Bynum vs Yao

[SDChargers#1]

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Skill....

Bynum doesn't have the type of skill Yao does, Bynum is basically a less athletic version of Dwight Howard and Amare.

And you said that Kaman and Amare got abused by Bynum, then how come right now Amare and Kaman are putting up better numbers, and most likely close to all star selections...


Your just a hometown fan that bases everyone solely on stats...How about Tim Duncan? Tim Duncan is a 20 and 10 player as well, and about KG, hes also a legitimate 20 and 10 player, will people say in the future "wow Bynum has progressed so much, I think he is better then Duncan, Yao, KG".
Yao is more skilled, is about 7-8 inches taller, and has made a name for himself among NBA big men. Bynum will be a 20 and 10 player, but everyone is trying to say here that Yao just has more skill, and Bynum well looks like a player that will ultimately wash up after his athletic form fades away.

Ugh, you aren't listening. I have never said, and will not say that Bynum is better or more skillful than Yao right now. Yao is the best C in the league right now. We are talking about the FUTURE.

A less athletic version of Amare and Dwight? Yea a little, but he is also 2 inches taller than Dwight and 4 inches taller than Amare. His wingspan also dwarfs theirs and is close to 7'8''. Oh yea, and he is already 20 lbs heavier than Dwight and 35 lbs bigger than Amare. And his hands are just as good.

Yao is not 7-8 inches taller, he is about 5 inches taller.

The thing with Bynum is that he is already putting up 10 rpg. In a couple of years it isn't out of the question to see him putting up 13-15 rpg. And I hope that he gets compared to KG and Duncan. Is that supposed to be some kind of insult. I would take both of those guys over Yao.

[NO-KG-AI]

His Wingspan isn't 7'8, sounds like when everyone thought Dwight's was 7'8 and it is 7'4.....

Oh, and he's not 20 pounds heavier than Dwight, Dwight is at least 20 pounds over his listed 265, and Bynum after dropping weight is below his 285....

[SDChargers#1]

His Wingspan isn't 7'8, sounds like when everyone thought Dwight's was 7'8 and it is 7'4.....

Oh, and he's not 20 pounds heavier than Dwight, Dwight is at least 20 pounds over his listed 265, and Bynum after dropping weight is below his 285....

Well I just go by what NBA.com tells me. Im not there to actually weigh them.

But based on what I have seen Bynum's wingspan is bigger than Dwight's.

[NO-KG-AI]

Well, I should start putting together all the "facts" that various Laker fans are putting out.

So far I've got:

1)He has a 7'8 Wingspan

2)He is 7'2

3)and he recorded a better vertical than Dwight Howard.

If I piece this all together, his arm should be about at the shot clock with every dunk.

[SDChargers#1]

Well, I should start putting together all the "facts" that various Laker fans are putting out.

So far I've got:

1)He has a 7'8 Wingspan

2)He is 7'2

3)and he recorded a better vertical than Dwight Howard.

If I piece this all together, his arm should be about at the shot clock with every dunk.

I'm pretty sure his wingspan and height are within an inch of those said. And the guy who said he record a better vertical than Dwight already admitted he was wrong, and that he meant to say that they were comparable.

You want to put a list together of all the things that the haters have said in this thread.

1) Bynum will one day be good.

2) Bynum only goes up against 2nd stringers

3) Bynum had more basketball experience than Yao coming into the NBA (this one is my favorite)

4) Bynum will never pass Yao (I love the use of Crystal Balls in this forum)

People forget this conversation is about POTENTIAL. There are very few players in the league who have potential that is greater than Bynum's.

Hell you act like we are a bunch of fanboys. ESPN "experts" have said that they would take Andrew Bynum RIGHT NOW over Jason Kidd. Not future, but RIGHT NOW. Many of you are discounting how good Bynum is playing right now.

Laker fans have a lot to be excited about right now when it comes to Bynum. Physically he has an advantage over every player in the league not name Yao (and then only in height). He is putting up 13/10/2 in 28 mpg where the team is rarely even feeding him the ball. Could you imagine how many points he would be putting up if the Lakers fed him the ball like a 2nd option? Oh yea, and he is only 20.

[Baller 24]

Well, I should start putting together all the "facts" that various Laker fans are putting out.

So far I've got:

1)He has a 7'8 Wingspan

2)He is 7'2

3)and he recorded a better vertical than Dwight Howard.

If I piece this all together, his arm should be about at the shot clock with every dunk.

I'm pretty sure his wingspan and height are within an inch of those said. And the guy who said he record a better vertical than Dwight already admitted he was wrong, and that he meant to say that they were comparable.

