Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[41Dirk41]

Yes Chicago is the most likely scenario for street clothes. They want him and he wants them.

Vucevic is an old empty stats guy, if street clothes wants to play at the 4 then Vuc is a center with range. So perfect.
White has 0 trade value because he is an expires. Unless he will sign here a friendly contract (3 years 45/50M)
Giddey is off limits probably.
Patrick Williams is overpaid a lot (5y 90M for a bench player. Ouch)

Tre Jones and Buzelis are the only players i would like to see here, add filler and 2 FRP and it's a trade.

[Mavrelous]

These are exactly the pqckages I prefer to keep AD over.
I think AD will push for the Clippers, Ballmer ks desperate and will promise him an extention.

[MassimoPayne]

Do you guys really think we get multiple 1st round picks? I doubt it.

At the end of the day we get empty cap guys like white with expering contracts.

[41Dirk41]

These are exactly the pqckages I prefer to keep AD over.
I think AD will push for the Clippers, Ballmer ks desperate and will promise him an extention.

Clippers have nothing interesting for us. Nothing.

[Mavrelous]

These are exactly the pqckages I prefer to keep AD over.
I think AD will push for the Clippers, Ballmer ks desperate and will promise him an extention.

Clippers have nothing interesting for us. Nothing.

I know, but it's Klutch, they get their way...

[Bob8]

These are exactly the pqckages I prefer to keep AD over.
I think AD will push for the Clippers, Ballmer ks desperate and will promise him an extention.

I believe both parties want out. Mavs **** AD pretty hard, Luka is at least appreciated in LA. AD would for sure like to be elsewhere, no way Mavs get motivated AD. This story is over.

[Mavrelous]

Mavs **** AD pretty hard

There are exactly 2 people to blame here, Nico and AD.
Nico for pulling off the ridiculous trade, AD for coming into the season in this shape, last year wasn't his fault, he was trying to help, this year, he knew what's at state, and he came totally unprepared.

[41Dirk41]

These are exactly the pqckages I prefer to keep AD over.
I think AD will push for the Clippers, Ballmer ks desperate and will promise him an extention.

Clippers have nothing interesting for us. Nothing.

I know, but it's Klutch, they get their way...

Yes of course... I don't care how they do the things, if AD will land us young guys and picks i'm ok on everything.

[Bob8]

Mavs **** AD pretty hard

There are exactly 2 people to blame here, Nico and AD.
Nico for pulling off the ridiculous trade, AD for coming into the season in this shape, last year wasn't his fault, he was trying to help, this year, he knew what's at state, and he came totally unprepared.

It really doesn't matter who's fault is. AD is in incredibly difficult situation, nobody wants him here, part of fans openly hate him, team is not going anywhere with him...He has a family, which has to be moved overnight too. He knows he will be traded sooner or later, it's far better for him to demand a trade and have some influence where he goes.

It's a toxic situation, which should be resolved as soon as possible, waiting another year won't solve anything. It's the best for both parties to part away. Mavs luckily got Flagg in all this saga, all things considered if they got few firsts too, they should be reasonably happy. Just imagine what would have happened if those 1.8% didn't bring Flagg?

[Mavrelous]

Mavs **** AD pretty hard

There are exactly 2 people to blame here, Nico and AD.
Nico for pulling off the ridiculous trade, AD for coming into the season in this shape, last year wasn't his fault, he was trying to help, this year, he knew what's at state, and he came totally unprepared.

It really doesn't matter who's fault is. AD is in incredibly difficult situation, nobody wants him here, part of fans openly hate him, team is not going anywhere with him...He has a family, which has to be moved overnight too. He knows he will be traded sooner or later, it's far better for him to demand a trade and have some influence where he goes.

It's a toxic situation, which should be resolved as soon as possible, waiting another year won't solve anything. It's the best for both parties to part away. Mavs luckily got Flagg in all this saga, all things considered if they got few firsts too, they should be reasonably happy. Just imagine what would have happened if those 1.8% didn't bring Flagg?

Yes, but to use the phrase Mavs *** him is patently false, it was his dear friend Nico and his own doing that created this toxic situation.
I still remember the Arena gushing in his 1st game against Houston, Nico uses this as example for his "vision", it wasn't, since that Houston team had no shooters and once they went double big they almost won the game, but it was an example of the fan base trying to welcome him.
He came in this season fat and out of shape, after Nico made all arrangements to play him at the 4 even though the roster was screaming he needs to play the 5, and as a result he strained his calf.

[Bob8]

There are exactly 2 people to blame here, Nico and AD.
Nico for pulling off the ridiculous trade, AD for coming into the season in this shape, last year wasn't his fault, he was trying to help, this year, he knew what's at state, and he came totally unprepared.

