2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[Tim_Hardawayy]

he’s been here for 7 years now and has been defended like he’s Michael Jordan majority of his tenure

This is so disingenuous and I don't know why you do this. Saying he's not trash is defending him like he's Michael Jordan?

Stop it Timmy, that’s not how those conversations go and it’s far more extreme than “he’s not trash”. I don’t think he’s trash, he’s just not the elite of the elite like many pretend and if he is, it’s time he starts proving it and proving it in the playoffs where it matters most. Any criticism or comparison of Herro and there’s 6-7 posters coming at you with pitch forks. On top of that the second we lose or the other team goes on a 8-0 run or something here comes the “oh yeah we really don’t need Herro do we guys” posts from a few of them, then we end up pulling out the W like last night. I just want him to back up the nonsense that comes with it all

You don't get to use hyperbole and then when others do it back to you say "what are you talking about???" That's disingenuous.

OK I'll be more exact in my wording, how is claiming Herro isn't completely expendable, played like an all-star last season, was a net positive all year long, and might be able to provide something to this team, "defending him like he's Michael Jordan"? You're poking people in the eye and then getting mad when they respond, is what you're doing.

The reasonable criticism is that he's a flawed player who holds the team back defensively, might cost too much to keep, and might not be worth investing in long term. I haven't seen a single poster dispute those points, even the ones you claim are "stans". What actually happens is people (mostly yourself along with a few others to lesser degree) address him in a way like he's actively sabotaging the team or holding it back. Which I don't agree with at all, and there's very little evidence for it. There's plenty of evidence for his flaws as a player, but he's not like this black sheep we need to discard.

EDIT: This all depends on money of course. At a certain price tag he will be untenable. But I disagree with any poster who thinks at his current 30 million, or maybe up to 40, that he can't be a positive value asset, which is all you can really ask for in the modern NBA, where most players making more than the minimum are negative value (yeah the entire salary cap system is broken but that's a whole other discussion).

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This is so disingenuous and I don't know why you do this. Saying he's not trash is defending him like he's Michael Jordan?

Stop it Timmy, that’s not how those conversations go and it’s far more extreme than “he’s not trash”. I don’t think he’s trash, he’s just not the elite of the elite like many pretend and if he is, it’s time he starts proving it and proving it in the playoffs where it matters most. Any criticism or comparison of Herro and there’s 6-7 posters coming at you with pitch forks. On top of that the second we lose or the other team goes on a 8-0 run or something here comes the “oh yeah we really don’t need Herro do we guys” posts from a few of them, then we end up pulling out the W like last night. I just want him to back up the nonsense that comes with it all

You don't get to use hyperbole and then when others do it back to you say "what are you talking about???" That's disingenuous.

OK I'll be more exact in my wording, how is claiming Herro isn't completely expendable, played like an all-star last season, was a net positive all year long, and might be able to provide something to this team, "defending him like he's Michael Jordan"? You're poking people in the eye and then getting mad when they respond, is what you're doing.

The reasonable criticism is that he's a flawed player who holds the team back defensively, might cost too much to keep, and might not be worth investing in long term. I haven't seen a single poster dispute those points, even the ones you claim are "stans". What actually happens is people (mostly yourself along with a few others to lesser degree) address him in a way like he's actively sabotaging the team or holding it back. Which I don't agree with at all, and there's very little evidence for it. There's plenty of evidence for his flaws as a player, but he's not like this black sheep we need to discard.

EDIT: This all depends on money of course. At a certain price tag he will be untenable. But I disagree with any poster who thinks at his current 30 million, or maybe up to 40, that he can't be a positive value asset, which is all you can really ask for in the modern NBA, where most players making more than the minimum are negative value (yeah the entire salary cap system is broken but that's a whole other discussion).