You want to put a list together of all the things that the haters have said in this thread.

1) Bynum will one day be good.

2) Bynum goes up against 2nd stringers

3) Bynum had more basketball experience than Yao coming into the NBA (this one is my favorite)

4) Bynum will never pass Yao (I love the use of Crystal Balls in this forum)

People forget this conversation is about POTENTIAL. There are very few players in the league who have potential that is greater than Bynum's.

Hell you act like we are a bunch of fanboys. ESPN "experts" have said that they would take Andrew Bynum RIGHT NOW over Jason Kidd. Not future, but RIGHT NOW. Many of you are discounting how good Bynum is playing right now.

Laker fans have a lot to be excited about right now when it comes to Bynum. Physically he has an advantage over every player in the league not name Yao (and then only in height). He is putting up 13/10/2 in 28 mpg where the team is rarely even feeding him the ball. Could you imagine how many points he would be putting up if the Lakers fed him the ball like a 2nd option? Oh yea, and he is only 20.

Well Im not hating on Bynum, I reallly do like him, and I've seen him play many times this season. He is going to be a great player one day, I'm just here to defend Yaoo...

[SDChargers#1]

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Well Im not hating on Bynum, I reallly do like him, and I've seen him play many times this season. He is going to be a great player one day, I'm just here to defend Yaoo...

Well we are just going to have to agree to disagree. But I am looking forward to next year at this time having another heated discussion.

[kookie_819]

I honestly like Bynum, and hope he'll have a great future, but I hope he turns out to be a bust just to piss off the Lakers homers in here... my god... comparing him to Yao already is just absurd...

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bynum can't be a bust. he was the 10th pick in the draft is arguably the best bigman of the draft already and should have realistically been picked as high as the top 3.

[TooNice00]

laker fans can only hope bynum becomes a top 3 center at best. expecting or believing anymore than that is just wishful thinking.

[SabasRevenge!]

1. Comparing Bynum's FG% to Yao's doesn't mean that Bynum is a more effective offensive player or a better shooter. Bynum's FG% is due largely to him being an above average offensive rebounder who hangs out around the basket and hasn't had to play starter minutes. He gets a lot of buckets on putbacks and dunks - very high percentage shots. Yao, on the other hand, is a very capable scorer in the paint with an array of moves. He's can also take his man away from the bucket with his range. Yao takes many more shots than Bynum and is expected to be the number one option on a team without McGrady and is a 1a or 1b with McGrady. Bynum is... not a number 1 option and defenses aren't keying on him. Yao is flat our a much better offensive player. I can't even understand the comparisons on that end of the floor by someone who has ever watched Yao in action. He does some pretty amazing things for a guy who's 7'6".

2. The comparison of their head to head matchups this season looks pretty telling.

3. The Rockets defensive numbers with Yao are also very telling; that poster made an excellent point about Yao's defense. Some people have an obsession with individual numbers, but IMO a team's overall effectiveness with that player on the floor is much more important.

4. I agree with a previous poster: Yao on the Lakers with Kobe is immediate championship contender (perhaps favorite) material. I don't think many would disagree with that. Bynum on the Rockets, especially with McGrady hurt is high lottery. If I'm Kupchak, I trade Bynum and almost whatever the hell else the Rockets want for Yao, not that Houston would do it.

5. Andrew Bynum is 20 years old. Isn't it premature to be comparing him to a top 2 or maybe 3 center? I know homers tend to overvalue their players and believe their man will be the next Shaq with a skyhook and Russell-like defense, but it ain't happening. It's been a good month for Andrew but lets not get carried away here.

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if i'm starting a franchise and i had to pick between yao and bynum, i'll take the 20 year old. others may want the veteran, but i'd rather build around youth like the trailblazers. why be good for 10 years (yao) when you can be good for 15?

if i had any choice, i'd obviously take dwight.

[Baller 24]

if i'm starting a franchise and i had to pick between yao and bynum, i'll take the 20 year old. others may want the veteran, but i'd rather build around youth like the trailblazers. why be good for 10 years (yao) when you can be good for 15?

if i had any choice, i'd obviously take dwight.

But what if your looking to win a championship NOW? Blazers are built around a group of young players, Bynum well isn't around a group of player like that.
Just think about it:
Roy- top 10 selection - penetrator/scorer
Oden- Number 1 pick - big man inside
Aldridge- 2nd pick - big man inside
Jack- first round pick - penetrator
Webster- top 5 pick - 3 point scorer
Frye- 1st rounder - big man inside

As you can see they have a bunch of core young players..they are hot right now, but when it comes time to play in the playoffs, it will be very tough with no experience.

