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Post#1821 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:08 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Absolutely want giannis. At the end of the day this is a star’s league. If giannis still wants the Knicks then you best believe he’ll be a Knick. KAT + Hart works or we can do KAT + Mikal. Either way a trio of Brunson, OG and Giannis is pretty much unstoppable.


See my post above, let me know what you think. I say we keep Josh/Mikal (keeps Brunson happy), let OG and KAT go for Giannis. Elevate Deuce to starting SG, Giannis plays 4 and defends the best front court match up.

I think you need to keep OG no matter what. Peep this bro. He’s basically the key to our success.
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Damn. I don't wanna trade Mikal but this is irrefutable. You're right, we gotta keep OG.

Brunson/Deuce/Hart/OG/Giannis
Kolek/Clarkson/Shamet/Yabu/Mitch

Hmm. We'd still need a wing. Too bad Diawara is so raw offensively. We might have taken live with it if he be a plus defender
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1822 » by robillionaire » Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:18 pm

We won the last 3 without OG, looks like he’s more expendable than previously thought. Mitch is now coming off the bench 15 mpg every other game so we won’t miss him that much. AD is working his way back. It’s happening for sure folks
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1823 » by spree8 » Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:45 pm

robillionaire wrote:We won the last 3 without OG, looks like he’s more expendable than previously thought. Mitch is now coming off the bench 15 mpg every other game so we won’t miss him that much. AD is working his way back. It’s happening for sure folks



AD is dealing with achilles and calf issues (related)… we shouldn’t be looking in this guys direction at all. He’s 33 years old.. one wrong move and his career is over.. he’s not coming back from an achilles injury at this stage, especially given his history. He’s due 175m over 3 seasons… that would destroy us
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1824 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Nov 30, 2025 12:44 am

robillionaire wrote:We won the last 3 without OG, looks like he’s more expendable than previously thought. Mitch is now coming off the bench 15 mpg every other game so we won’t miss him that much. AD is working his way back. It’s happening for sure folks


2 of those 3 were Charlotte and Brooklyn. OG can't be traded
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1825 » by sol537 » Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:33 am

NY Trades: KAT, Mitch, Deuce, Yabu
LAC Trades: Leonard, Zubac, Jones

Zubac / Huk
Leonard / Hart
OG / Jones
Bridges / Clarkson
JB / Kolek

Who says no? 2-year window with Leonard then he drops and we still have a core of Zubac/OG/Bridges/JB and Hart which is pretty elite. We ain't winning with Kat... though with a roll of the dice, if Kawhi is healthy, we can win with Kawhi...
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1826 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:18 am

sol537 wrote:NY Trades: KAT, Mitch, Deuce, Yabu
LAC Trades: Leonard, Zubac, Jones

Zubac / Huk
Leonard / Hart
OG / Jones
Bridges / Clarkson
JB / Kolek

Who says no? 2-year window with Leonard then he drops and we still have a core of Zubac/OG/Bridges/JB and Hart which is pretty elite. We ain't winning with Kat... though with a roll of the dice, if Kawhi is healthy, we can win with Kawhi...

I’ve looked at their roster too. I think we’re better with Towns, or at least I want to see some more of Kawhi first. In the real world, this trade will never happen anyway. Kawhi wanted to go back home and they found illegal ways together to make it happen. They’re never trading him, I’m sure they can’t.
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Post#1827 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:21 am

I want to keep wing stop together, at almost any cost. Both guys have been elite.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1828 » by rajajackal » Sun Nov 30, 2025 10:39 am

the trade is kat, youth, and picks for giannis. giannis asks out to facilitate that. the core is set besides kat, we're not trading one of the wings
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Post#1829 » by spree8 » Sun Nov 30, 2025 6:55 pm

rajajackal wrote:the trade is kat, youth, and picks for giannis. giannis asks out to facilitate that. the core is set besides kat, we're not trading one of the wings



Lemme get them Powerball numbers for tomorrow while you’re at it :P
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Post#1830 » by rajajackal » Sun Nov 30, 2025 6:58 pm

spree8 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:the trade is kat, youth, and picks for giannis. giannis asks out to facilitate that. the core is set besides kat, we're not trading one of the wings



Lemme get them Powerball numbers for tomorrow while you’re at it :P

i'm not saying the trade is going to happen. i'm saying that's the trade you make if you're nyk. no reason to pay more than that
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1831 » by sol537 » Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:20 pm

At minimum, Giannis would take KAT + OG or KAT + Mikal. Bucks wouldn't just give him away for KAT and scraps.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1832 » by spree8 » Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:31 pm

rajajackal wrote:
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rajajackal wrote:the trade is kat, youth, and picks for giannis. giannis asks out to facilitate that. the core is set besides kat, we're not trading one of the wings



Lemme get them Powerball numbers for tomorrow while you’re at it :P

i'm not saying the trade is going to happen. i'm saying that's the trade you make if you're nyk. no reason to pay more than that



We’d be extremely fortunate to land Giannis at all as he’d be the best player to ever wear this uniform.