You continue to speak your opinion on Tyler and pretend that’s how everyone else views him as well though, and the thing is I actually agree with your view on him for the most part. There are absolutely others on here that think he is worth the max extension and is worth investing in long term. They pretend he’s the entire offense and the team can do nothing without him. Pretend he’s some sort of savior for finally having a good season in what was our worst season since acquiring him. The second the team struggles they start flocking to the GTs talking about how much we need him with a bunch of tongue in cheek comments. Pretend he’s far superior than any potential trade target that comes up, would rather keep him over Bam if we land Giannis despite him never contributing to winning when it matters most, etc.

I’ve been staying away from the topic mostly here lately and sitting back and laughing at the nonsense but there’s a group of them that just go haywire when he’s spoke on in a certain way and just act like everyone else are idiots so I jumped in to address a couple points lol. He’s so protected but has done nothing of significance for the franchise, it’s mind boggling to me.

And I’m not going to argue whether we’re better off with or without him, that’s a whole other discussion and it remains to be seen for this season but there’s is far more evidence that we’ve been better off without him for his tenure with the Heat than with Him and that’s not even close.

I’m not going to continue to go down this rabbit hole though, let’s hope for all of us he comes back and everything just flows perfectly and even better than it currently is. Unexpectedly we’ve become very fun to watch this year and we’re probably catching the eye of many around the league, we just need 1 to put us over the top. Or hell, maybe we don’t, but time will tell.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

There are absolutely others on here that think he is worth the max extension and is worth investing in long term. They pretend he’s the entire offense and the team can do nothing without him. Pretend he’s some sort of savior for finally having a good season in what was our worst season since acquiring him. The second the team struggles they start flocking to the GTs talking about how much we need him with a bunch of tongue in cheek comments. Pretend he’s far superior than any potential trade target that comes up, would rather keep him over Bam if we land Giannis despite him never contributing to winning when it matters most, etc.

This is fiction, or again, hyperbole. I don't see people saying the team can't do anything without him (maybe last season when the offense was a struggle and Jaime was going through it), and I don't think I have ever once seen a single poster on this website suggest he should be maxed, at least not without great trepidation. I know you like to post on twitter a lot and I think you're bringing your twitter battles here, but realgm doesn't have those sorts of low IQ low information fans, at least not near to the same extent.

[Vertical Limit]

Im very busy these days with a lot of work (thank god), so havent post much.. but just felt i needed to drop by and remind everyone that Herro is not a top 50 player in the nba and arguably is closer to 70-80.


Have a good day.. and if anyone here thinks he should get paid higher than Giddey, then you want us yo make the Wizards mistake with Beal

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Im very busy these days with a lot of work (thank god), so havent post much.. but just felt i needed to drop by and remind everyone that Herro is not a top 50 player in the nba and arguably is closer to 70-80.


Have a good day.. and if anyone here thinks he should get paid higher than Giddey, then you want us yo make the Wizards mistake with Beal

lol this is what I mean, I don't even mind you have this opinion but these are Heat fans dropping posts like this, and then you have people claiming he's not hated or defending him is unjustified and means you think he's Michael Jordan. Its silly.

(I don't mind if you hate Herro either but at least claim it like VL does)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

There are absolutely others on here that think he is worth the max extension and is worth investing in long term. They pretend he’s the entire offense and the team can do nothing without him. Pretend he’s some sort of savior for finally having a good season in what was our worst season since acquiring him. The second the team struggles they start flocking to the GTs talking about how much we need him with a bunch of tongue in cheek comments. Pretend he’s far superior than any potential trade target that comes up, would rather keep him over Bam if we land Giannis despite him never contributing to winning when it matters most, etc.

This is fiction, or again, hyperbole. I don't see people saying the team can't do anything without him (maybe last season when the offense was a struggle and Jaime was going through it), and I don't think I have ever once seen a single poster on this website suggest he should be maxed, at least not without great trepidation. I know you like to post on twitter a lot and I think you're bringing your twitter battles here, but realgm doesn't have those sorts of low IQ low information fans, at least not near to the same extent.

