Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Bob8]

The cloned offspring of Phil and Red couldn't have made that BRK job work. I think this ai writeup is fair...

Coaching Experience and Challenges
- Limited prior coaching experience: Nash was hired by the Nets in 2020 with no previous coaching background, which raised eyebrows given the complexity of managing a star-heavy roster.
- Star-studded but volatile team: He coached Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and James Harden — three elite but high-maintenance players. From the outset, Kyrie publicly stated that the team didn’t need a head coach, undermining Nash’s authority before his first game.
- Constant roster instability: Injuries, trades, and off-court drama (like Kyrie’s vaccine saga and Harden’s trade demand) disrupted team chemistry and made consistent coaching nearly impossible.

I don't see that much diference between that Nets and this Dallas roster...Kyrie is Kyrie, AD replaces KD and them you can put Cooper+PJ+Klay as Harden
Nash is definetly not the coach for this team,nor I think he's a coach material...Just because you were a great Player doesnt mean you're gonna be a good coach,exec

I would only disagree with your assessment of BRK=DAL. Kyrie is not the same teammate he was there, not close. KD is infamous for being the thinnest skinned professional athlete of all time. There's no comparison with Harden, the most empty stat producing "star" in NBA history, not to mention the wet dumpster fire he's left every team since leaving OKC. BRK took the 3 most disgruntled stars and tried to make that work.

Given the debacle in BRK as the only experience, I can't disagree with your assessment of Nash.

Who would you want as HC and GM?

I agree with you, they aren't similar, no way Mavs make playoffs.

[Bob8]

This is very telling...

https://www.82games.com/nopdal16.html

I wish they did this to every game.

Player Physicality - Wins, Physicality - Net Wins, Playing Hard Wins, Knock Downs, Roland Hard Play Score
Washington 24, +7, 7, 4, 25
Gafford 36, +11, 12, 3, 24
Flagg 24, +3, 15, 1, 18
Williams 14, -2, 12, 1, 10
Marshall 14, +4, 6, 0, 10
Hardy 4, +0, 5, 1, 5
Martin 2, +1, 1, 0, 2
Thompson, 6, -3, 3, 0, 0
Christie, 4, -6, 4, 0, -2
Cisse 1, -4, 2, 0, -2
Powell 4, -6, 3, 0, -3
Russell 10, -10, 6, 0, -4

I have different stats,

Offensive rtg.

Klay 83
PJ 93
Flagg 96
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Powell 137

The only reason Mavs have beaten Pacers is Powell.

[Super Cooper]

Ya, I was thinking of JJ. Dude exudes passion for basketball, fanatical.

Knowing Nash, I'd put him in the Kerr/Spol category.

You're right, Dirk is awkward af. I don't see that, though, stopping him from excelling as a GM. Karl, Nellie, and Pop were also awkward af.

The SJ Sharks were a client of mine in the early and mid 90s. I was in the office almost daily. I'd have to say that a sports front office is extremely different than other corporate environments. Grillo couldn't have managed GE and Welsh couldn't have managed the Sharks.

IMO, Dirk would make a great GM. Nash would make a great HC.

Nashis worse than Kidd...he coached Kyrie,and KD,and Harden... didn't seem like they were a well coached team...they Just had enough talent

Based on his interviews Dirk has no desire to work in a FO or coach...he Just wants to enjoy Life now it seems....with a Little bit of commentary for Prime as an analyst

Nash is trash as coach. It's one of the worst option

If rebuild is the way then i want an european coach... Like Kokoskov.

And for Nostradamus, Charlotte is THE target for street clothes trade.

Our '26 pick + '27 orlando + Kon and filler are enough for me.

Bobcats, you don't get the CLT reference lol.

It is PROVEN Kokoshov is an assistant material only. His HC record is 56-138 (.2887 winning pct). If Nash is trash at 94-67 (.584 winning pct), what is Kokoshov lol?

