2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[greg4012]

Davion Mitchell at PG is the shortest (6'0) starting PG in the NBA

Tyler Herro at SG has the shortest wingspan (6'3) of any starting SG in the NBA

Norm Powell at SF is the shortest (6'3) starting SF in the NBA

Andrew Wiggins at PF is the lightest (196 pounds) starting PF in the NBA and is among the shorter ones.

Bam at C is among the shorter (6'9) starting Centers in the NBA.

You can't go smaller than everyone at every spot and expect to succeed in this game.

You mean the same small roster that has been running teams out of the gym?!?!?

Ok bub.

you're starting to embarrass yourself

[KingDavid]

Jovic deactivated his IG account. Sheesh man are we worse than Knicks fans now?

[heater4life]

Davion Mitchell at PG is the shortest (6'0) starting PG in the NBA

Tyler Herro at SG has the shortest wingspan (6'3) of any starting SG in the NBA

Norm Powell at SF is the shortest (6'3) starting SF in the NBA

Andrew Wiggins at PF is the lightest (196 pounds) starting PF in the NBA and is among the shorter ones.

Bam at C is among the shorter (6'9) starting Centers in the NBA.

You can't go smaller than everyone at every spot and expect to succeed in this game.

You mean the same small roster that has been running teams out of the gym?!?!?

Ok bub.

you're starting to embarrass yourself

How am I embarrassing myself when I’m promoting starting lineups that don’t have Herro in them?!?!?

And you’re posting exactly what I’m saying doesn’t work. Starting lineups with Powell and Herro in them. Especially with Herro at guard.

Post advanced metrics on our lineups pre Herro analytics boy.

[greg4012]

You mean the same small roster that has been running teams out of the gym?!?!?

Ok bub.

you're starting to embarrass yourself

How am I embarrassing myself when I’m promoting starting lineups that don’t have Herro in them?!?!?

And you’re posting exactly what I’m saying doesn’t work. Starting lineups with Powell and Herro in them. Especially with Herro at guard.

Post advanced metrics on our lineups pre Herro analytics boy.

Calling me "boy" may feel like something in attempting to validate yourself when you bring nothing else to the table or actually prove anything for yourself.

But, you just come off looking like a sad small person on the internet with a bruised ego.

I posted about the recent starting lineup of Mitchell-Herro-Powell-Wiggins-Adebayo. You specifically replied to that post saying "you mean the roster that has been running teams out of the gym?!"

If your reading comprehension is that bad, then I'm sorry that you ended up confused. But attempting to now warp the convo to fit into your cope is not compelling and is a waste of my time to engage with.



Go Heat!

[heater4life]

you're starting to embarrass yourself

How am I embarrassing myself when I’m promoting starting lineups that don’t have Herro in them?!?!?

And you’re posting exactly what I’m saying doesn’t work. Starting lineups with Powell and Herro in them. Especially with Herro at guard.

Post advanced metrics on our lineups pre Herro analytics boy.

Calling me "boy" may feel like something in attempting to validate yourself when you bring nothing else to the table or actually prove anything for yourself.

But, you just come off looking like a sad small person on the internet with a bruised ego.

I posted about the recent starting lineup of Mitchell-Herro-Powell-Wiggins-Adebayo. You specifically replied to that post saying "you mean the roster that has been running teams out of the gym?!"

If your reading comprehension is that bad, then I'm sorry that you ended up confused. But attempting to now warp the convo to fit into your cope is not compelling and is a waste of my time to engage with.



Go Heat!

Guys like you love traveling in circles. Pre Herro lineups were more effective. Herro Powell are less effective and don’t really work, especially Herro at PG (which we haven’t seen yet). Has been my argument the entire time.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Herro Powell are less effective and don’t really work, especially Herro at PG (which we haven’t seen yet). Has been my argument the entire time.

This is kind of a self own.

[greg4012]

How am I embarrassing myself when I’m promoting starting lineups that don’t have Herro in them?!?!?

And you’re posting exactly what I’m saying doesn’t work. Starting lineups with Powell and Herro in them. Especially with Herro at guard.