You don’t see it because you’re not here, I pulled 20 receipts the last time we went over this lol. Over the course of the season I’m just going to quote the posts and say “Timmy” so I can easily go back to them for future use when you pretend I’m making stuff up lol.

I don’t have twitter battles, I don’t post on Twitter and there are some informed posters on here and there are some not very informed posters here. It goes both ways which is understandable and nothing wrong with it for the most part

[Tim_Hardawayy]

There are absolutely others on here that think he is worth the max extension and is worth investing in long term. They pretend he’s the entire offense and the team can do nothing without him. Pretend he’s some sort of savior for finally having a good season in what was our worst season since acquiring him. The second the team struggles they start flocking to the GTs talking about how much we need him with a bunch of tongue in cheek comments. Pretend he’s far superior than any potential trade target that comes up, would rather keep him over Bam if we land Giannis despite him never contributing to winning when it matters most, etc.

This is fiction, or again, hyperbole. I don't see people saying the team can't do anything without him (maybe last season when the offense was a struggle and Jaime was going through it), and I don't think I have ever once seen a single poster on this website suggest he should be maxed, at least not without great trepidation. I know you like to post on twitter a lot and I think you're bringing your twitter battles here, but realgm doesn't have those sorts of low IQ low information fans, at least not near to the same extent.

You don’t see it because you’re not here, I pulled 20 receipts the last time we went over this lol. Over the course of the season I’m just going to quote the posts and say “Timmy” so I can easily go back to them for future use when you pretend I’m making stuff up lol.

I don’t have twitter battles, I don’t post on Twitter and there are some informed posters on here and there are some not very informed posters here. It goes both ways which is understandable and nothing wrong with it for the most part

If you can find 20 posts on a website that has thousands a day (and even this board generates dozens a day even on slow days), that isn't saying a lot. How would you feel if we had someone as obsessed about getting rid of Bam as you are Herro, who posted your hot takes every day? I can tell you they'd have a lot more than 20 to go through. Is it so much to ask that we all just root for the guys on our team? I haven't even called out the Wiggins homers lately (which is still bizarre to me that Wiggins has homers), as long as people root for the Heat I'm good.

I lurk a lot btw, just don't post nearly as much, but I'm not missing what's going on. Just don't feel the need to chime in nearly as much as I used to.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This is fiction, or again, hyperbole. I don't see people saying the team can't do anything without him (maybe last season when the offense was a struggle and Jaime was going through it), and I don't think I have ever once seen a single poster on this website suggest he should be maxed, at least not without great trepidation. I know you like to post on twitter a lot and I think you're bringing your twitter battles here, but realgm doesn't have those sorts of low IQ low information fans, at least not near to the same extent.

You don’t see it because you’re not here, I pulled 20 receipts the last time we went over this lol. Over the course of the season I’m just going to quote the posts and say “Timmy” so I can easily go back to them for future use when you pretend I’m making stuff up lol.

I don’t have twitter battles, I don’t post on Twitter and there are some informed posters on here and there are some not very informed posters here. It goes both ways which is understandable and nothing wrong with it for the most part

If you can find 20 posts on a website that has thousands a day (and even this board generates dozens a day even on slow days), that isn't saying a lot. How would you feel if we had someone as obsessed about getting rid of Bam as you are Herro, who posted your hot takes every day? I can tell you they'd have a lot more than 20 to go through. Is it so much to ask that we all just root for the guys on our team? I haven't even called out the Wiggins homers lately (which is still bizarre to me that Wiggins has homers), as long as people root for the Heat I'm good.

I lurk a lot btw, just don't post nearly as much, but I'm not missing what's going on. Just don't feel the need to chime in nearly as much as I used to.

They were pretty recent posts and basically this forum specifically with a quick glance, I wasn’t going to keep digging and digging. As for Bam, he’s **** on far more than Tyler (for whatever reason) but I actually have ground to stand on there with his standing and what he’s done for the franchise and I continue to be correct on the stances I take on him year to year.

