Image ImageImage Image

Around The NBA : 2025-26

Moderators: HomoSapien, GimmeDat, AshyLarrysDiaper, coldfish, RedBulls23, Michael Jackson, Ice Man, Tommy Udo 6 , kulaz3000, fleet, DASMACKDOWN

Ice Man
Forum Mod - Bulls
Forum Mod - Bulls
Posts: 27,311
And1: 16,360
Joined: Apr 19, 2011

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#761 » by Ice Man » Wed Dec 3, 2025 12:21 pm

Zion ... now *that's* basketball hell. Never healthy enough to lead your team for anything more than a drink of water, but you're perpetually planning around him, awaiting the day that will not arrive.

If the Pelicans offered him for a year's worth of Portillo dogs, I wouldn't take him.
User avatar
DASMACKDOWN
Forum Mod - Bulls
Forum Mod - Bulls
Posts: 30,588
And1: 15,807
Joined: Nov 01, 2001
Location: Cookin' with Derrick Rose

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#762 » by DASMACKDOWN » Wed Dec 3, 2025 12:37 pm

Ice Man wrote:Zion ... now *that's* basketball hell. Never healthy enough to lead your team for anything more than a drink of water, but you're perpetually planning around him, awaiting the day that will not arrive.

If the Pelicans offered him for a year's worth of Portillo dogs, I wouldn't take him.


Im sure there must be some solid data to support how detrimental it is to hitch yourself to an oft injured superstar.

Embiid, AD, Zion, Kawhi

To go into every season not knowing if they will play 55-60 games. No back to backs. Even in a playoff scenario, how long till they break down. Its just a mess. They go into the season with kid gloves and it still means nothing.

I know as a franchise, you have to sign them if they are a superstar but man its tough.
User avatar
DASMACKDOWN
Forum Mod - Bulls
Forum Mod - Bulls
Posts: 30,588
And1: 15,807
Joined: Nov 01, 2001
Location: Cookin' with Derrick Rose

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#763 » by DASMACKDOWN » Wed Dec 3, 2025 12:50 pm

Also I think OKC has a chance to break 73 wins.

As much as people think the West is a gauntlet, OKC is so much better than anyone in either conference.

The only thing that will slow them down is multiple injuries.

But if relatively healthy, I only see a few tough losses against top teams. Maybe some more dog day schedule losses in Jan or March. Maybe a game or two where SGA is resting.

I can see them getting 74-8
User avatar
prolific passer
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,247
And1: 1,500
Joined: Mar 11, 2009
     

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#764 » by prolific passer » Wed Dec 3, 2025 8:43 pm

Ice Man wrote:Zion ... now *that's* basketball hell. Never healthy enough to lead your team for anything more than a drink of water, but you're perpetually planning around him, awaiting the day that will not arrive.

If the Pelicans offered him for a year's worth of Portillo dogs, I wouldn't take him.

Zion never wanted to join the pels in the first place after the AD debacle. He will take his time coming back unless he's traded to a better situation.
jordanwilliams6
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,243
And1: 3,850
Joined: Nov 01, 2018
 

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#765 » by jordanwilliams6 » Thu Dec 4, 2025 3:25 am

It looks like Zach has fully checked out. I’m not sure where the Kings go from here with him.

18 minutes and 2 points?
User avatar
Chicagoat
Rookie
Posts: 1,030
And1: 1,043
Joined: Jan 12, 2017
 

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#766 » by Chicagoat » Thu Dec 4, 2025 4:06 am

Blazers won and have the easiest strength of schedule remaining. Season just started and we are 20 games in but something to keep an eye on.
AKME? More like MEAK with how they're afraid to make a move to push us in one direction.

Continuity :banghead: :banghead:
Dan Z
RealGM
Posts: 18,772
And1: 9,321
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
Location: Chicago
 

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#767 » by Dan Z » Fri Dec 5, 2025 12:30 am

For the season Deni Avdija is averaging 25.8 points, 7.1 rebounds, 6.2 assists and shooting .474 FG

It's interesting how one draft mistake can affect a team going forward.
Dan Z
RealGM
Posts: 18,772
And1: 9,321
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
Location: Chicago
 

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#768 » by Dan Z » Fri Dec 5, 2025 12:31 am

jordanwilliams6 wrote:It looks like Zach has fully checked out. I’m not sure where the Kings go from here with him.

18 minutes and 2 points?


They go....nowhere?

I might offer Zach and picks for AD, but I bet Dallas says no. And realistically the Kings need to rebuild.
drosestruts
General Manager
Posts: 9,284
And1: 4,378
Joined: Apr 05, 2012
 

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#769 » by drosestruts » Fri Dec 5, 2025 2:25 pm

The NBA provided a good reminder last night that blown leads are not a uniquely Chicago thing, it's happening damn near every night in almost every game in the NBA.

Sixers were up by 22 at half time and won by 1-point (VJ hit a go ahead shot, followed by the best full court pass i've seen in a long time from Buddy Hield but, Maxey made a game winning block)

Lakers led by double digits at times but in the end required a game-winning shot from Rui after Toronto took the lead.

