Game 43: Hoston @ Detroit // Sun. 6.30pm on ESPN

princeofpalace · Post #181 » by **princeofpalace** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:11 am

BDM22 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

For some reason, Flip has been playing him off the ball starting with that Boston game (He played a little more on the ball against Dallas because it was garbage time). It's obvious Flip just doesn't trust him, so he's giving the ball to either wing veteran (Prince or Rip) who is on the floor at the time. It completely negates Stuckey's game which is all based on attacking off the dribble. And neither Prince or Rip can get the offense running smoothly, so the team struggles.

Another case of a young guy not being used properly.

We disagree on this. Flip has been playing Stuckey off the ball for the last two games but in both games Tayshaun was acting as point forward. IMO-Tay is more effective with the ball in his hands and Tay having possesion of the ball has been a major factor in him starting to play more aggresively. It has less to do with Flip not trusting Stuckey and more to do with needing to find ways to make Tay more effective offensively.

Stuckey doesnt really play off the ball with Rip, its just that Stuckey has a tendency to overdribble and no one gets open for him except for Rip who usually connects on his drives.

When Stuckey is acting as a full point (especially with Afflalo out there too), he really is not getting anythng done out thre. Its only his 11th or so game, so Im sure in time he will be able to run the offense but right now he just isnt there.

Glad Detroit pulled off the win, hopefully they can go to New York and win tommorow

Dirtgrain · Post #182 » by **Dirtgrain** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:14 am

BDM22 wrote:Another case of a young guy not being used properly.

Stuckey's going to have to show his coach that he can make a layup. He looks really young out there. Maybe he's having a hard time adjusting to the size and speed of players around the basket? Still, based on summer and pre-season, I was expecting more from him. His hand might be bothering him. My game struggles when my off-hand is injured. But also, I think his head isn't right. He needs to mentally adjust and toughen up, get some confidence (and Flip is so good at building confidence in rookies).

Dirtgrain · Post #183 » by **Dirtgrain** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:18 am

Did you all see the close-up on Stuckey's hand? Dang I didn't realize it was that bad (three metal pins, I think Blaha said).

bstein14 · Post #184 » by **bstein14** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:19 am

With Washington beating Boston tonight (in Boston) we pull within 3 games of them.

Nice to finally see Boston face some adversity.

7r5ur · Post #185 » by **7r5ur** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:28 am

princeofpalace wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

We disagree on this. Flip has been playing Stuckey off the ball for the last two games but in both games Tayshaun was acting as point forward. IMO-Tay is more effective with the ball in his hands and Tay having possesion of the ball has been a major factor in him starting to play more aggresively. It has less to do with Flip not trusting Stuckey and more to do with needing to find ways to make Tay more effective offensively.

And the Pistons have gotten worse as a team because of it. The offense becomes very stagnant when Tayshaun is holding the ball. I don't think it's a coincidence that this switch to Tayshaun and Rip dominating the ball with the bench happened at the exact same time as the bench dropping off dramatically. And that has resulted in leads dropping with the bench in instead of increasing as they were prior to this change in philosophy.

Stuckey doesnt really play off the ball with Rip, its just that Stuckey has a tendency to overdribble and no one gets open for him except for Rip who usually connects on his drives.

Yes he does. He dribbles the ball up he court and immediately passes it to Rip/Tay on the wing. It's been 3-4 games since Flip has called for Rodney to attack early in the clock. That is when the offense was moving it's best. He was getting in the lane at will and dishing or scoring. That is how he's going to run the offense. Not by playing this flex offense perimeter game Flip loves so much. That may work for the starters, but the bench doesn't have a whole lot of perimeter players. All of them except Hayes are at their best slashing to the rim. Flip isn't allowing any of it.

When Stuckey is acting as a full point (especially with Afflalo out there too), he really is not getting anythng done out thre. Its only his 11th or so game, so Im sure in time he will be able to run the offense but right now he just isnt there.

As i've said before it's play calling. You can't use the same plays for Stuckey, AA, Hayes, Max, etc that you use with the starters. They are different types of players. If you want them to run the starters plays, they are going to fail. It's just poor coaching. Not knowing how to use the personnel properly.

nasty daddy · Post #186 » by **nasty daddy** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:39 am

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti ... 12078/1051

Richard Hamilton hit the go-ahead jumper and two clinching free throws in the final 17 seconds, and the Detroit Pistons overcame a valiant effort from undermanned Charlotte to beat the Bobcats 103-100 in overtime on Saturday night.

Hamilton, who scored 26 points, hit a baseline jumper with 16.2 seconds left to put Detroit ahead 101-100. After Emeka Okafor was called for basket interference at the other end, Hamilton hit two free throws with 0.2 seconds left to seal the Pistons