mavrelous, if it is?

Sensitive much? The human clitoris contains approximately 10,281 nerve endings. Why compete?

I did not tell you to **** off.

I dictate nothing, simply ASKING you to act like an adult.

I asked you a question (If you don't have your own solutions, do you think it'd be best to ease up on other people's?) as kindly as possible.

I find your trade proposal laughable, but I'm still trying to politely explain to you why. 99.99% trade proposals from fans don't materialise because they're unrealistic for multiple reasons. I won't tell you we should get AR or someone similar because there's 0 chances we can get them. I believe we could eventually get player like Fox, because Spurs long term don't need him. Problem is that we're not the only team who needs Pg and non shooting bigs are not the best assets to get him. When you trade your generational Pg for a big, you're **** for multiple reasons.

You don't need to read my posts, but you for sure can't tell me what I should write.

[Super Cooper]

If you believe the reports there are several teams currently interested in Gafford. You can believe it or not believe it.

They for sure are, but what they're offering?

Other than the Lakers we don’t know all of the teams. What do the Lakers have that the Mavs would be realistically interested in? Reaves is the only guy. If Luka REALLY wants Gafford I hold out for Reaves or else I’m trading him elsewhere.

I totally agree about LAL. Luka and AR are the only players on that roster I would want, to which they're not doing. How Nico traded Luka without getting AR in the package is a certain level of ineptitude.

I just doubt the Mavs are going to trade Gaff unless it's an absurd offer or the AD/Gaff frontcourt doesn't work.

[Bob8]

If you believe the reports there are several teams currently interested in Gafford. You can believe it or not believe it.

They for sure are, but what they're offering?

Other than the Lakers we don’t know all of the teams. What do the Lakers have that the Mavs would be realistically interested in? Reaves is the only guy. If Luka REALLY wants Gafford I hold out for Reaves or else I’m trading him elsewhere.

He doesn't. Hayes is going to play for Slovenia, AR is his new best friend and he's ok with Ayton. They wanted Kessler in offseason. They would for sure have Gafford for cheap, maybe another coffee between Rob Love and the Idiot?

[Super Cooper]

I gave you my honest opinion and you're basically saying, **** off from here for 10th time? I don't believe in fairytales trades, if getting a good Pg for non shooting bigs would be that easy, we would have one already. There's a reason why most trades are done around trade line.

I believe this's not your forum to decide who and how can he write or maybe we should ask Mavrelous, if it is?

Sensitive much? The human clitoris contains approximately 10,281 nerve endings. Why compete?

I did not tell you to **** off.

I dictate nothing, simply ASKING you to act like an adult.

I asked you a question (If you don't have your own solutions, do you think it'd be best to ease up on other people's?) as kindly as possible.

I find your trade proposal laughable, but I'm still trying to politely explain to you why. 99.99% trade proposals from fans don't materialise because they're unrealistic for multiple reasons. I won't tell you we should get AR or someone similar because there's 0 chances we can get them. I believe we could eventually get player like Fox, because Spurs long term don't need him. Problem is that we're not the only team who needs Pg and non shooting bigs are not the best assets to get him. When you trade your generational Pg for a big, you're **** for multiple reasons.

You don't need to read my posts, but you for sure can't tell me what I should write.

Your name is "Hornets" for now on.

I asked you you think you should ease up when destructing other people's ideas when you are lacking your own. If you don't want to discuss trades, then don't. It's adult to keep moving when you can't provide an alternative.

Please quote me when I proposed getting AR.

Please quote me when I told you what you should write.

Please tell why this trade proposal is laughable. Better yet, propose your own.

DAL
Holiday
Murray
Rupert

POR
Ja
Martin

MEM
Thybulle
DLive
Klay
Hardy
3 FRPs (POR)
2 SRPs (DAL)
*Probably a fourth team to take Klay and Hardy for something more useful

How is trading DLive and 2 SRPs while getting rid of Klay, Martin, and Hardy for Jrue laughable?

[Mr B]

Because he's still here.

It was an article on Mavs Moneyball, I don't remember which, that they didn't get offers they liked for him.

I don’t believe the Mavs were actively shopping him. If so why give him the contract? Also why is he still here if they were already shopping him?

Because they didn't get interesting offers? Lakers got Ayton for free and cheap, what do you think are they prepared to give for Gafford. For sure not AR, it might be something like Vincent and Dalton.

Aston isn’t good though. There is a reason they got him for free because no one else wanted him. Defensively it’s not even close Gaffordnmis better than Ayton and would be a huge upgrade for them.

