ImageImageImage

Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread

Moderators: bisme37, Froob, Darthlukey, Shak_Celts, Parliament10, canman1971, shackles10, snowman

tfmiii
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,566
And1: 2,674
Joined: Dec 08, 2004
Location: home, home on the Front Range

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#461 » by tfmiii » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:52 pm

Mazzula Dalenda Est LOL

https://youtu.be/th_6krZqumo?si=DLpGcphYWfmEyy2O

Our defense on screens and picks does leave me mystified, are we trying to offer them 3s?

Also, we are league worst in 3 ptrs ( highest volume, lowest percentage). We are top 5 in 2 ptrs in percent but bottom 5 in volume. Could we try and switch this up a bit?

Pace is still hovering at league low, we can't afford to walk or jog it up and face a set defense time and again. Bane got a layup after we made a basket just by pushing pace. When are we gonna see that from our guys?
keevsnick1
Analyst
Posts: 3,146
And1: 4,810
Joined: Feb 27, 2017
       

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#462 » by keevsnick1 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:31 pm

With Jaylen Brown on and Garza/Simons off, the C's have a +16.7 net rating in 165 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on and Garza/Simons on, the c's have a -9.5 net rating in 52 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on, Simons on and Garza off the C's have a -17.1 net rating in 82 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on, Simons off and Garza on the C's have a -67.0 net rating in 18 minutes.

Basically, Jaylen Brown with a bunch of solid defenders (Minott, Hugo, Pritchard, White, Queta, Walsh) is incredible. As soon as you add the Garza/Simson traffic cones the thing falls apart.

I honestly think if this team just added 1 more average backup big to replace Garza they could be pretty good this year. Not sure why Boucher can't get a shot, Garza gives you nothing. Doesn't make enough shots, doesn't defensive rebound, zero rim protection. He's a massive anchor around this teams neck right now.
redslastlaugh
Analyst
Posts: 3,672
And1: 4,827
Joined: Aug 13, 2011
 

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#463 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:38 pm

great research...

As for the big man problem, we've still got Amari Williams on a 2-way and we need to see some minutes out of him at some point too

The right minimum guy in the Luka Garza mold available this offseason was Mamukelashvilli. I wonder if Brad went for Mamu but Toronto gauranteed a bigger role & Mamu picked the Raps. Mamu seems like more of a Brad spacing big than Garza imo and Mamu is having a nice start up north

keevsnick1 wrote:With Jaylen Brown on and Garza/Simons off, the C's have a +16.7 net rating in 165 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on and Garza/Simons on, the c's have a -9.5 net rating in 52 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on, Simons on and Garza off the C's have a -17.1 net rating in 82 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on, Simons off and Garza on the C's have a -67.0 net rating in 18 minutes.

Basically, Jaylen Brown with a bunch of solid defenders (Minott, Hugo, Pritchard, White, Queta, Walsh) is incredible. As soon as you add the Garza/Simson traffic cones the thing falls apart.

I honestly think if this team just added 1 more average backup big to replace Garza they could be pretty good this year. Not sure why Boucher can't get a shot, Garza gives you nothing. Doesn't make enough shots, doesn't defensive rebound, zero rim protection. He's a massive anchor around this teams neck right now.
keevsnick1
Analyst
Posts: 3,146
And1: 4,810
Joined: Feb 27, 2017
       

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#464 » by keevsnick1 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 10:50 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:great research...

As for the big man problem, we've still got Amari Williams on a 2-way and we need to see some minutes out of him at some point too

The right minimum guy in the Luka Garza mold available this offseason was Mamukelashvilli. I wonder if Brad went for Mamu but Toronto gauranteed a bigger role & Mamu picked the Raps. Mamu seems like more of a Brad spacing big than Garza imo and Mamu is having a nice start up north

keevsnick1 wrote:With Jaylen Brown on and Garza/Simons off, the C's have a +16.7 net rating in 165 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on and Garza/Simons on, the c's have a -9.5 net rating in 52 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on, Simons on and Garza off the C's have a -17.1 net rating in 82 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on, Simons off and Garza on the C's have a -67.0 net rating in 18 minutes.

Basically, Jaylen Brown with a bunch of solid defenders (Minott, Hugo, Pritchard, White, Queta, Walsh) is incredible. As soon as you add the Garza/Simson traffic cones the thing falls apart.

