Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Super Cooper]

Ya, not sure if there's a worse injury for bigs than feet. The human body is not supposed be that large, especially in the rigors of basketball and the muscle mass weight. Bones are bones. There is no gym exercise to strengthen bones. IMO, this reason makes Joker's dominance that much more impressive; dude laces them up every game... with the ultimate dad bod.

Big guys having feet issues is. Or a career gender though. There’s a chance that Lively could end up on a team with a great training staff and he’s able to get through this. I want to say it was Kurt Thomas who had a ton of feet issues when he was traded to the Mavs. He ended up signing with the Knicks as a free agent and had a daily long and productive career.

There are many bigs who never recover: Yao, Walton, Radojevic. To your point, there are some who overcame foot problems: Parrish,
Boogie, and Al Jefferson.

Knowing there are success stories and with DLive's upside, I really think teams who can afford to sit him and get the proper treatment would trade value for DLive.

[Mr B]

Ya, not sure if there's a worse injury for bigs than feet. The human body is not supposed be that large, especially in the rigors of basketball and the muscle mass weight. Bones are bones. There is no gym exercise to strengthen bones. IMO, this reason makes Joker's dominance that much more impressive; dude laces them up every game... with the ultimate dad bod.

Big guys having feet issues is. Or a career gender though. There’s a chance that Lively could end up on a team with a great training staff and he’s able to get through this. I want to say it was Kurt Thomas who had a ton of feet issues when he was traded to the Mavs. He ended up signing with the Knicks as a free agent and had a daily long and productive career.

There are many bigs who never recover: Yao, Walton, Radojevic. To your point, there are some who overcame foot problems: Parrish,
Boogie, and Al Jefferson.

Knowing there are success stories and with DLive's upside, I really think teams who can afford to sit him and get the proper treatment would trade value for DLive.

I agree that they should look to trade him however like with AD his value is super low. It might be best to resign him to a cheap deal, allow him to remind people he can play, and then trade him. The Mavs might be better off waiting until the off season (prior to the draft) to trade both Lively and AD (unless they get a great offer at the deadline of course).

[Mr B]

Flagg, PJ and Christie is great 2,3 and 4 group.

If PJ or Flagg can play at the 3... I hope Coop because PJ is mediocre at best in that spot.

I agree. I see Cooper more of a SF now and will be more of a PF as his career progresses. This is a common transition for many starting their careers as a big SF when their wheels aren't what they used to be.

Dirk took the same route.

[Mr B]

I still feel like there is a trade to be had with OKC. It makes sense that they would want to trade the picks for a “difference making vet”. They want to win another title now. Even if it’s not for AD the Mavs have a couple players that could help them make d they can make it work cap wise.

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[Super Cooper]

I still feel like there is a trade to be had with OKC. It makes sense that they would want to trade the picks for a “difference making vet”. They want to win another title now. Even if it’s not for AD the Mavs have a couple players that could help them make d they can make it work cap wise.

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If I'm OKC I'd want Naji. He's a dynamic they really don't have at forward, other than JDub of course.

[arkuo]

Yeah I'd give the next 6 seasons to OKC too. Just have them win anything they can. Better them than the Lakers, Spurs or Knicks. Once that era passes, they'll be on a decline after. In which case guys like Brunson and Luka should be out or almost out of the league. Then Cooper's time comes in. If Wemby's body is still intact by then, it will be Mavs v Spurs for another era.

[Teffer10]

I still feel like there is a trade to be had with OKC. It makes sense that they would want to trade the picks for a “difference making vet”. They want to win another title now. Even if it’s not for AD the Mavs have a couple players that could help them make d they can make it work cap wise.

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If we are low teens and Clips pick is top 5, Mavs should offer OKC their pick and Lively for the Clips pick.

[Super Cooper]

I still feel like there is a trade to be had with OKC. It makes sense that they would want to trade the picks for a “difference making vet”. They want to win another title now. Even if it’s not for AD the Mavs have a couple players that could help them make d they can make it work cap wise.