[Bob8]

Sensitive much? The human clitoris contains approximately 10,281 nerve endings. Why compete?

I did not tell you to **** off.

I dictate nothing, simply ASKING you to act like an adult.

I asked you a question (If you don't have your own solutions, do you think it'd be best to ease up on other people's?) as kindly as possible.

I find your trade proposal laughable, but I'm still trying to politely explain to you why. 99.99% trade proposals from fans don't materialise because they're unrealistic for multiple reasons. I won't tell you we should get AR or someone similar because there's 0 chances we can get them. I believe we could eventually get player like Fox, because Spurs long term don't need him. Problem is that we're not the only team who needs Pg and non shooting bigs are not the best assets to get him. When you trade your generational Pg for a big, you're **** for multiple reasons.

You don't need to read my posts, but you for sure can't tell me what I should write.

Your name is "Hornets" for now on.

I asked you you think you should ease up when destructing other people's ideas when you are lacking your own. If you don't want to discuss trades, then don't. It's adult to keep moving when you can't provide an alternative.

Please quote me when I proposed getting AR.

Please quote me when I told you what you should write.

Please tell why this trade proposal is laughable. Better yet, propose your own.

DAL
Holiday
Murray
Rupert

POR
Ja
Martin

MEM
Thybulle
DLive
Klay
Hardy
3 FRPs (POR)
2 SRPs (DAL)
*Probably a fourth team to take Klay and Hardy for something more useful

How is trading DLive and 2 SRPs while getting rid of Klay, Martin, and Hardy for Jrue laughable?

Portland will give Jrue, who plays perfectly for them, Thybulle, who is expiring contract, 3 FRPs and take bad Martin's contract for damage goods JA?

The most likely destination for JA are Kings.

[Bob8]

I don’t believe the Mavs were actively shopping him. If so why give him the contract? Also why is he still here if they were already shopping him?

Because they didn't get interesting offers? Lakers got Ayton for free and cheap, what do you think are they prepared to give for Gafford. For sure not AR, it might be something like Vincent and Dalton.

Aston isn’t good though. There is a reason they got him for free because no one else wanted him. Defensively it’s not even close Gaffordnmis better than Ayton and would be a huge upgrade for them.

And they would gladly take him for free like Ayton. They for sure won't give Mavs anything good. Lakers are playing long term game, there's basically nobody under the contract in 2 years. Even next year they will get rid of LeBron our friend Kleber and Vincent among others. That's 74 mio expiring.

[Super Cooper]

I find your trade proposal laughable, but I'm still trying to politely explain to you why. 99.99% trade proposals from fans don't materialise because they're unrealistic for multiple reasons. I won't tell you we should get AR or someone similar because there's 0 chances we can get them. I believe we could eventually get player like Fox, because Spurs long term don't need him. Problem is that we're not the only team who needs Pg and non shooting bigs are not the best assets to get him. When you trade your generational Pg for a big, you're **** for multiple reasons.

You don't need to read my posts, but you for sure can't tell me what I should write.

Your name is "Hornets" for now on.

I asked you you think you should ease up when destructing other people's ideas when you are lacking your own. If you don't want to discuss trades, then don't. It's adult to keep moving when you can't provide an alternative.

Please quote me when I proposed getting AR.

Please quote me when I told you what you should write.

Please tell why this trade proposal is laughable. Better yet, propose your own.

DAL
Holiday
Murray
Rupert

POR
Ja
Martin

MEM
Thybulle
DLive
Klay
Hardy
3 FRPs (POR)
2 SRPs (DAL)
*Probably a fourth team to take Klay and Hardy for something more useful

How is trading DLive and 2 SRPs while getting rid of Klay, Martin, and Hardy for Jrue laughable?

Portland will give Jrue, who plays perfectly for them, Thybulle, 3 FRPs and take bad Martin's contract for damage goods JA?

The most likely destination for JA are Kings.

Hornets, you exposed your inadequacies again. So, what will Ja fetch if I'm so laughable?

[Andri]

The only Mavs salvation is firing Nico first. I don't want to beat a dead horse.

It is not about a seasoned PG for the current roster. That won't bring Dallas to contention. Not at all. And the window with AD and Kyrie is already closing.

So first you have to get rid of the guy blocking the only playbook possible for the franchise to get back to hope.

Then, after the blessing of Flagg, you can finally trade AD, Kyrie, KT, Gafford in exchange for draft stock, and tank. Well, team will be so bad that it will be irrelevant if they try or not.

Again, that is the only playbook.