Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Bob8]

Pride leads to stupid decision, trading Luka was a power play, not for basketball improvement.
I think LeBron was open to coming to Dallas, his statement when FA started was a call for teams to field offers, I think the offer never came, he wouldn't expect to listen to Fire Nico, he's LeBron James, his name carries a lot of weight and if Nico was to bring him, he would have been heralded.

Yes I can imagine fans being ecstatic getting 41 years LeBron and then him missing first 14 games because of sciatica.

Oh it would have been a disaster, AD, LeBron, Lively and Kyrie out on the sidelines while the team starts 3-12, but no one knew that at the time.

35 years old LeBron could have carried that roster, 41 years old LeBron couldn't. He's not a Pg anymore, he's still good at some things but he can't run a team by himself. (He's far better fit in Lakers.) He might have considered coming here, if Kyrie was healthy, but he isn't.

[Mr B]

Still can't believe some people thought Nico did good with this one. It's actually amazing how bad he is even after 10 years.

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I have never liked DLo and never thought it was a good idea to bring him in. There is a reason he’s failed everywhere he’s been.

[Super Cooper]

Still can't believe some people thought Nico did good with this one. It's actually amazing how bad he is even after 10 years.

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I have never liked DLo and never thought it was a good idea to bring him in. There is a reason he’s failed everywhere he’s been.

I was high on DLo after that great season in BRK, but since then has been an empty stat, loser player.

There's a reason he was available for the Mavs at such a low cost. Sometimes you have to NOT think you're smarter than everyone else. Nico should never again think he's smarter than ANYONE #hubris

[41Dirk41]

I eat a crow with D-Lo... But i didn't expect this clown. What a waste of roster spot.

[Super Cooper]

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Good points.

IMO any PG traded for will be a big PG who is a POA defender (and hopefully young). Candidates...

1. Dyson Daniels ATL, 22yo, 6'-7"... is perfect, but ATL isn't letting him go, especially with how he's running their offense with Trey out. The perfect match with Kyrie. Great match with Max.

2. Isiah Collier UTA, 21yo, 6'-4"... great team defender (all the tools to be an elite POA--Derrick White starter kit), attacks the basket, nice distributor, but I'd worry about his high usage paired with Kyrie, but Kyrie jelled with Luka. Great match with Max.

3. Davion Mitchell MIA, 27yo, 6'-0"... elite POA defender, excellent distributor, low volume shooter. Good match with Kyrie. Good match with Max.

4. Ryan Rollins MIL, 23yo, 6'-3"... good team defender (not POA), young, shooting 40.4% from 3, is dropping dimes on a high rate. Not a great match with Kyrie. OK match with Max, but would be lacking in athleticism.

5. Immanuel Quickly TOR, 26yo, 6'-2"... solid POA defender, elite team defender, good distributor, ok shot selection and scoring. Because of size, not a great match with Kyrie. Great match with Max

6. Jrue Holiday POR, 35yo, 6'-4"... Still an elite POA, nice distributor when needed, but scoring is down. IMO, would be a nice fit with Kyrie. I'm not totally for it, but I could see the FO going after Jrue. Great match with Max.

7. Coby White, 25yo, 6'-4"... average defender, efficient and prolific scorer, more of a combo guard. Poor match with Kyrie defensively. OK match with Max (would need POA defender).

8. Jose Alvarado... elite POA defender, really good distributor, lacks size and scoring. Because of size, not a great match with Kyrie. Great match with Max.

9. LaMelo Ball CHA, 24yo, 6'-7"... elite distributor, opportunist defender in help and passing lanes, below average defender otherwise, terrible shot selection but prolific scorer, durability issues. With coaching perhaps the shot selection would improve (look at PJ as an example) and would need an elite POA guard paired with him. Terrible match with Kyrie. Not a great match with Max. Would need an elite POA SG.


Keepers at all costs:

a. Cooper/PJ... IMO are the core going forward. While Cooper probably can become an elite POA, I'd rather get that from a guard and let PJ and Cooper wreck both wings and stretch bigs.