Nets were up double digits in the 2nd half just to get outscored by 22 in the 4th and lose to the Jazz

In the NBA in 2025 - no lead is safe.
User avatar
Red Larrivee
RealGM
Posts: 42,575
And1: 19,523
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Location: Hogging Microphone Time From Tom Dore

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#770 » by Red Larrivee » Fri Dec 5, 2025 3:00 pm

drosestruts wrote:The NBA provided a good reminder last night that blown leads are not a uniquely Chicago thing, it's happening damn near every night in almost every game in the NBA.

Sixers were up by 22 at half time and won by 1-point (VJ hit a go ahead shot, followed by the best full court pass i've seen in a long time from Buddy Hield but, Maxey made a game winning block)

Lakers led by double digits at times but in the end required a game-winning shot from Rui after Toronto took the lead.

Nets were up double digits in the 2nd half just to get outscored by 22 in the 4th and lose to the Jazz

In the NBA in 2025 - no lead is safe.


Yeah, the Bulls aren't even among the league leaders for the most blown double-digit leads.

A 15 point lead in today's NBA isn't anything. The three-point shot and increased pace of play has made big leads a lot more vulnerable. A few threes, and you're right back in it.
jnrjr79
Head Coach
Posts: 6,954
And1: 4,164
Joined: May 27, 2003
Location: Chicago

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#771 » by jnrjr79 » Fri Dec 5, 2025 3:14 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
drosestruts wrote:The NBA provided a good reminder last night that blown leads are not a uniquely Chicago thing, it's happening damn near every night in almost every game in the NBA.

Sixers were up by 22 at half time and won by 1-point (VJ hit a go ahead shot, followed by the best full court pass i've seen in a long time from Buddy Hield but, Maxey made a game winning block)

Lakers led by double digits at times but in the end required a game-winning shot from Rui after Toronto took the lead.

Nets were up double digits in the 2nd half just to get outscored by 22 in the 4th and lose to the Jazz

In the NBA in 2025 - no lead is safe.


Yeah, the Bulls aren't even among the league leaders for the most blown double-digit leads.

A 15 point lead in today's NBA isn't anything. The three-point shot and increased pace of play has made big leads a lot more vulnerable. A few threes, and you're right back in it.


You've gotta have double digit leads to blow them. :lol:
Ice Man
Forum Mod - Bulls
Forum Mod - Bulls
Posts: 27,311
And1: 16,360
Joined: Apr 19, 2011

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#772 » by Ice Man » Yesterday 12:33 pm

I'm putting Lonzo for Okoro in the same trade category as Snell for MCW - Who cares? I don't care about Okoro being on this team, or not on this team, or whatever. He's just not a meaningful player. And Lonzo, yikes, has a 42% TS% on the year, making only 25 out of 94 3-point attempts.
MrSparkle
RealGM
Posts: 23,540
And1: 11,321
Joined: Jul 31, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#773 » by MrSparkle » Yesterday 2:45 pm

Ice Man wrote:I'm putting Lonzo for Okoro in the same trade category as Snell for MCW - Who cares? I don't care about Okoro being on this team, or not on this team, or whatever. He's just not a meaningful player. And Lonzo, yikes, has a 42% TS% on the year, making only 25 out of 94 3-point attempts.


Honestly I just preferred to have the cap space and minutes for Noa and the other scrubs, however bad they are. So yeah, adding $11M to 2028 was detrimental I think. Cavs being an apron team should’ve sent a 2nd rd’er or something for the expiring relief.

Reminds me of when the Bulls traded Rose’s expiring for RoLo. The expiring money is better than the player’s salary!
Hangtime84
RealGM
Posts: 21,158
And1: 4,793
Joined: Aug 18, 2006
Location: Rogers Park
     

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#774 » by Hangtime84 » Yesterday 3:18 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
Ice Man wrote:I'm putting Lonzo for Okoro in the same trade category as Snell for MCW - Who cares? I don't care about Okoro being on this team, or not on this team, or whatever. He's just not a meaningful player. And Lonzo, yikes, has a 42% TS% on the year, making only 25 out of 94 3-point attempts.


Honestly I just preferred to have the cap space and minutes for Noa and the other scrubs, however bad they are. So yeah, adding $11M to 2028 was detrimental I think. Cavs being an apron team should’ve sent a 2nd rd’er or something for the expiring relief.

Reminds me of when the Bulls traded Rose’s expiring for RoLo. The expiring money is better than the player’s salary!


I don't know our cap situation after the next season (mainly because depends on what we do this off season), but i figured they want some cap expirings for the following season.

Smith and Okoro contracts will be up.
Jcool0 wrote:
aguifs wrote:Do we have a friggin plan?


If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.


NBA fan logic we need to trade one of two best players because (Player X) one needs to shine more.
Dan Z
RealGM
Posts: 18,772
And1: 9,321
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
Location: Chicago
 

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#775 » by Dan Z » Yesterday 11:54 pm

I'm curious, so I looked up Lonzo Balls stats.