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If we are low teens and Clips pick is top 5, Mavs should offer OKC their pick and Lively for the Clips pick.

If any team could afford to take a risk for DLive, it's OKC. He'd be a perfect gamble for them.

[Mr B]

I still feel like there is a trade to be had with OKC. It makes sense that they would want to trade the picks for a “difference making vet”. They want to win another title now. Even if it’s not for AD the Mavs have a couple players that could help them make d they can make it work cap wise.

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If we are low teens and Clips pick is top 5, Mavs should offer OKC their pick and Lively for the Clips pick.

If any team could afford to take a risk for DLive, it's OKC. He'd be a perfect gamble for them.

Sign me up. Like I said even if it’s not a big trade involving AD there has to be a trade where the Mavs can get one of those picks. Lively, Naji, Gafford, or even Klay could help OKC.

[Michaellam1987]

Better to wait to see how Kyrie perform first, before doing any big trade.

KI/Max/Flagg/PJ/AD actually is quite balanced on everything, may be exception on below average 3 point shooting on the forward position, and also overall below average rebounding.

[Mavrelous]

I was listenning to the Dunc'd On podcast and they said they view AD next year as negative value, in the context of whether Chicagonshould trade for him, seems like this isn't exactly outlier opinion.
Given Lively injury, Flagg looking great and not having picks, I value winning with AD more than have 8th worst record in the league, to me it's obvious, play it out.

[41Dirk41]

Negative value is absurd unless he will torn ACL or a leg. Come on.

[Mavrelous]

Negative value is absurd unless he will torn ACL or a leg. Come on.

I agree it's over the top, but I don't think teams are willing to pay the price of all NBA and DPOY level player because of age and injury history, in which case I'd rather roll the dice myself.

[Archx]

Negative value is absurd unless he will torn ACL or a leg. Come on.

I agree it's over the top, but I don't think teams are willing to pay the price of all NBA and DPOY level player because of age and injury history, in which case I'd rather roll the dice myself.

But if Mavs want to play it out, you know what that means, right? The more he plays the higher chances are he'll get injured again and further tank his value.
We know Mavs won't go anywhere this year and maybe even next year. Who knows how AD/Kyrie will even look like. But this talk about him being negative value, etc, i think is mostly because of his wild contract. And the fact that his agent already said they'll will want max no matter where he ends up if he's traded. And his max will apparently be at 70M+ as 34/35yo.

[Mavrelous]

Negative value is absurd unless he will torn ACL or a leg. Come on.

I agree it's over the top, but I don't think teams are willing to pay the price of all NBA and DPOY level player because of age and injury history, in which case I'd rather roll the dice myself.

But if Mavs want to play it out, you know what that means, right? The more he plays the higher chances are he'll get injured again and further tank his value.
We know Mavs won't go anywhere this year and maybe even next year. Who knows how AD/Kyrie will even look like. But this talk about him being negative value, etc, i think is mostly because of his wild contract. And the fact that his agent already said they'll will want max no matter where he ends up if he's traded. And his max will apparently be at 70M+ as 34/35yo.

I mean, right now, his value is expiring contracts and a 1st, and not a great one at that, at this valuation, I'd totally risk him getting injured, the upside of him being available far outweighs this 1st, the cost is only Addleson's money wasted, I count that as a blessing...

[Archx]

I agree it's over the top, but I don't think teams are willing to pay the price of all NBA and DPOY level player because of age and injury history, in which case I'd rather roll the dice myself.

But if Mavs want to play it out, you know what that means, right? The more he plays the higher chances are he'll get injured again and further tank his value.
We know Mavs won't go anywhere this year and maybe even next year. Who knows how AD/Kyrie will even look like. But this talk about him being negative value, etc, i think is mostly because of his wild contract. And the fact that his agent already said they'll will want max no matter where he ends up if he's traded. And his max will apparently be at 70M+ as 34/35yo.

I mean, right now, his value is expiring contracts and a 1st, and not a great one at that, at this valuation, I'd totally risk him getting injured, the upside of him being available far outweighs this 1st, the cost is only Addleson's money wasted, I count that as a blessing...

