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Post#701 » by Tommy Trojan » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:34 am

Send Kwame back to Washington and have him go after agent zero
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Post#702 » by milesfides » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:34 am

Well, when Kobe is surrounded by guys who play passively, his natural instinct is to dominate the ball and get something going. He did that in the Seattle game.

This game, he tried to set his teammates up in the 3rd quarter. When Kobe is surrounded by guys who can't play aggressively, like he was in that quarter, he can't play balanced.

The difference in the 4th quarter was obvious. When Kobe is surrounded by aggressive scorers, it's much easier to play a balanced game because his teammates are threats.

Let's be real here. At some point, to win a game, his teammates need to get going. We tried that in the third. Unfortunately, Phil had the wrong teammates in there around Kobe.
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Post#703 » by Leonidas » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:34 am

no. 54 booooed.. I luaghed my ass off.. GTFO LA no. 54.. Your jersey no. is your basketball IQ..
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Post#704 » by Kobay » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:34 am

Would u do Kwame for Zack Randolph at this point?
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Post#705 » by dockingsched » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:36 am

JustBlaze20 wrote:makes you wonder if we could have won if Phil didn't sit Kobe for half of the F'in 4th quarter


u mean when the bench brought the lakers back into the game??
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Post#706 » by CITYOFANGELSX3 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:36 am

Leonidas wrote:no. 54 booooed.. I luaghed my ass off.. GTFO LA no. 54.. Your jersey no. is your basketball IQ..


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Post#707 » by RJM » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:36 am

I can't wait to hear Gilbert's comments about Kwame Brown's performance.....:rofl:
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Post#708 » by Leonidas » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:36 am

milesfides wrote:Well, when Kobe is surrounded by guys who play passively, his natural instinct is to dominate the ball and get something going. He did that in the Seattle game.

This game, he tried to set his teammates up in the 3rd quarter. When Kobe is surrounded by guys who can't play aggressively, like he was in that quarter, he can't play balanced.

The difference in the 4th quarter was obvious. When Kobe is surrounded by aggressive scorers, it's much easier to play a balanced game because his teammates are threats.

Let's be real here. At some point, to win a game, his teammates need to get going. We tried that in the third. Unfortunately, Phil had the wrong teammates in there around Kobe.


Well said..
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Post#709 » by Tommy Trojan » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:38 am

Kobay wrote:Would u do Kwame for Zack Randolph at this point?



I sure would
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Post#710 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:38 am

zen_4_10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Yep. And I think we learned - start Turiaf (or at least get him in ASAP) and probably Ariza plus keep Java on the bench.


Thing is, we need Brown, if only to eat up minutes, until Bynum gets back. As mentally weak as he is, I'm not he'll respond well to getting benched. Just can't believe how soft this guy is.

I'd definitely support plugging in Ariza for Walton, but I'm not sure if it really fixes anything. We've got a bunch of small forwards who do well in spurts but aren't really suited to be consistent NBA starters.

And Java....let's just say this kid is nowhere near being ready to contribute on a regular basis and leave it at that. I like him, but damn...this isn't Venice Beach, kid.
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Post#711 » by Leonidas » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:38 am

Kobay wrote:Would u do Kwame for Zack Randolph at this point?


I really don't dig this dude.. But If the Lakers could get Kwame out.. Thats a strong consideration
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Post#712 » by DEEP3CL » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:38 am

Lesson's learned tonight

1. Kwame is not a starting center, hands are too bad to make triangle
work, no shot blocking presence............damn I miss Drew.

2. Phil needs to keep his damn mouth closed about Kobe's shots if
these guys don't want to shoot then I say Kobe should shoot every
shot if it means we win.

3. Mitch needs to call C-Webb first thing tomorrow morning.
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Post#713 » by Tommy Trojan » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:39 am

We are in 3rd place right now, with one more loss we would be in 6th.
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Post#714 » by LLcoleJ » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:40 am

We are a team with a #1 option and a couple 3's and the rest. We need to find that extra help in scoring to keep this balance going. When we ask our 3rd options to do too much we are risking alot. I believe when this team has its offense flowing we can play more fluid D, and that IMO opinion will allow us to win games while Bynum is out.

We just need to fill a 2nd scoring option and rebound better and we can survive.
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Post#715 » by zen_4_10 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:40 am

milesfides wrote:Well, when Kobe is surrounded by guys who play passively, his natural instinct is to dominate the ball and get something going. He did that in the Seattle game.

This game, he tried to set his teammates up in the 3rd quarter. When Kobe is surrounded by guys who can't play aggressively, like he was in that quarter, he can't play balanced.
The difference in the 4th quarter was obvious. When Kobe is surrounded by aggressive scorers, it's much easier to play a balanced game because his teammates are threats.

Let's be real here. At some point, to win a game, his teammates need to get going. We tried that in the third. Unfortunately, Phil had the wrong teammates in there around Kobe.

No doubt and that's really why I'm not that upset about it tonight...but in the future, before games get out of hand or they really mean something, he still has to be more balanced and consistent. Take some shots. Pass some off.
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Post#716 » by The Laker Kid » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:42 am

Kobay wrote:Would u do Kwame for Zack Randolph at this point?


Heck I'd even trade Kwame for Zach's shoes
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Post#717 » by Rox_Nix_Nox » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:42 am

Just wondering can we call up marc gasol or is he overseas for the whole year
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Post#718 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:43 am

Zen, I respect your opinion.

So let me ask you -- should I go to work tomorrow, or should I blow it off and play video games all day?
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Post#719 » by zen_4_10 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:43 am

Phil_2.0 wrote:We are a team with a #1 option and a couple 3's and the rest. We need to find that extra help in scoring to keep this balance going. When we ask our 3rd options to do too much we risking alot. I believe when this team has its offense flowing we can play more fluid D, and that IMO opinion will allow us to win game while Bynum is out.

We just need to fill a 2nd scoring option and rebound better and we can survive.
:nod: That's why we've always thrived on ball movement. It has not been there lately and we are lucky to be 2-1 in these last 3 games because of it.
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Post#720 » by zen_4_10 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:44 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:Zen, I respect your opinion.

So let me ask you -- should I go to work tomorrow, or should I blow it off and play video games all day?

How much do you make versus which games are we talking about here? :lol:

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