Post advanced metrics on our lineups pre Herro analytics boy.

Calling me "boy" may feel like something in attempting to validate yourself when you bring nothing else to the table or actually prove anything for yourself.

But, you just come off looking like a sad small person on the internet with a bruised ego.

I posted about the recent starting lineup of Mitchell-Herro-Powell-Wiggins-Adebayo. You specifically replied to that post saying "you mean the roster that has been running teams out of the gym?!"

If your reading comprehension is that bad, then I'm sorry that you ended up confused. But attempting to now warp the convo to fit into your cope is not compelling and is a waste of my time to engage with.



Go Heat!

Guys like you love traveling in circles. Pre Herro lineups were more effective. Herro Powell are less effective and don’t really work, especially Herro at PG (which we haven’t seen yet). Has been my argument the entire time.

So your argument is that something that hasn't been tried can't work with nothing to back it, despite the fact that there are countless comparable datapoints suggesting the opposite, so the best approach is to prioritize shaping the whole lineup around the immutable rule that one of Mitchell or Smith MUST be on the floor for every minute of the season?

Cool--I think you're wrong and displaying terrible immaturity in being so.

[Beenie]

Jovic deactivated his IG account. Sheesh man are we worse than Knicks fans now?

Good. Getting off social media is a step in the right direction.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Jovic deactivated his IG account. Sheesh man are we worse than Knicks fans now?

Good. Getting off social media is a step in the right direction.

Discussions on forums is one thing, attacking him personally on his ig is another.

I'm betting it's gamblers who are raging.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I mean Niko has always been kind of a clumsy goofy guy, I think its unfair to accuse him of throwing games or something. Some guys just don't have that smooth game. He is tantalizing as a prospect because theoretically he can do so much out there, but he always looks a bit out of control.

[Beenie]

Jovic deactivated his IG account. Sheesh man are we worse than Knicks fans now?

Good. Getting off social media is a step in the right direction.

Discussions on forums is one thing, attacking him personally on his ig is another.

I'm betting it's gamblers who are raging.

Maybe, but everyone gets attacked. Prime Jordan and Lebron got attacked.

I just think its a good idea for Jovic or anyone to remove themselves from the noise when they are playing horrifically bad. Subjecting themselves to the noise will likely only make things worse.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jovic deactivated his IG account. Sheesh man are we worse than Knicks fans now?

Good. Getting off social media is a step in the right direction.

Discussions on forums is one thing, attacking him personally on his ig is another.

I'm betting it's gamblers who are raging.

If you’re betting on Jovic it might be time to call the number lol

[Shewasfly]

You mean the same small roster that has been running teams out of the gym?!?!?

Ok bub.

you're starting to embarrass yourself

How am I embarrassing myself when I’m promoting starting lineups that don’t have Herro in them?!?!?

I mean, beyond what others have already called out, you are doing so by virtue of arguing to not field our best 5 players in the starting lineup. And you're doing so for the purposes of keeping a career bench player (Davion, who you keep not mentioning) in the SL. That is embarrassing in and of itself.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Read on Twitter

I think we are going to get a starting line up change. No question that the starters have looked rough the last few games.

Spo mentions on the ball, but that's just more effort from the players.

Putting us in pnr/actions. Sounds like his plan is to shore up the backline to counter. Basically conceding herro is and will continue to get hunted.

Weakside. This is a direct result of small ball. More often than not, powell is the weakside defender, but he just doesnt have the awareness, athleticism, and size to be in that spot. The weakside defender is the guy that has to come to help. There's a reason why your sf is usually the most athletic person on any unit. They have to cover the most ground. It's also why guys like bam and dray have insane value, yet are underappreciated by fans because they don't"score".

The starting unit lacks cohesion. Herro, Davion, bam and now spo have all said as much.

IMO, the only answer to that weakside comment is to have bam and wiggins flanking ware. Slow the ball up top (not stop) and try to clean it up on the backline.

[Jstock12]

Jovic deactivated his IG account. Sheesh man are we worse than Knicks fans now?