He has played in 18 out of 24 games so far. His FG% is .299 and 3pt% .266 (5.2 attempts per game). He averages 5.5 pts, 4.6 rebounds, and 4.9 assists. 23.6 minutes per game.

I haven't watched him play, but based on those stats it look like his bricks quite often. Is he still not 100% healthy? Or is he rusty? Or is this who he is now?
Dan Z
RealGM
Posts: 18,772
And1: 9,321
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
Location: Chicago
 

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#776 » by Dan Z » Today 12:00 am

Hangtime84 wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:
Ice Man wrote:I'm putting Lonzo for Okoro in the same trade category as Snell for MCW - Who cares? I don't care about Okoro being on this team, or not on this team, or whatever. He's just not a meaningful player. And Lonzo, yikes, has a 42% TS% on the year, making only 25 out of 94 3-point attempts.


Honestly I just preferred to have the cap space and minutes for Noa and the other scrubs, however bad they are. So yeah, adding $11M to 2028 was detrimental I think. Cavs being an apron team should’ve sent a 2nd rd’er or something for the expiring relief.

Reminds me of when the Bulls traded Rose’s expiring for RoLo. The expiring money is better than the player’s salary!


I don't know our cap situation after the next season (mainly because depends on what we do this off season), but i figured they want some cap expirings for the following season.

Smith and Okoro contracts will be up.


I didn't realize you guys were talking about Lonzo (until now). I just made a post about his stats.

I agree that I'd rather have cap space than Okoro, but I don't think his 11 million next year will matter much.

The deal AK should've done was Lonzo for Marcus Smart and a first (which I think was offered to the Bulls but turned down...?).

If Lonzo doesn't improve his shot do the Cavs turn down the club option for next year (it's 10 million)?
MrSparkle
RealGM
Posts: 23,540
And1: 11,321
Joined: Jul 31, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#777 » by MrSparkle » Today 12:17 am

Dan Z wrote:
Hangtime84 wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:
Honestly I just preferred to have the cap space and minutes for Noa and the other scrubs, however bad they are. So yeah, adding $11M to 2028 was detrimental I think. Cavs being an apron team should’ve sent a 2nd rd’er or something for the expiring relief.

Reminds me of when the Bulls traded Rose’s expiring for RoLo. The expiring money is better than the player’s salary!


I don't know our cap situation after the next season (mainly because depends on what we do this off season), but i figured they want some cap expirings for the following season.

Smith and Okoro contracts will be up.


I didn't realize you guys were talking about Lonzo (until now). I just made a post about his stats.

I agree that I'd rather have cap space than Okoro, but I don't think his 11 million next year will matter much.

The deal AK should've done was Lonzo for Marcus Smart and a first (which I think was offered to the Bulls but turned down...?).

If Lonzo doesn't improve his shot do the Cavs turn down the club option for next year (it's 10 million)?


I think they’ll disregard reg. season and see how helpful he is in post-season. But if he plays like crap in April and May, then I see them waiving the option. Lots of luxury savings.
User avatar
DASMACKDOWN
Forum Mod - Bulls
Forum Mod - Bulls
Posts: 30,588
And1: 15,807
Joined: Nov 01, 2001
Location: Cookin' with Derrick Rose

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#778 » by DASMACKDOWN » Today 2:10 am

Zach is on one tonight. 29 pts at halftime.
User avatar
Dominator83
RealGM
Posts: 21,340
And1: 32,656
Joined: Jan 16, 2005
Location: NBA Hell

Re: Around The NBA : 2025-26 

Post#779 » by Dominator83 » Today 6:37 am

Dan Z wrote:
Hangtime84 wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:
Honestly I just preferred to have the cap space and minutes for Noa and the other scrubs, however bad they are. So yeah, adding $11M to 2028 was detrimental I think. Cavs being an apron team should’ve sent a 2nd rd’er or something for the expiring relief.

Reminds me of when the Bulls traded Rose’s expiring for RoLo. The expiring money is better than the player’s salary!


I don't know our cap situation after the next season (mainly because depends on what we do this off season), but i figured they want some cap expirings for the following season.

Smith and Okoro contracts will be up.


I didn't realize you guys were talking about Lonzo (until now). I just made a post about his stats.

I agree that I'd rather have cap space than Okoro, but I don't think his 11 million next year will matter much.

The deal AK should've done was Lonzo for Marcus Smart and a first (which I think was offered to the Bulls but turned down...?).

If Lonzo doesn't improve his shot do the Cavs turn down the club option for next year (it's 10 million)?

Cap space doesn't matter for us. There aren't any game-changing unrestricted free agents hitting the market anytime soon, and we never ever take bad salary in exchange for draft compensation. Were too cheap and we don't value draft capital.
Fantasy Hoops/Football/Baseball fans..

For info on a forum that actually talks Fantasy sports and not spammed with soliciting leagues, PM me. The more the merrier !

Return to Chicago Bulls