That being said, we probably aren’t going to get him lol.

We really don’t have any leverage in this scenario and he’s not doing his part if he truly wants to be here. Even if he stepped up his effort to get out in the offseason, I just don’t see him being able to convince his FO to deal with only us. If he did, and they agreed, I doubt they’d be ok with just KAT.

Our young players aren’t appealing at all in a deal like this, and we don’t have any picks to really give them unless we landed somebody good in this upcoming draft and they want the rights… so naturally what’s left is either Mikal or OG. And as good as OG is on defense, I’d weigh contract, availability, leadership, chemistry with Jalen/Hart and better offense/still good defense, heavily and keep Mikal.

If I’m them I’d prefer Mikal too tho… I can probably convince myself I could compete with a lineup of Rollins/Green/Mikal/Towns/Myles

As long of a shot as it is we even get Giannis, I’d think logically, it’s even more of a long shot we get him with just KAT alone…
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1833 » by rajajackal » Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:40 pm

spree8 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:
spree8 wrote:

Lemme get them Powerball numbers for tomorrow while you’re at it :P

i'm not saying the trade is going to happen. i'm saying that's the trade you make if you're nyk. no reason to pay more than that



We’d be extremely fortunate to land Giannis at all as he’d be the best player to ever wear this uniform.

That being said, we probably aren’t going to get him lol.

We really don’t have any leverage in this scenario and he’s not doing his part if he truly wants to be here. Even if he stepped up his effort to get out in the offseason, I just don’t see him being able to convince his FO to deal with only us. If he did, and they agreed, I doubt they’d be ok with just KAT.

Our young players aren’t appealing at all in a deal like this, and we don’t have any picks to really give them unless we landed somebody good in this upcoming draft and they want the rights… so naturally what’s left is either Mikal or OG. And as good as OG is on defense, I’d weigh contract, availability, leadership, chemistry with Jalen/Hart and better offense/still good defense, heavily and keep Mikal.

If I’m them I’d prefer Mikal too tho… I can probably convince myself I could compete with a lineup of Rollins/Green/Mikal/Towns/Myles

As long of a shot as it is we even get Giannis, I’d think logically, it’s even more of a long shot we get him with just KAT alone…

idk. he won them a championship. if he really wants out and makes us his preferred destination, in the modern NBA it's quite likely they'll do right by him. in which case, KAT and youth + picks gets it done on paper. keeping giannis prisoner is franchise suicide for such an unsexy market as milwaukee
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Post#1834 » by sol537 » Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:49 pm

rajajackal wrote:
spree8 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:i'm not saying the trade is going to happen. i'm saying that's the trade you make if you're nyk. no reason to pay more than that



We’d be extremely fortunate to land Giannis at all as he’d be the best player to ever wear this uniform.

That being said, we probably aren’t going to get him lol.

We really don’t have any leverage in this scenario and he’s not doing his part if he truly wants to be here. Even if he stepped up his effort to get out in the offseason, I just don’t see him being able to convince his FO to deal with only us. If he did, and they agreed, I doubt they’d be ok with just KAT.

Our young players aren’t appealing at all in a deal like this, and we don’t have any picks to really give them unless we landed somebody good in this upcoming draft and they want the rights… so naturally what’s left is either Mikal or OG. And as good as OG is on defense, I’d weigh contract, availability, leadership, chemistry with Jalen/Hart and better offense/still good defense, heavily and keep Mikal.

If I’m them I’d prefer Mikal too tho… I can probably convince myself I could compete with a lineup of Rollins/Green/Mikal/Towns/Myles

As long of a shot as it is we even get Giannis, I’d think logically, it’s even more of a long shot we get him with just KAT alone…

idk. he won them a championship. if he really wants out and makes us his preferred destination, in the modern NBA it's quite likely they'll do right by him. in which case, KAT and youth + picks gets it done on paper. keeping giannis prisoner is franchise suicide for such an unsexy market as milwaukee


Our youth isn't that good and our picks are especially weak. Bucks can go to 10+ other teams and get a superior package. They won't just give the hall of famer away. KAT + OG + picks is what it would take.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1835 » by rajajackal » Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:54 pm

sol537 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:
spree8 wrote:

We’d be extremely fortunate to land Giannis at all as he’d be the best player to ever wear this uniform.

That being said, we probably aren’t going to get him lol.

We really don’t have any leverage in this scenario and he’s not doing his part if he truly wants to be here. Even if he stepped up his effort to get out in the offseason, I just don’t see him being able to convince his FO to deal with only us. If he did, and they agreed, I doubt they’d be ok with just KAT.