The first time you don't go "water is wet", it's one of the dumbest suggestions ever. I now understand why you always go "water is wet". I suggest you don't take my bait and leave your thoughts nebulous.

[BliscoSantos]

The cloned offspring of Phil and Red couldn't have made that BRK job work. I think this ai writeup is fair...

Coaching Experience and Challenges
- Limited prior coaching experience: Nash was hired by the Nets in 2020 with no previous coaching background, which raised eyebrows given the complexity of managing a star-heavy roster.
- Star-studded but volatile team: He coached Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and James Harden — three elite but high-maintenance players. From the outset, Kyrie publicly stated that the team didn’t need a head coach, undermining Nash’s authority before his first game.
- Constant roster instability: Injuries, trades, and off-court drama (like Kyrie’s vaccine saga and Harden’s trade demand) disrupted team chemistry and made consistent coaching nearly impossible.

I don't see that much diference between that Nets and this Dallas roster...Kyrie is Kyrie, AD replaces KD and them you can put Cooper+PJ+Klay as Harden
Nash is definetly not the coach for this team,nor I think he's a coach material...Just because you were a great Player doesnt mean you're gonna be a good coach,exec

I would only disagree with your assessment of BRK=DAL. Kyrie is not the same teammate he was there, not close. KD is infamous for being the thinnest skinned professional athlete of all time. There's no comparison with Harden, the most empty stat producing "star" in NBA history, not to mention the wet dumpster fire he's left every team since leaving OKC. BRK took the 3 most disgruntled stars and tried to make that work.

Given the debacle in BRK as the only experience, I can't disagree with your assessment of Nash.

Who would you want as HC and GM?

I'll give you BRK isn't DAL but only because KAI got injured,which lead the team to fall into lottery ,where they were blessed with the first pick....that was just an anomaly,the biggest bail out ,that fans deserved but the FO didn't...without that no.1 pick ,with the 14,15 it whatever they would be getting if Nico's vision came true,you best believe that Nico would send that pick,a future pick and some salaries(maybe PJ,Gafford,Naji,Hardy...some combination) to PHX for KD...and the you would basicly have BRK 2.0,except youd have AD instead of Harden...would that be good? With no depth,but three stars? I'm not sure,cause KD and Kyrie are older than they were in BRK and AD is named street clothes for a reason...oh,and BRK was a KD toe on the line away from winning the tittle ...besides,if weren't for COVID ,that team actualy would be legit...the whole Kyrie drama was because of the restrictions,vacination

Like I said...i'd see if Nico or Bob Myers would have interest in GM....as for the coaching job,Malone or Thibs...or even give Vogel Kidd's Job...they need to člena the house....kind of like Nico did when he Got rid of everybody that Luka liked...but I don't think Dumonts ego could Handke admiting he made a mistake by listening to his GM

[Super Cooper]

I don't see that much diference between that Nets and this Dallas roster...Kyrie is Kyrie, AD replaces KD and them you can put Cooper+PJ+Klay as Harden
Nash is definetly not the coach for this team,nor I think he's a coach material...Just because you were a great Player doesnt mean you're gonna be a good coach,exec

I would only disagree with your assessment of BRK=DAL. Kyrie is not the same teammate he was there, not close. KD is infamous for being the thinnest skinned professional athlete of all time. There's no comparison with Harden, the most empty stat producing "star" in NBA history, not to mention the wet dumpster fire he's left every team since leaving OKC. BRK took the 3 most disgruntled stars and tried to make that work.

Given the debacle in BRK as the only experience, I can't disagree with your assessment of Nash.

Who would you want as HC and GM?

I agree with you, they aren't similar, no way Mavs make playoffs.

No one disagrees with that. I went down the rabbit hole simply to state the problems Nash inherited in BRK (starting with Kyrie stating publicly they didn't need a HC) are very different than the problems now with DAL.

If not Dirk as GM and Nash as HC, who do you suggest?

[Mr B]

It's cloudy day in Slovenia, so I decided to have some fun and I read your preseason comments. What a fun. Totally clueless.

