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Post#301 » by Chi town » Today 2:12 am

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It's early in the 2nd and Noa already had 17 with 2 3s.

There is no way he's worse than guys like Phillips, Terry, Carter, or even Okoro.


I really feel like Bulls fans are linking Noa being with the WCB with whether or not he’s already “better” than Terry or Phillips.

I really don’t think that’s the basis or reason for what they are doing.



It’s not the reason at all.

Noa is still better than JP and DT right now.
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Post#302 » by HomoSapien » Today 2:13 am

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I'm sorry, I don't want to hear how that the reason Essengue isn't playing is because he's hot garbage and not good enough to play over Phillips and Terry ever again.
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Post#303 » by Bulliever2020 » Today 2:14 am

Very encouraging highlights.

I see:
-Finishing through contact
-Solid handles
-Some very nice touch on some midrange jumpers, also through contact
-A very nice looking shooting stroke from 3
-His length providing a problem for opponents

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Post#304 » by Chi town » Today 2:18 am

GoBlue72391 wrote:Caveat for the G League being several notches below the Euroleague, let alone the NBA, in terms of competition level, but like I said, it's far more likely that the Bulls org is being overly conservative to an extreme degree with Essengue than it is that he's uber-raw and completely unplayable at the NBA level. Yes he is very raw, but not "cannot let him touch the floor of an NBA game" raw.

The Bulls have a history of doing things their own, often bizarre, way. Look at their history with handling injuries, secret extensions, weird anti-headband rules they used to have, GMs choking out coaches, they used to be very anti-D League back when it was called that, etc.

This is a very unorthodox organization.


Yep.

He should be getting every DT JP min every night.

If the Bulls want to win he gives them better mins.

I think their wierd unorthodox ways also doesn’t want to develop two very young players at the same time on the floor together with Buz and Noa. I think if Buz was playing more consistent like a vet Noa may have already gotten some burn.
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Post#305 » by cocktailswith_2short » Today 2:23 am

He has a lot of tools I like . Size/handles/he can shoot . I can see why the bulls liked him enough to keep the pick and take him . He also just looks like a basketball player in those highlights . It's weird to describe it that mundanely. I think I've heard a knock on him that he's just "another tall guy and that thats part of the project package but he clearly looks better than that .
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Post#306 » by DuckIII » Today 2:25 am

HomoSapien wrote:
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I'm sorry, I don't want to hear how that the reason Essengue isn't playing is because he's hot garbage and not good enough to play over Phillips and Terry ever again.


I don’t see why it’s a stretch or controversial to simply accept the org’s stated reason as: (a) true; and (b) a logical developmental plan given the complete context.

This is all a bowl of vanilla ice cream to me. If anything, I affirmatively approve of it. For now.
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Post#307 » by Senor Chang » Today 2:28 am

Watching the first half highlights of Noa on twitter and wow. Here I thought he was Tyrus Thomas with a better jump shot (not saying much) but he looks more than that right now.

Throw this man into the wolves Billy! He’s probably already better than patrick big decent Williams.


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Post#308 » by Red Larrivee » Today 2:30 am

HomoSapien wrote:
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I'm sorry, I don't want to hear how that the reason Essengue isn't playing is because he's hot garbage and not good enough to play over Phillips and Terry ever again.


Phillips and Terry also played really well in GL too. Everyone kinda does. Nobody's said that Essengue couldn't play well in GL.

But, that's not why he's not playing.
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Post#309 » by jordanwilliams6 » Today 2:34 am

DuckIII wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=xOB22xGd85UcfRRu6zUm4w

I'm sorry, I don't want to hear how that the reason Essengue isn't playing is because he's hot garbage and not good enough to play over Phillips and Terry ever again.


I don’t see why it’s a stretch or controversial to simply accept the org’s stated reason as: (a) true; and (b) a logical developmental plan given the complete context.

This is all a bowl of vanilla ice cream to me. If anything, I affirmatively approve of it. For now.

I'd say I agree with how the Bulls are treating his development at the moment. It's only 9 games into the season.

Does Noa receive more development playing 30 minutes a game and shooting 15-20 shots in the G league or playing 10 minutes against season NBA competition whilst he stands in the corner on offense. I'd argue that the former is more beneficial at the moment.

There will come a time during the 2025-26 season where there will be an opportunity to further his development in those spot minutes in the NBA. We forget that it's a very very long season. The kid is literally still 18 and the second youngest player (& most physically underdeveloped) in the entire league by 3 days.
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Post#310 » by Jcool0 » Today 2:44 am

jordanwilliams6 wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=xOB22xGd85UcfRRu6zUm4w

I'm sorry, I don't want to hear how that the reason Essengue isn't playing is because he's hot garbage and not good enough to play over Phillips and Terry ever again.