I honestly think if this team just added 1 more average backup big to replace Garza they could be pretty good this year. Not sure why Boucher can't get a shot, Garza gives you nothing. Doesn't make enough shots, doesn't defensive rebound, zero rim protection. He's a massive anchor around this teams neck right now.


Normally I'd say that a 2-way player is probably not the answer to a roster problem, but honestly i don't see how he could possibly be worse than Garza has to this point. I just don't think Garza does much of anything. He shoots, but doesn't make threes. he doesn't defensive rebound. not really a rim protector. fouls a lot. Not sure why he's getting minutes over Boucher.

Garza may be taller than Boucher, but Boucher has a 9'2 standing reach and a 7'4 wingspan. Boucher is probably longer than Garza, and he shot 36% from 3 last year. Just give him some center minutes and see how it looks.

Garza is 8th on the team in total minutes and by far has the worst net rating at -13.3. He's killing this team right now.
celticgreenie
Junior
Posts: 496
And1: 391
Joined: Dec 12, 2011

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#465 » by celticgreenie » Sun Nov 9, 2025 4:05 am

Sadly I think some of the distribution for playing time can be determined simply by contract length. Pritchard has two more years on Simons in terms of contract length, Garza has 1 more year on Boucher and Tillman.

I wish Brad had given Minott the Garza contract, and vice versa. Granted, Kornet worked out nicely for the C's but I am having a hard time imagining it with Garza.
cloverleaf
RealGM
Posts: 10,388
And1: 7,696
Joined: Feb 10, 2007

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#466 » by cloverleaf » Sun Nov 9, 2025 9:51 am

keevsnick1 wrote:With Jaylen Brown on and Garza/Simons off, the C's have a +16.7 net rating in 165 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on and Garza/Simons on, the c's have a -9.5 net rating in 52 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on, Simons on and Garza off the C's have a -17.1 net rating in 82 minutes.
With Jaylen Brown on, Simons off and Garza on the C's have a -67.0 net rating in 18 minutes.

Basically, Jaylen Brown with a bunch of solid defenders (Minott, Hugo, Pritchard, White, Queta, Walsh) is incredible. As soon as you add the Garza/Simson traffic cones the thing falls apart.

I honestly think if this team just added 1 more average backup big to replace Garza they could be pretty good this year. Not sure why Boucher can't get a shot, Garza gives you nothing. Doesn't make enough shots, doesn't defensive rebound, zero rim protection. He's a massive anchor around this teams neck right now.


JB's long been an on/off +/- black hole. Has been in the negative for 7 of his 10 years in the league--and not in the positive since 21-22:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brownja02.html
User avatar
ryan in Maine
General Manager
Posts: 7,924
And1: 13,645
Joined: Sep 06, 2005
 

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#467 » by ryan in Maine » Sun Nov 9, 2025 3:43 pm

If you could boost a single skill for Minott tomorrow, what would it be?
UNIONIZE! WITH THE EMERGENCY WORKPLACE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (EWOC)!
darrendaye
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 17,241
And1: 10,394
Joined: May 06, 2001
Location: Pollard Powered, in Yonkers, NY
     

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#468 » by darrendaye » Sun Nov 9, 2025 5:58 pm

Admittedly I agree with their conclusions so there's bias, but thought this was a very good hour of quality discussion and analysis.

;t=1919s
Member of the following organizations:
YPSS: Yes, Pritchard Should Start
RWIT: Rebounding Wing Is a Thing
AAH: All About Hugo
User avatar
Parliament10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 52,341
And1: 61,709
Joined: Jul 24, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#469 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 9, 2025 7:41 pm

ryan in Maine wrote:If you could boost a single skill for Minott tomorrow, what would it be?

Scoring, undoubtedly.
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum
User avatar
ryan in Maine
General Manager
Posts: 7,924
And1: 13,645
Joined: Sep 06, 2005
 

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#470 » by ryan in Maine » Sun Nov 9, 2025 9:03 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
ryan in Maine wrote:If you could boost a single skill for Minott tomorrow, what would it be?

Scoring, undoubtedly.

And he shows serious promise there, esp getting to the rim. He looks really floaty at times.

