Can we make a play for Ron Artest?

BrewCityBBQ · Post #1 » by **BrewCityBBQ** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:01 am

I know that Kohl has this mantra of we dont take on players with "bad" attitudes, but this is the type of player that can bring some toughness to a team that is dire need of some.

What would it take for the Kings to trade us Artest? Charlie V would have to be involved.

miggs0721 · Post #2 » by **miggs0721** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:05 am

JBIZZ,
You call into Doug and Mike sometimes in the a.m. I hope them jokers make it on time tomorrow. Anyways, I am all in Artest. Enoughs enough about bringing in low character players, sign me up, at the same time bring Z-bo

Matches Malone · Post #3 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:07 am

Redd + Villanueva for Artest + Thomas

miggs0721 · Post #4 » by **miggs0721** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:08 am

DONE DEAL COMPADRE

rilamann · Post #5 » by **rilamann** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:10 am

Artest is a tough player who plays with heart and effort every night,there is no way the Milwaukee Bucks would ever want a guy like that on their roster.

WEFFPIM · Post #6 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:12 am

This is the Milwaukee Bucks. No

BrewCityBBQ · Post #7 » by **BrewCityBBQ** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:22 am

WEFFPIM wrote:This is the Milwaukee Bucks. No

Exactly and that seems to be their attitude in the reign of Herb Kohl.

FutureBuck2008 · Post #8 » by **FutureBuck2008** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:31 am

i agree with u jbizz....artest wouldn't be my first option...but this team needs some damn toughness and D. he would surely help that. artest does bring some problems with his attitude.....but i don't want any more of these nice type, role model players for milwaukee.......need talent and guys with some fierceness. Come on get it done LH and Kohl!!!

MilBucksBackOnTop06 · Post #9 » by **MilBucksBackOnTop06** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:37 am

Jbizzness wrote:I know that Kohl has this mantra of we dont take on players with "bad" attitudes, but this is the type of player that can bring some toughness to a team that is dire need of some.

What would it take for the Kings to trade us Artest? Charlie V would have to be involved.

Look I brought Artest up every year and every single day...YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.

The losers who run this organization won't take a chance on a guy like Ron and he is EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED!

Don't waste your time or hold your breathe. This town's teams are run by bafoons. They wouldn't know a good player if he bit them in the ear!

There is nothing wrong with Artest's attitude. People are people... get over it! That's basketball and that is life! He is just....him.

But he can play some ball and he PLAYS TO WIN! And that is the bottom line and should be here.

But this team is not committed to winning but it is about using it as a tool for a Senator to manipulate the masses.

He is not serious about winning for them his legacy or getting re-elected or thought highly on a civic scale and philantropist.

I can care less about that I want our team to get a ring!

bayrdbandit · Post #10 » by **bayrdbandit** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:41 am

no thanks

Dags · Post #11 » by **Dags** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 11:04 am

Why get Artest only to have him opt out and leave the team at the end of the season? If his contract was for longer then sure, but not fo a half-year rental. No point.

Mags FTW · Post #12 » by **Mags FTW** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 11:08 am

Dags wrote:Why get Artest only to have him opt out and leave the team at the end of the season?

Cap space that would have been locked up in Redd's contract.

Post #13 » by **blkout** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 11:27 am

He's a pain in the ass and would cause a bunch of problems, but he would be a great upgrade on the court.

Dags · Post #14 » by **Dags** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 11:28 am

Mags FTW wrote:Cap space that would have been locked up in Redd's contract.

Cap space that tends to net us good free agents?

Cap space is worthless for the Bucks, it's more important to trade for productive player that has a couple of years left on their contract.

Rockmaninoff · Post #15 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 12:16 pm

Dags wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Cap space that tends to net us good free agents?

Cap space is worthless for the Bucks, it's more important to trade for productive player that has a couple of years left on their contract.

Why can't we just resign him if it works? There shouldn't be many teams with the cap room to give him a much bigger contract, then the one he has now. Give him a 3 year extension that ends when Redd's ends. What so hard about that?

old skool · Post #16 » by **old skool** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:46 pm

Artest does not play to win.

Artest does not run the plays called by the coach.

Artest does not help teams succeed - every NBA team that he has played for has let him go, admitting that his skills are not worth the problems that he causes.

Artest has said that he needs to take more three point shots so that he can command a bigger contract next time he is a free agent.

Artest does not always play, much less play to win. He is unpredictable and unreliable.

Artest is a distraction that causes his team to have disappointing seasons. Despite playing with solid NBA players like Jermaine O'Neal, Steven Jackson, Mike Bibby, Brad Miller and Kevin Martin, Artest has only played on one team that has advanced past the first round of the playoffs.

Artest brings talent, toughness, distraction, unpredictability, and disappointment. He would hurt the Bucks more than he would help them.

oLd sKool

europa · Post #17 » by **europa** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:48 pm

old skool wrote:Artest does not play to win.

Artest does not run the plays called by the coach.

Artest does not help teams succeed - every NBA team that he has played for has let him go, admitting that his skills are not worth the problems that he causes.

Artest has said that he needs to take more three point shots so that he can command a bigger contract next time he is a free agent.

Artest does not always play, much less play to win. He is unpredictable and unreliable.

Artest is a distraction that causes his team to have disappointing seasons. Despite playing with solid NBA players like Jermaine O'Neal, Steven Jackson, Mike Bibby, Brad Miller and Kevin Martin, Artest has only played on one team that has advanced past the first round of the playoffs.

Artest brings talent, toughness, distraction, unpredictability, and disappointment. He would hurt the Bucks more than he would help them.

oLd sKool

What's your point?

MajorDad · Post #18 » by **MajorDad** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:03 pm

Is Artest an improvement over what the Bucks have ? yes.

all star athletes are head cases, so why should Artest be any different? is Artest really any different than Sheffield, Moss, TO or Chad johnson? Artest demands love and attention. Would he be a distraction? it all depends on what is meant by a distraction. yes, he would speak his mind , and yes he would talk a lot to the media. perhaps the Bucks need more outspoken personalities. Artest doesn't lie, and what he says comes from his heart.

as for his play-off record, it's kind of hard to win a play-off series whe n you are the kings and you have a choice of the Suns, Spurs and mavs to play against in the first round.

I wouldn't trade Redd for Artest because their salries wouldn't match. I'd gladly trade Mo or Simmons for Artest. I'd gladly trade Mo and Simmons for bibby and Artest. Bibby, redd and Artest would make a very nice front court to go with Bogut and YI.

A big question is would Artest stay in Milwaukee after this year? NO. very doubtful. he's already said he wants to play in NYC . Nothing the Bucks would offer would be enough for him to stay. he's just not much of a small town type of guy.

I'd like to see Artest as a Buck, but i know it's not going to happen. it makes too much sense. the Bucks don't like outspoken peronalities. they like oat meal.