Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon

[TGW]

Good for you for painting the kids' rooms!

As I wrote earlier, this thread has gotten overheated. Got to me as well.

Maybe the mods should lock this thread for a year, then open it again for a while, then lock it for a while, then open it for a while when we get that 2d R1 pick?

Real question, why would you want to suppress speech in a space your attendance is completely optional?

Real answer -- I meant that as a humorous suggestion.

What colors did you paint the kids' rooms?

red, black, and white of course

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

I don't know you, of course, or what you do for a living, but the idea of anyone on this board making a judgment of the kind you are making about experienced professional businessmen like Winger & Dawkins strikes me as truly off the wall.

Well it's convenient that you cut out the part where I clearly say I really don't know at the end of the day and that's just how it kind of read to me.

And what the hell is this pompous air you have about yourself, talking about what I may or may not do for a living, as it relates to this discussion? You now tried to insinuate the Dawkins is somehow immune to any critique because of title and status. I guess by that line of reasoning, Jeffrey Epstein would be immune to any of anyone's criticism because he was a well to do business man.

Off the wall is you and doclinkin continuing to embarrass yourselves with ad hominem attacks.

It's hard work staying on a friendly basis with you But I'm going to keep working on it!

I'll stick with pompous. Not the first time you've made the same insinuation about the level of my personal success or career. Now see there's another fact. I can pull the receipts on that one when I have enough time too if you'd like.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

Real question, why would you want to suppress speech in a space your attendance is completely optional?

Real answer -- I meant that as a humorous suggestion.

What colors did you paint the kids' rooms?

red, black, and white of course

For now just white.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/282721/Mavericks-Fans-Chant-Fire-Nico-During-Loss-To-Bucks-As-Pressure-Mounts

What do these plebes know? They probably didn't even go to college, much less are an accomplished businessman like Nico Harris...

[payitforward]

Well it's convenient that you cut out the part where I clearly say I really don't know at the end of the day and that's just how it kind of read to me.

And what the hell is this pompous air you have about yourself, talking about what I may or may not do for a living, as it relates to this discussion? You now tried to insinuate the Dawkins is somehow immune to any critique because of title and status. I guess by that line of reasoning, Jeffrey Epstein would be immune to any of anyone's criticism because he was a well to do business man.

Off the wall is you and doclinkin continuing to embarrass yourselves with ad hominem attacks.

It's hard work staying on a friendly basis with you But I'm going to keep working on it!

I'll stick with pompous. Not the first time you've made the same insinuation about the level of my personal success or career. Now see there's another fact. I can pull the receipts on that one when I have enough time too if you'd like.

I meant no insult at all. I have no reason of any kind to have any "attitude" in your direction, & therefore I have none.

OTOH, if you feel that I've insulted you in any way, you have my apology. I can assure you it was not my intention to do so.

Above all, there's no benefit for either of us or for the board in this kind of conflict -- tho of course we can differ about Wizards' issues! That's why I asked what color you painted the kids' rooms.

I really have no "ad hominem" kinds of opinions about anyone on this board, neither about you nor about anyone else. Peace!

[Dat2U]

Hey, the way I look at it, Bub is helping us secure DP. That happens and we can retire this thread.

[dckingsfan]

Hey, the way I look at it, Bub is helping us secure DP. That happens and we can retire this thread.

I would have liked DP, Deni and Sarr

[Dat2U]

Hey, the way I look at it, Bub is helping us secure DP. That happens and we can retire this thread.

I would have liked DP, Deni and Sarr

That would require high level threading the needle. Dream worthy but probably too much to ask. One or a better chance at the other.

One player, playing at an all-star level, serving as a #1 option makes all the pieces here fit better. Some of these tanktastic loses like last night would be turned into wins. Last season the tank may have survived with Deni, this season i highly doubt it would be possible without having to be extremely overt about it... and to be honest, we are already kind of pushing it with some of these lineups and moves disguised as bad coaching (er, experimentation).

[dckingsfan]

Hey, the way I look at it, Bub is helping us secure DP. That happens and we can retire this thread.

I would have liked DP, Deni and Sarr

That would require high level threading the needle. Dream worthy but probably too much to ask. One or a better chance at the other.

One player, playing at an all-star level, serving as a #1 option makes all the pieces here fit better. Some of these tanktastic loses like last night would be turned into wins. Last season the tank may have survived with Deni, this season i highly doubt it would be possible without having to be extremely overt about it... and to be honest, we are already kind of pushing it with some of these lineups and moves disguised as bad coaching (er, experimentation).

Honestly, with this coach (you don't have to be overt having Keefe as the tank puppet master) and where the number #1 pick goes - me thinks we would be in a better position with Deni.

But that will be the forever question to keep this thread going

One more thing. In n-game theory where you have SA and OKC, isn't that what you need to really have a shot?

