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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1001 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 5, 2025 5:52 pm

Him out of the east would be nice.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1002 » by yosemiteben » Fri Dec 5, 2025 7:18 pm

fatlever wrote:If you guys had to rank your top five most likely destinations for Giannis who are you going with?

If I'm MIL, I'm prioritizing picks and young players. If they do something like swapping for KAT, they aren't getting better anytime soon. No player for player swap they can realistically get will outperform Giannis.

Ranking from MIL perspective if Giannis isn't picky (ignores salary filler / non-needle movers):

(1) Houston - Sengun + picks
(2) Miami - Ware + Herro + picks
(3) Toronto - Barnes + Dick + picks
(4) Utah - Markannen + picks
(5) San Antonio - Harper + Vassell + Johnson + picks

Houston and Utah trades would probably just be to flip for more picks.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1003 » by fatlever » Fri Dec 5, 2025 7:31 pm

Sadly it will probably be to Lakers for Reaves, expiring and a pick or 2.

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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1004 » by KingCat » Yesterday 4:54 am

fatlever wrote:Sadly it will probably be to Lakers for Reaves, expiring and a pick or 2.

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Honestly I hope they do it cause it will make their title chances worse in the long run. Giannis has low key become incredibly injury prone the last few years, especially during playoff time. The idea of LeBron, Luka, and Giannis completing a playoff run is comical.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1005 » by Diop » Yesterday 9:34 am

I forgot Memphis got 4 firsts for Bane! Christ Orlando, what were you thinking?

Memoiis should be in a decent situation after the Ja trade
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1006 » by Diop » Yesterday 9:36 am

yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:If you guys had to rank your top five most likely destinations for Giannis who are you going with?

If I'm MIL, I'm prioritizing picks and young players. If they do something like swapping for KAT, they aren't getting better anytime soon. No player for player swap they can realistically get will outperform Giannis.

Ranking from MIL perspective if Giannis isn't picky (ignores salary filler / non-needle movers):

(1) Houston - Sengun + picks
(2) Miami - Ware + Herro + picks
(3) Toronto - Barnes + Dick + picks
(4) Utah - Markannen + picks
(5) San Antonio - Harper + Vassell + Johnson + picks

Houston and Utah trades would probably just be to flip for more picks.

If youth is going to be tough to get, or Knicks becomes the known front runner I would go for Bridges and Kat, make knicks take some other big salary to make it work.

Disregard it would have to be OG instead of Bridges and the apron kills it.

If they decide to stay ok and try for playoffs as it can be better fiscally for teams, I would go Greek, Portis for KAT, Hart and Washington pick (which is just gonna be 2 seconds but including even a fake first makes deals seem more legit)

Deuce McBride has been playing well for knicks, I would probably swap him for one of the guards I don’t want.

Turner and KAT are an interesting pairing, Hart is a very solid role player.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1007 » by Braggins » Yesterday 4:24 pm

Let him cook!

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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1008 » by luciano-davidwesley » Today 1:09 am

Braggins wrote:Let him cook!

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"It’s evident that Borrego’s first directive has been to run, and the numbers confirm the visual shift. The Pelicans have been 4th in pace in the 11 games Borrego has coached thus far, up from 26th in the previous 12 under Green. The transition frequency has skyrocketed from 23rd to 5th! The seconds per offensive possession are down virtually across the board no matter the possessions start type."

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He's absolutely killing it. 1-12 with a highlight blow-out loss to Brooklyn.

I don’t get the nostalgia around this guy. He couldn't stop water coming out of a tap.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1009 » by Liver_Pooty » Today 1:49 am

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
Braggins wrote:Let him cook!

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"It’s evident that Borrego’s first directive has been to run, and the numbers confirm the visual shift. The Pelicans have been 4th in pace in the 11 games Borrego has coached thus far, up from 26th in the previous 12 under Green. The transition frequency has skyrocketed from 23rd to 5th! The seconds per offensive possession are down virtually across the board no matter the possessions start type."

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He's absolutely killing it. 1-12 with a highlight blow-out loss to Brooklyn.

I don’t get the nostalgia around this guy. He couldn't stop water coming out of a tap.


Agreed. I do think he didn’t deserve to be fired when we did can him however.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#1010 » by Braggins » Today 3:00 am

I can very easily explain why I'm nostalgic for Borrego.

Hornets last five seasons

2021/2022 ~ Borrego ~ 43 wins ~ 8th ORTG / 4th ppg ~ 5th pace
2022/2023 ~ Clifford ~ 27 wins ~ 30th ORTG / 27th ppg ~ 9th pace
2023/2024 ~ Clifford ~ 21 wins ~ 28th ORTG / 28th ppg ~ 22nd pace
2024/2025 ~ Lee ~~~~ 19 wins ~ 29th ORTG / 30th ppg ~ 23rd pace
2025/2026 ~ Lee ~~~~ 7 wins** ~ 20th ORTG / 21st ppg ~ 22nd pace

** ~ 7-16 current record

I think hes the best coach the Hornets have had in the 13 or so seasons Ive been following them. I also think Jay Triano was the best assistant in that span. I'm rooting for Borrego to succeed in New Orleans.

I think the way he has changed how New Orleans plays is interesting because it is similar to what he did in Charlotte and could be a positive sign for the future. I don't blame him for taking over a 2-10 team featuring 19 year old Jeremiah Fears and not turning them into a winning team in a few weeks.
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Post#1011 » by luciano-davidwesley » Today 3:16 am

There's being a winning team and there's going 1-12 lol.

I think i nice bit of context is required too. Borrego had a lot better injury luck than Clifford and Lee and that was before Miles Bridges decided to destroy his life and waste a season.
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Post#1012 » by Braggins » Today 3:39 am

I don't think Borrego is a miracle worker or necessarily an elite coach or anything. I suspect hes good enough to deserve one of the 30 head coaching jobs in the league. I also just like the way he coaches and appreciate that he got the Hornets to be competitive and fun to watch.

I always felt bad for him because I think the way he got fired in Charlotte was unfair and put a stink on him that set his career back significantly.

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