[Baller 24]

1. Comparing Bynum's FG% to Yao's doesn't mean that Bynum is a more effective offensive player or a better shooter. Bynum's FG% is due largely to him being an above average offensive rebounder who hangs out around the basket and hasn't had to play starter minutes. He gets a lot of buckets on putbacks and dunks - very high percentage shots. Yao, on the other hand, is a very capable scorer in the paint with an array of moves. He's can also take his man away from the bucket with his range. Yao takes many more shots than Bynum and is expected to be the number one option on a team without McGrady and is a 1a or 1b with McGrady. Bynum is... not a number 1 option and defenses aren't keying on him. Yao is flat our a much better offensive player. I can't even understand the comparisons on that end of the floor by someone who has ever watched Yao in action. He does some pretty amazing things for a guy who's 7'6".

2. The comparison of their head to head matchups this season looks pretty telling.

3. The Rockets defensive numbers with Yao are also very telling; that poster made an excellent point about Yao's defense. Some people have an obsession with individual numbers, but IMO a team's overall effectiveness with that player on the floor is much more important.

4. I agree with a previous poster: Yao on the Lakers with Kobe is immediate championship contender (perhaps favorite) material. I don't think many would disagree with that. Bynum on the Rockets, especially with McGrady hurt is high lottery. If I'm Kupchak, I trade Bynum and almost whatever the hell else the Rockets want for Yao, not that Houston would do it.

5. Andrew Bynum is 20 years old. Isn't it premature to be comparing him to a top 2 or maybe 3 center? I know homers tend to overvalue their players and believe their man will be the next Shaq with a skyhook and Russell-like defense, but it ain't happening. It's been a good month for Andrew but lets not get carried away here.

Good post.

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But what if your looking to win a championship NOW?

then you take yao. duh.

[Smills91]

what happened to your hawes > bynum stuff?

Is that your attempt to imply that Bynum > Yao? That is what this thread is about.

[teamny1]

And Yao has more skill? His height has NOTHING to do with it?

Seriously if Yao was 7'0 and 260 he would probably average 28 and 14 with 3-4 assists and 2.5-3 blocks per game. He'd be truly amazing with the amount of skill in his jumper and his post game. He'd be much more coordinated and wouldn't have a problem with small defenses fronting him. He'd have a more stable position than he currently has since his center of gravity is more ordinary compared to his defenders(hence not having a problem with small defenses).

And no, skill has nothing to do with height. Or are you saying Manute Bol is more skilled than Allen Iverson?

[G-Heel]

LOL @ this thread. Bynum is doing really well in 28 minutes, but c'mon... be serious.

Before you compare numbers, don't forget, Bynum's numbers may be a little inflated.
Lakers = 107 PPG
Rocket = 95 PPG

Yao is light-year ahead on offense. Can't even argue that. I honestly doubt Bynum will ever come close to Yao in term of offense.
Yao is currently better on defense. You can argue, but it doesn't matter, because it's true. At best, Bynum will match Yao's defensive values.

So wth is this thread about? Bring it back in 6 years or so, when Yao is about 33 and Bynum at 26.

I like Bynum but you guys are overrating him too much. Why not compare him to prime Shaq, or Wilt, or KAJ, or Russell? Why bother comparing him to Yao?

My guesses for next thread is: Fisher vs. Kidd, or Farmar vs. Chris Paul, Coby Karl = Larry Bird.

[SabasRevenge!]

LOL @ this thread.

Bring it back in 6 years or so, when Yao is about 33 and Bynum at 26.

I like Bynum but you guys are overrating him too much. Why not compare him to prime Shaq, or Wilt, or KAJ, or Russell? Why bother comparing him to Yao?

My guesses for next thread is: Fisher vs. Kidd, or Farmar vs. Chris Paul, Coby Karl = Larry Bird.

In the Bynum/Oden thread it was actually Shaq with KAJ's skyhook. Get your facts straight, mister.

Just so you all know, Brandon Roy will be the next MJ with Wilt's height, Magic's passing, and... Justin Gatling's speed! It's inevitable that we're all a little homerish towards our guys, but come on now.

[tnayrbrocks]

I will take Yao every day of the week and then maybe Bynum in 5 years. Yao's skillset surpasses Bynum's and it isn't even close. A majority of Bynum's points come from pick and rolls and his ability to run with his arms up. Bynum will never have Yao's jumpshot, which at 7'5 is pretty hard to stop.

O, and he plays with a guy named Kobe Bryant who's teammates numbers become better unless your name is Lamar Odom.

Bynum will be very very good, and the Lakers would be lucky if he ever reached Yao's level.