Hornets... Stalker much? You Charlotte boys don't put ideas out there, other than **** Nico. If you don't show your hand, you have zero credibility in deconstructing mine.

I admit every time when I'm wrong, without fail. It's the only way you get better, learn. You and Bobcats may want to take a page out of my book...

Please read preseason thread. I feel like Nostradamus, you and Mr. B on the other hand...

What about me?

[Super Cooper]

I don't see that much diference between that Nets and this Dallas roster...Kyrie is Kyrie, AD replaces KD and them you can put Cooper+PJ+Klay as Harden
Nash is definetly not the coach for this team,nor I think he's a coach material...Just because you were a great Player doesnt mean you're gonna be a good coach,exec

I would only disagree with your assessment of BRK=DAL. Kyrie is not the same teammate he was there, not close. KD is infamous for being the thinnest skinned professional athlete of all time. There's no comparison with Harden, the most empty stat producing "star" in NBA history, not to mention the wet dumpster fire he's left every team since leaving OKC. BRK took the 3 most disgruntled stars and tried to make that work.

Given the debacle in BRK as the only experience, I can't disagree with your assessment of Nash.

Who would you want as HC and GM?

I'll give you BRK isn't DAL but only because KAI got injured,which lead the team to fall into lottery ,where they were blessed with the first pick....that was just an anomaly,the biggest bail out ,that fans deserved but the FO didn't...without that no.1 pick ,with the 14,15 it whatever they would be getting if Nico's vision came true,you best believe that Nico would send that pick,a future pick and some salaries(maybe PJ,Gafford,Naji,Hardy...some combination) to PHX for KD...and the you would basicly have BRK 2.0,except youd have AD instead of Harden...would that be good? With no depth,but three stars? I'm not sure,cause KD and Kyrie are older than they were in BRK and AD is named street clothes for a reason...oh,and BRK was a KD toe on the line away from winning the tittle ...besides,if weren't for COVID ,that team actualy would be legit...the whole Kyrie drama was because of the restrictions,vacination

Like I said...i'd see if Nico or Bob Myers would have interest in GM....as for the coaching job,Malone or Thibs...or even give Vogel Kidd's Job...they need to člena the house....kind of like Nico did when he Got rid of everybody that Luka liked...but I don't think Dumonts ego could Handke admiting he made a mistake by listening to his GM

Nico? Surely you meant someone else.

I'm with you on Bob Myers. IMO he's up there with Presti.

I'm also with you on Malone. He'd be a nice fit.

Thibs is where I completely disagree. It's proven he can't HC a team to a championship, wears out his welcome everywhere (worse than Kidd in that respect). No doubt he is one of the greatest defensive minds ever. I would make Thibs the highest paid assistant and use him as a DC.

Vogel should get a look, but he shat the bed in IND and was Lebron back-stabbed in LAL (which I take as a mixed result).

[Mr B]

I know them both, to be honest they're great for playing tennis with them. Neither are GM material.

I know my fellow Broncos alum Nash pretty well, but have only met Dirk socially at The Loon.

Awesome you have inside info on them. Why do you think Dirk isn't GM material? Why do you think Nash isn't HC material?

Because they are just regular guys, Dirk is awkward as it gets and Nash is a good guy. You need corporate people to run things. Not like Dumont who was married into money, but real corporate men. Lakers new owner is prime example of what you need.

I don’t know if Dirk is GM material but if they fire Nico and Kidd I DO NOT want Dumont searching for the new GM and HC by himself. That’s where I think Dirk can help. He won’t be the GM but he can help find the GM. He’s extremely knowledgeable and respected around the league. I would trust him to find the right GM.

[BliscoSantos]

I would only disagree with your assessment of BRK=DAL. Kyrie is not the same teammate he was there, not close. KD is infamous for being the thinnest skinned professional athlete of all time. There's no comparison with Harden, the most empty stat producing "star" in NBA history, not to mention the wet dumpster fire he's left every team since leaving OKC. BRK took the 3 most disgruntled stars and tried to make that work.