Our young players aren’t appealing at all in a deal like this, and we don’t have any picks to really give them unless we landed somebody good in this upcoming draft and they want the rights… so naturally what’s left is either Mikal or OG. And as good as OG is on defense, I’d weigh contract, availability, leadership, chemistry with Jalen/Hart and better offense/still good defense, heavily and keep Mikal.

If I’m them I’d prefer Mikal too tho… I can probably convince myself I could compete with a lineup of Rollins/Green/Mikal/Towns/Myles

As long of a shot as it is we even get Giannis, I’d think logically, it’s even more of a long shot we get him with just KAT alone…

idk. he won them a championship. if he really wants out and makes us his preferred destination, in the modern NBA it's quite likely they'll do right by him. in which case, KAT and youth + picks gets it done on paper. keeping giannis prisoner is franchise suicide for such an unsexy market as milwaukee


Our youth isn't that good and our picks are especially weak. Bucks can go to 10+ other teams and get a superior package. They won't just give the hall of famer away. KAT + OG + picks is what it would take.

KAT isn't chopped liver, he's just not a fit with our featured player. good consolation prize for a team losing their star to a big market and looking to pivot. the youth and picks are just to be polite about it
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1836 » by spree8 » Sun Nov 30, 2025 8:10 pm

rajajackal wrote:
spree8 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:i'm not saying the trade is going to happen. i'm saying that's the trade you make if you're nyk. no reason to pay more than that



We’d be extremely fortunate to land Giannis at all as he’d be the best player to ever wear this uniform.

That being said, we probably aren’t going to get him lol.

We really don’t have any leverage in this scenario and he’s not doing his part if he truly wants to be here. Even if he stepped up his effort to get out in the offseason, I just don’t see him being able to convince his FO to deal with only us. If he did, and they agreed, I doubt they’d be ok with just KAT.

Our young players aren’t appealing at all in a deal like this, and we don’t have any picks to really give them unless we landed somebody good in this upcoming draft and they want the rights… so naturally what’s left is either Mikal or OG. And as good as OG is on defense, I’d weigh contract, availability, leadership, chemistry with Jalen/Hart and better offense/still good defense, heavily and keep Mikal.

If I’m them I’d prefer Mikal too tho… I can probably convince myself I could compete with a lineup of Rollins/Green/Mikal/Towns/Myles

As long of a shot as it is we even get Giannis, I’d think logically, it’s even more of a long shot we get him with just KAT alone…

idk. he won them a championship. if he really wants out and makes us his preferred destination, in the modern NBA it's quite likely they'll do right by him. in which case, KAT and youth + picks gets it done on paper. keeping giannis prisoner is franchise suicide for such an unsexy market as milwaukee



When did keeping him prisoner become an option? They could just trade him elsewhere like the Spurs did Kawhi, to a team willing to take the risk.

Think about KAT on that team… they aren’t going anywhere and he’ll be able to leave the same season Giannis can in FA (after next season) leaving them with nothing if they can’t flip him elsewhere for something meaningful.

Giannis won them a title, yes, but he’s under contract, meaning they pay him 50-60m per year.. it’s not a 1 sided affair. They have ownership, the fanbase, and economic factors (local restaurants, bars, arena employees, etc) to consider as well. Giannis would be a massive loss..

They can’t rebuild since they don’t own their own picks, so you can’t ask a franchise to gift their generational star away for a particular player they could also lose a year later and who isn’t going to get them anywhere even if he stayed. That’s kinda suicide for them too as a small market.

I used to think about this the way you are.. until I realized I wasn’t seeing the whole picture. That franchise would plummet if they traded Giannis for KAT… and Dadiet n Kolek aren’t helping the case at all. Getting Mikal or OG too could at least get them to the playoffs and stay relevant…
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Post#1837 » by rajajackal » Sun Nov 30, 2025 8:21 pm

spree8 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:
spree8 wrote:

We’d be extremely fortunate to land Giannis at all as he’d be the best player to ever wear this uniform.

That being said, we probably aren’t going to get him lol.

We really don’t have any leverage in this scenario and he’s not doing his part if he truly wants to be here. Even if he stepped up his effort to get out in the offseason, I just don’t see him being able to convince his FO to deal with only us. If he did, and they agreed, I doubt they’d be ok with just KAT.

Our young players aren’t appealing at all in a deal like this, and we don’t have any picks to really give them unless we landed somebody good in this upcoming draft and they want the rights… so naturally what’s left is either Mikal or OG. And as good as OG is on defense, I’d weigh contract, availability, leadership, chemistry with Jalen/Hart and better offense/still good defense, heavily and keep Mikal.