Wiggins Stan’s is wild to me as well, did not know it was a thing until we got him but they’ve been cool for the most part and bring activity. I’m with you on the last part of your post, I’m mostly posting about the games or sharing any heat related content I see and bringing it over to the board. I’ve stepped back from the back and forth but decided to chime in when reading some of the discussion going back and forth here recently

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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AD is already fragile as it is, playing at this pace might legitimately end him. Tough to pass up on talent like AD and Kyrie, those are elite players but I really think we need to hold out for that perfect piece. Then again I think holding out in the past hoping for the perfect acquisition bit us in the ass

[Tim_Hardawayy]

As for Bam, he’s **** on far more than Tyler (for whatever reason)

I mean this is just factually not true. In fact I'll make an appeal to the board because I don't feel like scraping the website for every Bam critical post.

Whatever you think of me or 3ammy, just neutral take, if you think Tyler gets **** on more than Bam, and-1 my post. Note this has nothing to do with who is a better player or who you'd rather have on the team (its Bam in both cases for me), just who gets **** on more.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

As for Bam, he’s **** on far more than Tyler (for whatever reason)

I mean this is just factually not true. In fact I'll make an appeal to the board because I don't feel like scraping the website for every Bam critical post.

Whatever you think of me or 3ammy, just neutral take, if you think Tyler gets **** on more than Bam, and-1 my post. Note this has nothing to do with who is a better player or who you'd rather have on the team (its Bam in both cases for me), just who gets **** on more.

Who **** on Tyler lol? Me and VL? Majority will And1 just to disagree with me by the way because they’re butt hurt about old Bam hot takes I shut down

[Tim_Hardawayy]

As for Bam, he’s **** on far more than Tyler (for whatever reason)

I mean this is just factually not true. In fact I'll make an appeal to the board because I don't feel like scraping the website for every Bam critical post.

Whatever you think of me or 3ammy, just neutral take, if you think Tyler gets **** on more than Bam, and-1 my post. Note this has nothing to do with who is a better player or who you'd rather have on the team (its Bam in both cases for me), just who gets **** on more.

Who **** on Tyler lol? Me and VL? Majority will And1 just to disagree with me by the way because they’re butt hurt about old Bam hot takes I shut down

I'm just saying, you're giving principal skinner energy with all this.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I mean this is just factually not true. In fact I'll make an appeal to the board because I don't feel like scraping the website for every Bam critical post.

Whatever you think of me or 3ammy, just neutral take, if you think Tyler gets **** on more than Bam, and-1 my post. Note this has nothing to do with who is a better player or who you'd rather have on the team (its Bam in both cases for me), just who gets **** on more.

Who **** on Tyler lol? Me and VL? Majority will And1 just to disagree with me by the way because they’re butt hurt about old Bam hot takes I shut down

I'm just saying, you're giving principal skinner energy with all this.

Nope lol, guess I’ll start quoting those going forward as well.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[MadD23]

As for Bam, he’s **** on far more than Tyler (for whatever reason)

I mean this is just factually not true. In fact I'll make an appeal to the board because I don't feel like scraping the website for every Bam critical post.

Whatever you think of me or 3ammy, just neutral take, if you think Tyler gets **** on more than Bam, and-1 my post. Note this has nothing to do with who is a better player or who you'd rather have on the team (its Bam in both cases for me), just who gets **** on more.

Who **** on Tyler lol? Me and VL? Majority will And1 just to disagree with me by the way because they’re butt hurt about old Bam hot takes I shut down

I personally disagree with you because you want to force feed your obsession on everyone and your logic is flawed. You hate on a guy daily repeating the same nonsense and want to ridicule anyone who dares to disagree with your none stop bashing. Don't play victim, no one in here is saying Tyler is Jordan, but we understand young players like Herro are not easy to find and he is our best offensive go to guy. He is our Allstar. You can spend every minute of your life wishing for him to get traded for Morant, Giannis or even a bag of chips (none of that is our current reality), but others like myself just want to enjoy the process of his development and I for damn sure liked what I saw last year from him when in reality he was in the perfect scenario to fail. Now I am looking forward to see what he can do in more favorable situation for him to succeed and help the team stack those wins. Would I support a trade for Giannis or any other real super star, you better believe it, but in the meantime, that's a bunch of nonsense.