Given the debacle in BRK as the only experience, I can't disagree with your assessment of Nash.

Who would you want as HC and GM?

I'll give you BRK isn't DAL but only because KAI got injured,which lead the team to fall into lottery ,where they were blessed with the first pick....that was just an anomaly,the biggest bail out ,that fans deserved but the FO didn't...without that no.1 pick ,with the 14,15 it whatever they would be getting if Nico's vision came true,you best believe that Nico would send that pick,a future pick and some salaries(maybe PJ,Gafford,Naji,Hardy...some combination) to PHX for KD...and the you would basicly have BRK 2.0,except youd have AD instead of Harden...would that be good? With no depth,but three stars? I'm not sure,cause KD and Kyrie are older than they were in BRK and AD is named street clothes for a reason...oh,and BRK was a KD toe on the line away from winning the tittle ...besides,if weren't for COVID ,that team actualy would be legit...the whole Kyrie drama was because of the restrictions,vacination

Like I said...i'd see if Nico or Bob Myers would have interest in GM....as for the coaching job,Malone or Thibs...or even give Vogel Kidd's Job...they need to člena the house....kind of like Nico did when he Got rid of everybody that Luka liked...but I don't think Dumonts ego could Handke admiting he made a mistake by listening to his GM

Nico? Surely you meant someone else.

I'm with you on Bob Myers. IMO he's up there with Presti.

I'm also with you on Malone. He'd be a nice fit.

Thibs is where I completely disagree. It's proven he can't HC a team to a championship, wears out his welcome everywhere (worse than Kidd in that respect). No doubt he is one of the greatest defensive minds ever. I would make Thibs the highest paid assistant and use him as a DC.

Vogel should get a look, but he shat the bed in IND and was Lebron back-stabbed in LAL (which I take as a mixed result).

Yeah ,typo...I meant Masai or Myers

[Super Cooper]

This is very telling...

https://www.82games.com/nopdal16.html

I wish they did this to every game.

Player Physicality - Wins, Physicality - Net Wins, Playing Hard Wins, Knock Downs, Roland Hard Play Score
Washington 24, +7, 7, 4, 25
Gafford 36, +11, 12, 3, 24
Flagg 24, +3, 15, 1, 18
Williams 14, -2, 12, 1, 10
Marshall 14, +4, 6, 0, 10
Hardy 4, +0, 5, 1, 5
Martin 2, +1, 1, 0, 2
Thompson, 6, -3, 3, 0, 0
Christie, 4, -6, 4, 0, -2
Cisse 1, -4, 2, 0, -2
Powell 4, -6, 3, 0, -3
Russell 10, -10, 6, 0, -4

I have different stats,

Offensive rtg.

Klay 83
PJ 93
Flagg 96
.
.
.
Powell 137

The only reason Mavs have beaten Pacers is Powell.

I completely agree, but IND game was very much an outlier for DP. He's killing us otherwise.

I brought this up because to me, this is a great list as to which players are contributing the most and least.

The NOP game was an outlier for Klay. He's abysmal otherwise.

I'd like to see Max's numbers from other games because this does seem like an outlier to the eye test.

Clearly PJ has been our best player. Gaff, when used has been great also. Cooper has been clearly below expectations. That's probably half bad play and half unrealistic expectations. Naji has been a top contributor. He's prone to bonehead plays and has been abysmal from 3 though. DLo is who we thought he was. Ugh.

