Livan Hernandez

Post #1 » by **Worm Guts** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:02 pm

We signed him to a one year deal. He seems like he can decent when motivated. Hopefully he hasn't ballooned up to 400 pounds.

Post #2 » by **kg2005** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:01 pm

Can you say "washed up veteran who has nothing left"?

The Puck · Post #3 » by **The Puck** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:07 pm

1 Year deal for 5 million plus a possible 2 million in incentives must mean they think he's got something left in the tank.

slinky · Post #4 » by **slinky** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:18 pm

its really not that much money, and actually a pretty good deal, when you compare the salaries of recent multi-year deals like carlos silva's

Carlos Silva 4/ $48 million
13 - 14 202IP 1.31 WHIP 4.19ERA 20Quality Starts 89K's

Livan Hernandez 1/ $5 million

11-11 204IP 1.60 WHIP 4.93 ERA 19 Quality Starts 90 K's

Based on ERA and WHIP, carlos is the superior pitcher, but Silva's salary this year is twice that of hernandez. Does anyone think that Silva is twice as good as hernandez?

It seems like Bill Smith got a bargain in comparison to the apparent market value of starting pitching.

Post #5 » by **kg2005** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:42 pm

Yeah, but did we need starting pitching?
Guys without options left:
Baker, Bonser, Humber
Guys with too much talent to be in AAA:
Slowey, Liriano

Post #6 » by **Klomp** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:53 am

I like the deal. I could possibly see Liriano work his way back in the bullpen.

Baker
Bonser
Hernandez
Slowey
Humber

Thats only from your list Dont think theres anyone else is there?

Post #7 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:52 am

klomp44 wrote:I like the deal. I could possibly see Liriano work his way back in the bullpen.

If Liriano is healthy, he's starting.

Post #8 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:24 pm

A lot of people dump on Livan because his peripherals suck and he

Post #9 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:40 am

Humber's a nice guy and I wish him well, but he's shown me nothing to indicate he's ready to be a fulltime starter. I wouldn't be surprised to see Humber in your pen at the start of the year. And, don't get me wrong, I wish him well. before his surgury he was a top prospect.

but as far as your rotation this year, I'd be surprised if Humber pitches well enough to be in your 5.

slinky · Post #10 » by **slinky** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:53 pm

this was in LEN3 blog a couple of days ago.

Phil Humber has one more option left.

When a player