[MadD23]

Who **** on Tyler lol? Me and VL? Majority will And1 just to disagree with me by the way because they’re butt hurt about old Bam hot takes I shut down

I'm just saying, you're giving principal skinner energy with all this.

Nope lol, guess I’ll start quoting those going forward as well.

Here you go playing victim again. Grow up bud.

[HeatFanLifer]

I mean this is just factually not true. In fact I'll make an appeal to the board because I don't feel like scraping the website for every Bam critical post.

Whatever you think of me or 3ammy, just neutral take, if you think Tyler gets **** on more than Bam, and-1 my post. Note this has nothing to do with who is a better player or who you'd rather have on the team (its Bam in both cases for me), just who gets **** on more.

Who **** on Tyler lol? Me and VL? Majority will And1 just to disagree with me by the way because they’re butt hurt about old Bam hot takes I shut down

I personally disagree with you because you want to force feed your obsession on everyone and your logic is flawed. You hate on a guy daily repeating the same nonsense and want to ridicule anyone who dares to disagree with your none stop bashing. Don't play victim, no one in here is saying Tyler is Jordan, but we understand young players like Herro are not easy to find and he is our best offensive go to guy. He is our Allstar. You can spend every minute of your life wishing for him to get traded for Morant, Giannis or even a bag of chips (none of that is our current reality), but others like myself just want to enjoy the process of his development and I for damn sure liked what I saw last year from him when in reality he was in the perfect scenario to fail. Now I am looking forward to see what he can do in more favorable situation for him to succeed and help the team stack those wins. Would I support a trade for Giannis or any other real super star, you better believe it, but in the meantime, that's a bunch of nonsense.

Oppressor/Oppression theory reaches basketball debate.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I mean this is just factually not true. In fact I'll make an appeal to the board because I don't feel like scraping the website for every Bam critical post.

Whatever you think of me or 3ammy, just neutral take, if you think Tyler gets **** on more than Bam, and-1 my post. Note this has nothing to do with who is a better player or who you'd rather have on the team (its Bam in both cases for me), just who gets **** on more.

Who **** on Tyler lol? Me and VL? Majority will And1 just to disagree with me by the way because they’re butt hurt about old Bam hot takes I shut down

I personally disagree with you because you want to force feed your obsession on everyone and your logic is flawed. You hate on a guy daily repeating the same nonsense and want to ridicule anyone who dares to disagree with your none stop bashing. Don't play victim, no one in here is saying Tyler is Jordan, but we understand young players like Herro are not easy to find and he is our best offensive go to guy. He is our Allstar. You can spend every minute of your life wishing for him to get traded for Morant, Giannis or even a bag of chips (none of that is our current reality), but others like myself just want to enjoy the process of his development and I for damn sure liked what I saw last year from him when in reality he was in the perfect scenario to fail. Now I am looking forward to see what he can do in more favorable situation for him to succeed and help the team stack those wins. Would I support a trade for Giannis or any other real super star, you better believe it, but in the meantime, that's a bunch of nonsense.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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More teams = more games = more betting.

Silver just doing what the mafia wants. This change is not about the game nor the fans.

[Daffy]

OMG another day with these same bull Herro/Bam takes. They're on the same **** team trying to win games for US FANS. Some people will like Herro more than other. Some people will like Bam more than others. Stop trying to force your feelings on either player on to others. Stop with the stupid trades. Stop with the constant smart remarks. That's it. That's all. This isn't directed towards any one person either. It's a general statement.