JB said Minott needs to step up, which i take as pretty encouraging. JB wants Minott to score.
UNIONIZE! WITH THE EMERGENCY WORKPLACE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (EWOC)!
User avatar
Parliament10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 52,341
And1: 61,709
Joined: Jul 24, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#471 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 9, 2025 11:00 pm

Read on Twitter




Jaylen #2 in scoring. Impressive.
Let's make it translate into Wins.
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum
keevsnick1
Analyst
Posts: 3,146
And1: 4,810
Joined: Feb 27, 2017
       

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#472 » by keevsnick1 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:08 am

Celtics next 6 games will be very telling. They play @ Phi, vs MEM, vs LAC, @ Brk, vs Brk, vs ORL. That's two games against teams they've already beaten once, two more against west teams that are struggling, and 2 against a terrible BRK team. Those are 6 winnable games. Like to see them go at least 4-2 (beat BRK 2x, split the other 4) over this next 6.
User avatar
bisme37
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 25,077
And1: 72,943
Joined: May 24, 2014
 

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#473 » by bisme37 » Yesterday 10:41 pm

Read on Twitter
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,777
And1: 17,202
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#474 » by Fierce1 » Yesterday 10:46 pm

bisme37 wrote:
Read on Twitter

That's really a good sign.

Celtics winning with defense is great to see.

And they say Mazzulla-Ball is just about shooting 3s. :lol:
User avatar
jmr07019
General Manager
Posts: 8,704
And1: 8,779
Joined: Oct 29, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#475 » by jmr07019 » Today 1:01 pm

Are either Pritchard or Queta long term starters? Does anyone think a Pritchard White Brown Tatum Queta 5 some is championship caliber?
Show Love Spread Love
brackdan70
RealGM
Posts: 18,510
And1: 13,428
Joined: Jul 15, 2013
Location: Ogden, UT
   

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#476 » by brackdan70 » Today 1:05 pm

jmr07019 wrote:Are either Pritchard or Queta long term starters? Does anyone think a Pritchard White Brown Tatum Queta 5 some is championship caliber?

Pritchard is best suited as a 6th man and Queta is best suited as the first big off the bench. Both can start and be pretty good but I don’t think you are a championship team with both in your starting 5.
I like Queta as a starter more than Pritchard.
Jordan Walsh > Lonnie Walker and Charles Bassey
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,777
And1: 17,202
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#477 » by Fierce1 » Today 1:19 pm

jmr07019 wrote:Are either Pritchard or Queta long term starters? Does anyone think a Pritchard White Brown Tatum Queta 5 some is championship caliber?

Good news is there are teams that are going to rebuild or blow it up.

What this means is Simons will have value to teams who want an expiring contract.
brackdan70
RealGM
Posts: 18,510
And1: 13,428
Joined: Jul 15, 2013
Location: Ogden, UT
   

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#478 » by brackdan70 » Today 1:20 pm

Hauser, White, Pritchard not making shots.
One of these guys doesn’t contribute much else besides shooting. Might be time to move him with guys like Walsh, Gonzalez and Minott contributing effectively.
Jordan Walsh > Lonnie Walker and Charles Bassey
User avatar
jmr07019
General Manager
Posts: 8,704
And1: 8,779
Joined: Oct 29, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#479 » by jmr07019 » Today 1:44 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:Are either Pritchard or Queta long term starters? Does anyone think a Pritchard White Brown Tatum Queta 5 some is championship caliber?

Pritchard is best suited as a 6th man and Queta is best suited as the first big off the bench. Both can start and be pretty good but I don’t think you are a championship team with both in your starting 5.
I like Queta as a starter more than Pritchard.


That's how I see it. Both high end bench guys but low end starters. You can get away with one of them starting but not both if you want to be a title contender.
Show Love Spread Love
playa-hater
RealGM
Posts: 22,699
And1: 24,575
Joined: Aug 29, 2020
 

Re: Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread 

Post#480 » by playa-hater » Today 2:51 pm

tfmiii wrote:Mazzula Dalenda Est LOL

https://youtu.be/th_6krZqumo?si=DLpGcphYWfmEyy2O

Our defense on screens and picks does leave me mystified, are we trying to offer them 3s?

Also, we are league worst in 3 ptrs ( highest volume, lowest percentage). We are top 5 in 2 ptrs in percent but bottom 5 in volume. Could we try and switch this up a bit?

Pace is still hovering at league low, we can't afford to walk or jog it up and face a set defense time and again. Bane got a layup after we made a basket just by pushing pace. When are we gonna see that from our guys?


Didn't see this until now. I still can't believe why some people on here just refuse to see how "limited" or "bad" Joe is. Time will tell, but he may be nothing more than "Doc Rivers" lucky to get one Title, but after time he will reveal himself to be nothing more than an Average Joe at the coaching level.
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. :nod:

Return to Boston Celtics