On the other hand, anything that can free up Mavs cap is good. There probably won't be much bidding for AD but i guess it won't be THAT bad either.

[Mavrelous]

But if Mavs want to play it out, you know what that means, right? The more he plays the higher chances are he'll get injured again and further tank his value.
We know Mavs won't go anywhere this year and maybe even next year. Who knows how AD/Kyrie will even look like. But this talk about him being negative value, etc, i think is mostly because of his wild contract. And the fact that his agent already said they'll will want max no matter where he ends up if he's traded. And his max will apparently be at 70M+ as 34/35yo.

I mean, right now, his value is expiring contracts and a 1st, and not a great one at that, at this valuation, I'd totally risk him getting injured, the upside of him being available far outweighs this 1st, the cost is only Addleson's money wasted, I count that as a blessing...

On the other hand, anything that can free up Mavs cap is good. There probably won't be much bidding for AD but i guess it won't be THAT bad either.

Doubt Mavs will have cap space the next 2 years, with or w/o AD, I don't think it matters that much.

[Archx]

I mean, right now, his value is expiring contracts and a 1st, and not a great one at that, at this valuation, I'd totally risk him getting injured, the upside of him being available far outweighs this 1st, the cost is only Addleson's money wasted, I count that as a blessing...

On the other hand, anything that can free up Mavs cap is good. There probably won't be much bidding for AD but i guess it won't be THAT bad either.

Doubt Mavs will have cap space the next 2 years, with or w/o AD, I don't think it matters that much.

Well... extensions are coming up, you forgot about that? And on top of that, 1st round pick rookies also count money. So, it will be quite challenging to navigate all of that.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/cap/_/year/2026

Most noticeable Nembhard and Williams. I doubt they'll want to let both go just like that. And then after next season, you have Christie in his final year as PO, which he'll probably decline and also other pieces, Naji, Lively (whatever they decide to do with him), etc... And we know they can't afford to go into luxury anymore due to penalties.

[Mavrelous]

On the other hand, anything that can free up Mavs cap is good. There probably won't be much bidding for AD but i guess it won't be THAT bad either.

Doubt Mavs will have cap space the next 2 years, with or w/o AD, I don't think it matters that much.

Well... extensions are coming up, you forgot about that? And on top of that, 1st round pick rookies also count money. So, it will be quite challenging to navigate all of that.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/cap/_/year/2026

Most noticeable Nembhard and Williams. I doubt they'll want to let both go just like that. And then after next season, you have Christie in his final year as PO, which he'll probably decline and also other pieces, Naji, Lively (whatever they decide to do with him), etc... And we know they can't afford to go into luxury anymore due to penalties.

They should go to luxury tax, Dumont boasted in the same conference where he said championship games he wants a 3rd max player.
Addleson's pockets are the least of my worries and if they start hurting the team to save money, I'm sure the fan base will just shut up and won't raise hell and hurt their business.

[Bob8]

I agree it's over the top, but I don't think teams are willing to pay the price of all NBA and DPOY level player because of age and injury history, in which case I'd rather roll the dice myself.

But if Mavs want to play it out, you know what that means, right? The more he plays the higher chances are he'll get injured again and further tank his value.
We know Mavs won't go anywhere this year and maybe even next year. Who knows how AD/Kyrie will even look like. But this talk about him being negative value, etc, i think is mostly because of his wild contract. And the fact that his agent already said they'll will want max no matter where he ends up if he's traded. And his max will apparently be at 70M+ as 34/35yo.

I mean, right now, his value is expiring contracts and a 1st, and not a great one at that, at this valuation, I'd totally risk him getting injured, the upside of him being available far outweighs this 1st, the cost is only Addleson's money wasted, I count that as a blessing...

AD might not be worth much, but just imagine how much he will worth in 2 years time and new extension? Not controlling any of next 4 years picks and your 2 superstars don't worth anything is not exactly situation you want around Flagg.