I don’t see why it’s a stretch or controversial to simply accept the org’s stated reason as: (a) true; and (b) a logical developmental plan given the complete context.

This is all a bowl of vanilla ice cream to me. If anything, I affirmatively approve of it. For now.

I'd say I agree with how the Bulls are treating his development at the moment. It's only 9 games into the season.

Does Noa receive more development playing 30 minutes a game and shooting 15-20 shots in the G league or playing 10 minutes against season NBA competition whilst he stands in the corner on offense. I'd argue that the former is more beneficial at the moment.

There will come a time during the 2025-26 season where there will be an opportunity to further his development in those spot minutes in the NBA. We forget that it's a very very long season. The kid is literally still 18 and the second youngest player (& most physically underdeveloped) in the entire league by 3 days.


G League has never been beneficial for anyone. It's a waste for NBA level players.
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Post#311 » by Chi town » Today 2:58 am

Jcool0 wrote:
jordanwilliams6 wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
I don’t see why it’s a stretch or controversial to simply accept the org’s stated reason as: (a) true; and (b) a logical developmental plan given the complete context.

This is all a bowl of vanilla ice cream to me. If anything, I affirmatively approve of it. For now.

I'd say I agree with how the Bulls are treating his development at the moment. It's only 9 games into the season.

Does Noa receive more development playing 30 minutes a game and shooting 15-20 shots in the G league or playing 10 minutes against season NBA competition whilst he stands in the corner on offense. I'd argue that the former is more beneficial at the moment.

There will come a time during the 2025-26 season where there will be an opportunity to further his development in those spot minutes in the NBA. We forget that it's a very very long season. The kid is literally still 18 and the second youngest player (& most physically underdeveloped) in the entire league by 3 days.


G League has never been beneficial for anyone. It's a waste for NBA level players.



Yep. Tend to agree.

Billy said Noa needs on ball reps. I bet he gets that in WC practices and 5-7 games before they believe in the development and he starts getting this spot first half mins that Buz got. He will have to earn anything more than those 5-6 mins first half stretches.
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Post#312 » by NecessaryEvil » Today 3:09 am

Giddey/Essengue/White/Buzelis/Dosunmu is the core

Noa is going to be special
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Post#313 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Today 3:24 am

I love his size and fluidity, and this production at 18 is great, even if it’s just the G League.

But one thing that stands out going back to Summer League is his lack of explosion, both north/south and vertically. He’s essentially an under the rim player despite being gigantic.

Hopefully NBA training unlocks his athletic potential. I doubt he’ll ever be skilled enough to be a high impact starter without a little bounce to his game.
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Post#314 » by ghostinthepost1 » Today 3:42 am

https://youtu.be/Pq8dPQVfRLg?si=A1bYAEtr0uEbGB7Q

I'm hoping the plan was to not see a ton of Noa during the first 10 games since that stretch was so hard and now that our schedule lightens up he starts getting some minutes.
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Post#315 » by Chi town » Today 4:13 am

ghostinthepost1 wrote:https://youtu.be/Pq8dPQVfRLg?si=A1bYAEtr0uEbGB7Q

I'm hoping the plan was to not see a ton of Noa during the first 10 games since that stretch was so hard and now that our schedule lightens up he starts getting some minutes.


Much better watch on YT.

Kid has a nose for the ball.

He can def draw fouls. Think he will be really good at this.

Think he’s going to be a high impact guy.
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Post#316 » by Chi town » Today 4:14 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:I love his size and fluidity, and this production at 18 is great, even if it’s just the G League.

But one thing that stands out going back to Summer League is his lack of explosion, both north/south and vertically. He’s essentially an under the rim player despite being gigantic.

Hopefully NBA training unlocks his athletic potential. I doubt he’ll ever be skilled enough to be a high impact starter without a little bounce to his game.


Will be fascinating to see how he develops athletically. If he ever becomes explosive watch out.
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Post#317 » by GuardianEnzo » Today 4:22 am

He sure likes going to his left.
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Post#318 » by HomoSapien » Today 4:52 am

Honest question, in the last 25 years has there been a top 12 pick that received DNP-CD through his first ten games?
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Post#319 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Today 6:55 am

Chi town wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:I love his size and fluidity, and this production at 18 is great, even if it’s just the G League.

But one thing that stands out going back to Summer League is his lack of explosion, both north/south and vertically. He’s essentially an under the rim player despite being gigantic.

Hopefully NBA training unlocks his athletic potential. I doubt he’ll ever be skilled enough to be a high impact starter without a little bounce to his game.


Will be fascinating to see how he develops athletically. If he ever becomes explosive watch out.


I don’t even think he needs much. At his size, a little athletic pop would go a long way.
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