Probably Keepers:

b. Kyrie... unless there is a deal you can't refuse, Kyrie will be here after the TDL. I'm big on sitting Kyrie the rest of the year for team tank.

c. Max... dependable and consistent shooter and team defender. Lacks elite athleticism. He could be a go-forward piece as a second string SG.

d. Gaff... he's coveted by many teams and has a decent contract. He could be a go-forward piece with a shooting C (like Kessler).

e. Naji... unique distribution and midrange game. Good defender. He could be a go-forward piece as Cooper's backup.

f. BWill... dude is a blur, can score, but has terrible court vision. He could be a go-forward piece as a 6th man.

g. Cisse... instant energy and athleticism. He needs a roster spot.

h. Nembhard... elite distributor, good team and on the ball defender, low volume shooter, good catch and shooter, undersized. He could be a go-forward backup like Quickley in NYK and McBride.


Trade:

i. AD... I say trade him as soon as you get decent value. He's not coming off a serious injury (like Kyrie) so the league knows his baseline abilities now. I'm scared to death to play him and end up with a season/career ending injury.

j. Klay... has value on a contender. Trade ASAP.

k. Martin... would probably need to be paired with a more valuable piece to undo Nico's idiocy. Trade once a deal is available.

l. DLo... terrible fit, but at his price tag, may be valuable to another team. Trade ASAP.

m. Hardy... needs to be featured in team tank. If he proves he can be an efficient shooter at a higher volume, he'll have great value in a trade.

n. DLive... I say put a fork in his Mavs' future and feature him in team tank (if he ever gets healthy). If surgery is needed, you really have no choice but to sit him, hope for recovery, and trade next year.

[41Dirk41]

"It was surprising more than anything," Davis said. "Nico's my guy. Obviously, he played a huge part of getting me here and wanting me to fulfill his vision."

This is a really moron. The entire fanbase just hate you. Don't make things worse. Come on.

[arkuo]

The tricky part with rebuilding this thing is you're existing in the same era as this iteration of the OKC Thunder. And as they develop and progress, those guys get even better year on year. And like the 96 Bulls, chances are you won't be winning anything. 2nd place in the NBA is still the first loser IMO. Albeit the best loser among that bunch, I'm sure you get my point.

[41Dirk41]

The tricky part with rebuilding this thing is you're existing in the same era as this iteration of the OKC Thunder. And as they develop and progress, those guys get even better year on year. And like the 96 Bulls, chances are you won't be winning anything. 2nd place in the NBA is still the first loser IMO. Albeit the best loser among that bunch, I'm sure you get my point.

It's hard to build a perennial contender with 3 max players with the new CBA, they will do a lot of tough choices in next years.

For sure they are very good and young. But not so easy win 4/5/6 ring with this group.

[Super Cooper]

The tricky part with rebuilding this thing is you're existing in the same era as this iteration of the OKC Thunder. And as they develop and progress, those guys get even better year on year. And like the 96 Bulls, chances are you won't be winning anything. 2nd place in the NBA is still the first loser IMO. Albeit the best loser among that bunch, I'm sure you get my point.

It's hard to build a perennial contender with 3 max players with the new CBA, they will do a lot of tough choices in next years.

For sure they are very good and young. But not so easy win 4/5/6 ring with this group.

Good point. Their roster next year is $246,151,772!
Chet Holmgren $41,500,000
Jalen Williams $41,500,000
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander $40,806,150
Isaiah Hartenstein $28,500,000
Alex Caruso $19,550,160
Luguentz Dort $18,222,222
Isaiah Joe $11,323,006
Aaron Wiggins $9,224,300
Jaylin Williams $7,774,648
Cason Wallace $7,420,806
Kenrich Williams $7,163,000
Nikola Topić $5,429,760
Thomas Sorber $4,887,720
Ajay Mitchell $2,850,000

[Super Cooper]

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Good points.

IMO any PG traded for will be a big PG who is a POA defender (and hopefully young). Candidates...