[Super Cooper]

I'll give you BRK isn't DAL but only because KAI got injured,which lead the team to fall into lottery ,where they were blessed with the first pick....that was just an anomaly,the biggest bail out ,that fans deserved but the FO didn't...without that no.1 pick ,with the 14,15 it whatever they would be getting if Nico's vision came true,you best believe that Nico would send that pick,a future pick and some salaries(maybe PJ,Gafford,Naji,Hardy...some combination) to PHX for KD...and the you would basicly have BRK 2.0,except youd have AD instead of Harden...would that be good? With no depth,but three stars? I'm not sure,cause KD and Kyrie are older than they were in BRK and AD is named street clothes for a reason...oh,and BRK was a KD toe on the line away from winning the tittle ...besides,if weren't for COVID ,that team actualy would be legit...the whole Kyrie drama was because of the restrictions,vacination

Like I said...i'd see if Nico or Bob Myers would have interest in GM....as for the coaching job,Malone or Thibs...or even give Vogel Kidd's Job...they need to člena the house....kind of like Nico did when he Got rid of everybody that Luka liked...but I don't think Dumonts ego could Handke admiting he made a mistake by listening to his GM

Nico? Surely you meant someone else.

I'm with you on Bob Myers. IMO he's up there with Presti.

I'm also with you on Malone. He'd be a nice fit.

Thibs is where I completely disagree. It's proven he can't HC a team to a championship, wears out his welcome everywhere (worse than Kidd in that respect). No doubt he is one of the greatest defensive minds ever. I would make Thibs the highest paid assistant and use him as a DC.

Vogel should get a look, but he shat the bed in IND and was Lebron back-stabbed in LAL (which I take as a mixed result).

Yeah ,typo...I meant Masai or Myers

Gotcha. Masai was the architect of a roster that was a superstar away from a championship and took advantage of that opportunity fully. I just can't get pass the horrendous job Masai did after losing Leonard.

[Super Cooper]

Hornets... Stalker much? You Charlotte boys don't put ideas out there, other than **** Nico. If you don't show your hand, you have zero credibility in deconstructing mine.

I admit every time when I'm wrong, without fail. It's the only way you get better, learn. You and Bobcats may want to take a page out of my book...

Please read preseason thread. I feel like Nostradamus, you and Mr. B on the other hand...

What about me?

Bobcats is claiming that because you and I went out on a limb and gave our detailed opinion, compared to his "water is wet" assertion, we are idiots.

Then when pressed for his detailed solution currently, he suggested a HC who's record is the equivalent to a 23 game winning season lol. Literally the worst possible candidate imaginable. That when telling me Nash is trash as a HC lol. Bobcats has learned it's much easier to deconstruct than construct.

[41Dirk41]

Please read preseason thread. I feel like Nostradamus, you and Mr. B on the other hand...

What about me?

Bobcats is claiming that because you and I went out on a limb and gave our detailed opinion, compared to his "water is wet" assertion, we are idiots.

Then when pressed for his detailed solution currently, he suggested a HC who's record is the equivalent to a 23 game winning season lol. Literally the worst possible candidate imaginable. That when telling me Nash is trash as a HC lol. Bobcats has learned it's much easier to deconstruct than construct.

Genius, it was Bob8 post... can't you even read? Ouch.

[41Dirk41]

This is a very bad season for the Mavs but Super Cooper is the worst thing that could happen to this forum... but maybe we deserved it.

Luckily like some past trolls he will pass away (from the forum) soon. It's just about patience.

[Mr B]

Please read preseason thread. I feel like Nostradamus, you and Mr. B on the other hand...

What about me?

Bobcats is claiming that because you and I went out on a limb and gave our detailed opinion, compared to his "water is wet" assertion, we are idiots.

Then when pressed for his detailed solution currently, he suggested a HC who's record is the equivalent to a 23 game winning season lol. Literally the worst possible candidate imaginable. That when telling me Nash is trash as a HC lol. Bobcats has learned it's much easier to deconstruct than construct.

I think Nash will get another chance at some point. I don’t totally blame him for what happened in Brooklyn. Once Kyrie felt disrespected and lied to by Joseph Tsai he torpedoed that entire team. Nash was the HC so he took the brunt of it. It wouldn’t have mattered if Nash was good or not.

[Super Cooper]

What about me?

Bobcats is claiming that because you and I went out on a limb and gave our detailed opinion, compared to his "water is wet" assertion, we are idiots.