Good. Getting off social media is a step in the right direction.

Discussions on forums is one thing, attacking him personally on his ig is another.

I'm betting it's gamblers who are raging.

It's always the r-word gamblers with braindead parlays. Saw some random guy absolutely raging at another NBA player because he didn't cover the spread, even though the said player was recovering from an injury These morons don't do any research

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

I think we are going to get a starting line up change. No question that the starters have looked rough the last few games.

Spo mentions on the ball, but that's just more effort from the players.

Putting us in pnr/actions. Sounds like his plan is to shore up the backline to counter. Basically conceding herro is and will continue to get hunted.

Weakside. This is a direct result of small ball. More often than not, powell is the weakside defender, but he just doesnt have the awareness, athleticism, and size to be in that spot. The weakside defender is the guy that has to come to help. There's a reason why your sf is usually the most athletic person on any unit. They have to cover the most ground. It's also why guys like bam and dray have insane value, yet are underappreciated by fans because they don't"score".

The starting unit lacks cohesion. Herro, Davion, bam and now spo have all said as much.

IMO, the only answer to that weakside comment is to have bam and wiggins flanking ware. Slow the ball up top (not stop) and try to clean it up on the backline.

You’re right and it’s funny Bam is held in the same light of Draymond as he doesn’t “score” yet his worst season scoring since becoming a starter would be Draymonds career high by quite a bit

[twix2500]

Read on Twitter

I think we are going to get a starting line up change. No question that the starters have looked rough the last few games.

Spo mentions on the ball, but that's just more effort from the players.

Putting us in pnr/actions. Sounds like his plan is to shore up the backline to counter. Basically conceding herro is and will continue to get hunted.

Weakside. This is a direct result of small ball. More often than not, powell is the weakside defender, but he just doesnt have the awareness, athleticism, and size to be in that spot. The weakside defender is the guy that has to come to help. There's a reason why your sf is usually the most athletic person on any unit. They have to cover the most ground. It's also why guys like bam and dray have insane value, yet are underappreciated by fans because they don't"score".

The starting unit lacks cohesion. Herro, Davion, bam and now spo have all said as much.

IMO, the only answer to that weakside comment is to have bam and wiggins flanking ware. Slow the ball up top (not stop) and try to clean it up on the backline.

Dam I was on point that Spo was possibly gonna hold Jaquez out to give Jovic some burn. Jovic sho crashed and burn.

[twix2500]

You can see in the way Jovic and Herro dribble they are naturally looking for a pick instead of lanes to drive. Jovic and Herro were the two players that missed a lot of preseason time. They are both instinctively playing a different brand of basketball than the rest of the team.

[twix2500]

Former starting unit vs the Pistons
D. Mitchell - N. Powell - P. Larsson - A. Wiggins - B. Adebayo

157.9 OffRtg, 52.6 DefRtg, +81
3rd most played unit vs. Pistons at 8 mins

A unit that didn't get mins that I would like to see is,
Herro, Powell, Larsson, Wiggins and Bam

[greg4012]

Read on Twitter

I think we are going to get a starting line up change. No question that the starters have looked rough the last few games.

Spo mentions on the ball, but that's just more effort from the players.

Putting us in pnr/actions. Sounds like his plan is to shore up the backline to counter. Basically conceding herro is and will continue to get hunted.

Weakside. This is a direct result of small ball. More often than not, powell is the weakside defender, but he just doesnt have the awareness, athleticism, and size to be in that spot. The weakside defender is the guy that has to come to help. There's a reason why your sf is usually the most athletic person on any unit. They have to cover the most ground. It's also why guys like bam and dray have insane value, yet are underappreciated by fans because they don't"score".

The starting unit lacks cohesion. Herro, Davion, bam and now spo have all said as much.

IMO, the only answer to that weakside comment is to have bam and wiggins flanking ware. Slow the ball up top (not stop) and try to clean it up on the backline.

Great post--you bring up a compelling point in terms of the function of the SF/athletic wing on defense. Currently playing into Powells defensive weaknesses in addition to Herro's.