[nate33]

Hey, the way I look at it, Bub is helping us secure DP. That happens and we can retire this thread.

I would have liked DP, Deni and Sarr

And VJ!

[dckingsfan]

Hey, the way I look at it, Bub is helping us secure DP. That happens and we can retire this thread.

I would have liked DP, Deni and Sarr

And VJ!

And this Deni where he keeps breaking down his ceiling

[tontoz]

In case you guys haven't noticed VJ has been falling off lately. I think the scouting report has caught on to the fact that his scoring bag is pretty limited.

[prime1time]

Have to be able to admit when you're wrong. Deni's improvement has been nothing short of stunning. It's fair to wonder if he can still improve more. Looking at Avdija now, he has chance to be the best player in his draft class. If there's one lesson to learn from this it's that some players take time. The Wiz drafted Avdija hoping that he would help elevate the Beal led Wizards. But he needed time. 26/6/5. I always said that if Avdija improved his 3-point shot the game would open up for him. It has but what he's doing now is way beyond that. Avdija is now averaging 8.1 free throw attempts a game. That's 7th in the league. I don't watch Blazer games and I still think the Blazers don't have a path to a championship but Deni's improvement is something to be applauded. I really can't think of any who has improved more in their career than Deni Avdija.

[prime1time]

Have to be able to admit when you're wrong. Deni's improvement has been nothing short of stunning. It's fair to wonder if he can still improve more. Looking at Avdija now, he has chance to be the best player in his draft class. If there's one lesson to learn from this it's that some players take time. The Wiz drafted Avdija hoping that he would help elevate the Beal led Wizards. But he needed time. 26/6/5. I always said that if Avdija improved his 3-point shot the game would open up for him. It has but what he's doing now is way beyond that. Avdija is now averaging 8.1 free throw attempts a game. That's 7th in the league. I don't watch Blazer games and I still think the Blazers don't have a path to a championship but Deni's improvement is something to be applauded. I really can't think of any who has improved more in their career than Deni Avdija.

The closest thing imo is Jermaine O'neal.

[dckingsfan]

Have to be able to admit when you're wrong. Deni's improvement has been nothing short of stunning. It's fair to wonder if he can still improve more. Looking at Avdija now, he has chance to be the best player in his draft class. If there's one lesson to learn from this it's that some players take time. The Wiz drafted Avdija hoping that he would help elevate the Beal led Wizards. But he needed time. 26/6/5. I always said that if Avdija improved his 3-point shot the game would open up for him. It has but what he's doing now is way beyond that. Avdija is now averaging 8.1 free throw attempts a game. That's 7th in the league. I don't watch Blazer games and I still think the Blazers don't have a path to a championship but Deni's improvement is something to be applauded. I really can't think of any who has improved more in their career than Deni Avdija.

What is interesting is that he continues to be "team Deni". He is always making those pocket passes, rooting for his teammates and just making them better on the court.

And now he is becoming crunch-time Deni. I really didn't see that happening where he could transition to the #1 option offensively on a winning team.

[dobrojim]

Have to be able to admit when you're wrong. Deni's improvement has been nothing short of stunning. It's fair to wonder if he can still improve more. Looking at Avdija now, he has chance to be the best player in his draft class. If there's one lesson to learn from this it's that some players take time. The Wiz drafted Avdija hoping that he would help elevate the Beal led Wizards. But he needed time. 26/6/5. I always said that if Avdija improved his 3-point shot the game would open up for him. It has but what he's doing now is way beyond that. Avdija is now averaging 8.1 free throw attempts a game. That's 7th in the league. I don't watch Blazer games and I still think the Blazers don't have a path to a championship but Deni's improvement is something to be applauded. I really can't think of any who has improved more in their career than Deni Avdija.

So the conclusion might ought to be who, in 5 years,
will be the best player in the Flagg draft. Or in the 25
draft.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

Have to be able to admit when you're wrong. Deni's improvement has been nothing short of stunning. It's fair to wonder if he can still improve more. Looking at Avdija now, he has chance to be the best player in his draft class. If there's one lesson to learn from this it's that some players take time. The Wiz drafted Avdija hoping that he would help elevate the Beal led Wizards. But he needed time. 26/6/5. I always said that if Avdija improved his 3-point shot the game would open up for him. It has but what he's doing now is way beyond that. Avdija is now averaging 8.1 free throw attempts a game. That's 7th in the league. I don't watch Blazer games and I still think the Blazers don't have a path to a championship but Deni's improvement is something to be applauded. I really can't think of any who has improved more in their career than Deni Avdija.

Props.

[nate33]

This trade is on it's 99th page. I'm going to lock it and not start a Part II. If someone really feels the need to start a Part II of this, I won't stop them, but I think the conversation has run its course.

I think, at this point, Deni conversations can take place in the NBA Games Discussion Thread or the Tracking Former Wizards thread.