If I’m them I’d prefer Mikal too tho… I can probably convince myself I could compete with a lineup of Rollins/Green/Mikal/Towns/Myles

As long of a shot as it is we even get Giannis, I’d think logically, it’s even more of a long shot we get him with just KAT alone…

idk. he won them a championship. if he really wants out and makes us his preferred destination, in the modern NBA it's quite likely they'll do right by him. in which case, KAT and youth + picks gets it done on paper. keeping giannis prisoner is franchise suicide for such an unsexy market as milwaukee



When did keeping him prisoner become an option? They could just trade him elsewhere like the Spurs did Kawhi, to a team willing to take the risk.

Think about KAT on that team… they aren’t going anywhere and he’ll be able to leave the same season Giannis can in FA (after next season) leaving them with nothing if they can’t flip him elsewhere for something meaningful.

Giannis won them a title, yes, but he’s under contract, meaning they pay him 50-60m per year.. it’s not a 1 sided affair. They have ownership, the fanbase, and economic factors (local restaurants, bars, arena employees, etc) to consider as well. Giannis would be a massive loss..

They can’t rebuild since they don’t own their own picks, so you can’t ask a franchise to gift their generational star away for a particular player they could also lose a year later and who isn’t going to get them anywhere even if he stayed. That’s kinda suicide for them too as a small market.

I used to think about this the way you are.. until I realized I wasn’t seeing the whole picture. That franchise would plummet if they traded Giannis for KAT… and Dadiet n Kolek aren’t helping the case at all. Getting Mikal or OG too could at least get them to the playoffs and stay relevant…

i understand where you're coming from, but i disagree. the bucks aren't the dynasty-decorated san antonio spurs. they owe giannis everything and in many ways him delivering that ring already extracted the value of his contract for them
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Post#1838 » by Nazrmohamed » Sun Nov 30, 2025 8:54 pm

spree8 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:the trade is kat, youth, and picks for giannis. giannis asks out to facilitate that. the core is set besides kat, we're not trading one of the wings



Lemme get them Powerball numbers for tomorrow while you’re at it :P


I always see comments like this and then look at other teams trades and its some combination of role players and picks. Im not trying to argue with you but it seems like only the Knicks ever have to give up the farm for players. Other teams will trade the equivalent of OG and Hart with a 1st round pick swap and some 2nds
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Post#1839 » by spree8 » Sun Nov 30, 2025 9:46 pm

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rajajackal wrote:idk. he won them a championship. if he really wants out and makes us his preferred destination, in the modern NBA it's quite likely they'll do right by him. in which case, KAT and youth + picks gets it done on paper. keeping giannis prisoner is franchise suicide for such an unsexy market as milwaukee



When did keeping him prisoner become an option? They could just trade him elsewhere like the Spurs did Kawhi, to a team willing to take the risk.

Think about KAT on that team… they aren’t going anywhere and he’ll be able to leave the same season Giannis can in FA (after next season) leaving them with nothing if they can’t flip him elsewhere for something meaningful.

Giannis won them a title, yes, but he’s under contract, meaning they pay him 50-60m per year.. it’s not a 1 sided affair. They have ownership, the fanbase, and economic factors (local restaurants, bars, arena employees, etc) to consider as well. Giannis would be a massive loss..

They can’t rebuild since they don’t own their own picks, so you can’t ask a franchise to gift their generational star away for a particular player they could also lose a year later and who isn’t going to get them anywhere even if he stayed. That’s kinda suicide for them too as a small market.

I used to think about this the way you are.. until I realized I wasn’t seeing the whole picture. That franchise would plummet if they traded Giannis for KAT… and Dadiet n Kolek aren’t helping the case at all. Getting Mikal or OG too could at least get them to the playoffs and stay relevant…

i understand where you're coming from, but i disagree. the bucks aren't the dynasty-decorated san antonio spurs. they owe giannis everything and in many ways him delivering that ring already extracted the value of his contract for them



All of this is up to their ownership… how they value that single title vs the money they’ve paid him and what they stand to lose after he’s gone. We can all have an opinion, but we’re just gunna have to wait to find out..
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Post#1840 » by spree8 » Sun Nov 30, 2025 9:50 pm

Nazrmohamed wrote:
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rajajackal wrote:the trade is kat, youth, and picks for giannis. giannis asks out to facilitate that. the core is set besides kat, we're not trading one of the wings



Lemme get them Powerball numbers for tomorrow while you’re at it :P


I always see comments like this and then look at other teams trades and its some combination of role players and picks. Im not trying to argue with you but it seems like only the Knicks ever have to give up the farm for players. Other teams will trade the equivalent of OG and Hart with a 1st round pick swap and some 2nds



The comment was more about how he said it with such conviction as if it was a foregone conclusion.

But yea, Knicks always pay a premium… dunno why but maybe it’s all the negative energy surrounding the franchise and fanbase lol.. it’s always been the case.

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