Then when pressed for his detailed solution currently, he suggested a HC who's record is the equivalent to a 23 game winning season lol. Literally the worst possible candidate imaginable. That when telling me Nash is trash as a HC lol. Bobcats has learned it's much easier to deconstruct than construct.

Genius, it was Bob8 post... can't you even read? Ouch.

Again, put up or STFP. Who are your picks for GM and HC?

[41Dirk41]

I would only disagree with your assessment of BRK=DAL. Kyrie is not the same teammate he was there, not close. KD is infamous for being the thinnest skinned professional athlete of all time. There's no comparison with Harden, the most empty stat producing "star" in NBA history, not to mention the wet dumpster fire he's left every team since leaving OKC. BRK took the 3 most disgruntled stars and tried to make that work.

Given the debacle in BRK as the only experience, I can't disagree with your assessment of Nash.

Who would you want as HC and GM?

I'll give you BRK isn't DAL but only because KAI got injured,which lead the team to fall into lottery ,where they were blessed with the first pick....that was just an anomaly,the biggest bail out ,that fans deserved but the FO didn't...without that no.1 pick ,with the 14,15 it whatever they would be getting if Nico's vision came true,you best believe that Nico would send that pick,a future pick and some salaries(maybe PJ,Gafford,Naji,Hardy...some combination) to PHX for KD...and the you would basicly have BRK 2.0,except youd have AD instead of Harden...would that be good? With no depth,but three stars? I'm not sure,cause KD and Kyrie are older than they were in BRK and AD is named street clothes for a reason...oh,and BRK was a KD toe on the line away from winning the tittle ...besides,if weren't for COVID ,that team actualy would be legit...the whole Kyrie drama was because of the restrictions,vacination

Like I said...i'd see if Nico or Bob Myers would have interest in GM....as for the coaching job,Malone or Thibs...or even give Vogel Kidd's Job...they need to člena the house....kind of like Nico did when he Got rid of everybody that Luka liked...but I don't think Dumonts ego could Handke admiting he made a mistake by listening to his GM

Nico? Surely you meant someone else.

I'm with you on Bob Myers. IMO he's up there with Presti.

I'm also with you on Malone. He'd be a nice fit.

Thibs is where I completely disagree. It's proven he can't HC a team to a championship, wears out his welcome everywhere (worse than Kidd in that respect). No doubt he is one of the greatest defensive minds ever. I would make Thibs the highest paid assistant and use him as a DC.

Vogel should get a look, but he shat the bed in IND and was Lebron back-stabbed in LAL (which I take as a mixed result).

Kokoskov won a gold metal with the Slovenia NT, he is a brillant offensive coach.
Your basketball knowledge is very bad, Nash coached a real contender and he failed. No excuses.

He is another Jason Kidd, ex great player with no coach skills. A player coach. No more.

Perfect for your basketball level of course, so I'm not surprised you like them.

[41Dirk41]

Bobcats is claiming that because you and I went out on a limb and gave our detailed opinion, compared to his "water is wet" assertion, we are idiots.

Then when pressed for his detailed solution currently, he suggested a HC who's record is the equivalent to a 23 game winning season lol. Literally the worst possible candidate imaginable. That when telling me Nash is trash as a HC lol. Bobcats has learned it's much easier to deconstruct than construct.

Genius, it was Bob8 post... can't you even read? Ouch.

Again, put up or STFP. Who are your picks for GM and HC?

Lindsey and an european or college coach. What a petulant guy.

It's useless, they don't read the forum for those choices. Sorry for ruining your dreams.

[Bob8]

Hornets... Stalker much? You Charlotte boys don't put ideas out there, other than **** Nico. If you don't show your hand, you have zero credibility in deconstructing mine.

I admit every time when I'm wrong, without fail. It's the only way you get better, learn. You and Bobcats may want to take a page out of my book...

Please read preseason thread. I feel like Nostradamus, you and Mr. B on the other hand...

What about me?

Big lineup will rock.

[Bob8]

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