It really doesn't matter who's fault is. AD is in incredibly difficult situation, nobody wants him here, part of fans openly hate him, team is not going anywhere with him...He has a family, which has to be moved overnight too. He knows he will be traded sooner or later, it's far better for him to demand a trade and have some influence where he goes.

It's a toxic situation, which should be resolved as soon as possible, waiting another year won't solve anything. It's the best for both parties to part away. Mavs luckily got Flagg in all this saga, all things considered if they got few firsts too, they should be reasonably happy. Just imagine what would have happened if those 1.8% didn't bring Flagg?

Yes, but to use the phrase Mavs *** him is patently false, it was his dear friend Nico and his own doing that created this toxic situation.
I still remember the Arena gushing in his 1st game against Houston, Nico uses this as example for his "vision", it wasn't, since that Houston team had no shooters and once they went double big they almost won the game, but it was an example of the fan base trying to welcome him.
He came in this season fat and out of shape, after Nico made all arrangements to play him at the 4 even though the roster was screaming he needs to play the 5, and as a result he strained his calf.

Nico was Mavs at the time of the trade. Owner and coaching staff approved trade too. I doubt very much that he wanted to be moved in Dallas in the middle of the season and being part of Luka's trade. It's true that Lakers **** him too, but it's difficult to say no for deal like that. Nico's vision, which was Mavs vision at that time was the main culprit.

Yes fans tried, but we're talking about current situation, where nobody wants him and it must be incredibly difficult for AD. That's why I don't believe he will or should stay for another year. And I don't believe Mavs can get more for him in 1 year time. He's not motivated and with his injury history, the most likely scenario is another injury. Tanking or better to say continuing to play bad will be a lot easier without him too. I'm sure Kyrie will gladly agree to start playing few months later.

[Darren]

AD knows being out of shape and injury-prone, he will get traded. You can smell AD dislikes Coop from the welcoming message. AD is really not a good defender at 4. That's the source of the problem. If AD can guard multiple positions with range, the Mavs won't suck so hard.

[Darren]

The Mavs is not functioning as a team partially due to lacking playmaker. The other problem is aging.

[Bob8]

The Mavs is not functioning as a team partially due to lacking playmaker. The other problem is aging.

It's not only lack of playmaker, problem is that vast majority of players can't create anything. Too many role players, who can't do anything alone. That roster could work only with Luka, who was the whole system. Without him you need multiple balhandlers and better Iso players.

[Mr B]

Do you guys really think we get multiple 1st round picks? I doubt it.

At the end of the day we get empty cap guys like white with expering contracts.

I think a couple of things will have to happen for the Mavs to get multiple 1st round picks. AD needs to get back on the court and show that he’s healthy. Also there needs to be at least 2 teams that want him.

[Mr B]

These are exactly the pqckages I prefer to keep AD over.
I think AD will push for the Clippers, Ballmer ks desperate and will promise him an extention.

Clippers have nothing interesting for us. Nothing.

I know, but it's Klutch, they get their way...

I think when AD is traded there will be at least 3 teams involved.

[MassimoPayne]

The value of AD doesn't get higher if he is back on the court. Everyone knows that he will be injured again.

BTW i don't think we are tradeing before 15th of december because this is the date when the signed free agents are trade eligable

[daoneandonly]

The value of AD doesn't get higher if he is back on the court. Everyone knows that he will be injured again.

BTW i don't think we are tradeing before 15th of december because this is the date when the signed free agents are trade eligable

Probably right, but hate another month of seeing him or having him on the roster. I have enough soft things like pillows, towels, blankets, and toilet paper in my life

[41Dirk41]

Street clothes will ever has a value (for sure not for a Doncic trade but that's another problem hahahahaha), NBA world like him and he has a lot of connection with other players.

Guys like Steph, LeBron, Harden or other USA team will always push for him.

Trade him is not easy for the contract obviously but it's not hard at all. He is not even too old.
His reputation around the league is still here. Fans hate him more than NBA experts (i mean a lot of people said that Dallas won the trade).

Keep calm and wait for the right offers. Absolutely not like Doncic.

[Super Cooper]

We can debate ad nosism whether to wait or trade AD immediately. IMO, that depends on the ideal AD bag. That may mean waiting until Dec 15th, but I don't think that means waiting until AD's camp is happy. They will keep his camp informed (unlike Nico did) because that's the way you do business. AD never found a permanent residence in DFW, which was smart lol. His Bel Aire mansion is his permanent residence.

The major risk is that AD is a depreciating asset. The league knows who he is. I've done a 180 (or 360 as Kidd once said) on waiting to trade him. I see no reason to put him on the court again in a Mavs kit.