1. Dyson Daniels ATL, 22yo, 6'-7"... is perfect, but ATL isn't letting him go, especially with how he's running their offense with Trey out. The perfect match with Kyrie. Great match with Max.

2. Isiah Collier UTA, 21yo, 6'-4"... great team defender (all the tools to be an elite POA--Derrick White starter kit), attacks the basket, nice distributor, but I'd worry about his high usage paired with Kyrie, but Kyrie jelled with Luka. Great match with Max.

3. Davion Mitchell MIA, 27yo, 6'-0"... elite POA defender, excellent distributor, low volume shooter. Good match with Kyrie. Good match with Max.

4. Ryan Rollins MIL, 23yo, 6'-3"... good team defender (not POA), young, shooting 40.4% from 3, is dropping dimes on a high rate. Not a great match with Kyrie. OK match with Max, but would be lacking in athleticism.

5. Immanuel Quickly TOR, 26yo, 6'-2"... solid POA defender, elite team defender, good distributor, ok shot selection and scoring. Because of size, not a great match with Kyrie. Great match with Max

6. Jrue Holiday POR, 35yo, 6'-4"... Still an elite POA, nice distributor when needed, but scoring is down. IMO, would be a nice fit with Kyrie. I'm not totally for it, but I could see the FO going after Jrue. Great match with Max.

7. Coby White, 25yo, 6'-4"... average defender, efficient and prolific scorer, more of a combo guard. Poor match with Kyrie defensively. OK match with Max (would need POA defender).

8. Jose Alvarado... elite POA defender, really good distributor, lacks size and scoring. Because of size, not a great match with Kyrie. Great match with Max.

9. LaMelo Ball CHA, 24yo, 6'-7"... elite distributor, opportunist defender in help and passing lanes, below average defender otherwise, terrible shot selection but prolific scorer, durability issues. With coaching perhaps the shot selection would improve (look at PJ as an example) and would need an elite POA guard paired with him. Terrible match with Kyrie. Not a great match with Max. Would need an elite POA SG.


Keepers at all costs:

a. Cooper/PJ... IMO are the core going forward. While Cooper probably can become an elite POA, I'd rather get that from a guard and let PJ and Cooper wreck both wings and stretch bigs.


Probably Keepers:

b. Kyrie... unless there is a deal you can't refuse, Kyrie will be here after the TDL. I'm big on sitting Kyrie the rest of the year for team tank.

c. Max... dependable and consistent shooter and team defender. Lacks elite athleticism. He could be a go-forward piece as a second string SG.

d. Gaff... he's coveted by many teams and has a decent contract. He could be a go-forward piece with a shooting C (like Kessler).

e. Naji... unique distribution and midrange game. Good defender. He could be a go-forward piece as Cooper's backup.

f. BWill... dude is a blur, can score, but has terrible court vision. He could be a go-forward piece as a 6th man.

g. Cisse... instant energy and athleticism. He needs a roster spot.

h. Nembhard... elite distributor, good team and on the ball defender, low volume shooter, good catch and shooter, undersized. He could be a go-forward backup like Quickley in NYK and McBride.


Trade:

i. AD... I say trade him as soon as you get decent value. He's not coming off a serious injury (like Kyrie) so the league knows his baseline abilities now. I'm scared to death to play him and end up with a season/career ending injury.

j. Klay... has value on a contender. Trade ASAP.

k. Martin... would probably need to be paired with a more valuable piece to undo Nico's idiocy. Trade once a deal is available.

l. DLo... terrible fit, but at his price tag, may be valuable to another team. Trade ASAP.

m. Hardy... needs to be featured in team tank. If he proves he can be an efficient shooter at a higher volume, he'll have great value in a trade.

n. DLive... I say put a fork in his Mavs' future and feature him in team tank (if he ever gets healthy). If surgery is needed, you really have no choice but to sit him, hope for recovery, and trade next year.

I really like Collier for Mavs PG. What would Ainge want for a Collier/Kessler package?