Biedrins no longer our starting center

[Sid the Squid]

Webber is...Biedrins will always come off the bench..Nellie says Biedrins will still get "the bulk of the minutes"...Tonight Andris recieved 18 minutes in this new rotation...Good going coach.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 7UVU2T.DTL

[turk3d]

Webber is...Biedrins will always come off the bench..Nellie says Biedrins will still get "the bulk of the minutes"...Tonight Andris recieved 18 minutes in this new rotation...Good going coach.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 7UVU2T.DTL

He played all of 21 minutes LF, according to the ESPN boxscore.

I like what Nellie had to say about Monta though:

"That guy's incredible," Nelson said about the 22-year-old guard. "He is an amazing player. He has the ability to smell out openings and he makes great cuts and the guys found him."

And also I found it to be interesting what Baron and Jack said:

"That's what we want," Baron Davis added. "He just took the game over."

Jack

"When Monta gets the ball, it's cash money," Jackson said.

I noticed that one play when Jackson came down on a break and had a wide open 3 but passed it up and hit Monta driving to the hoop where he scored and got the "and 1". I don't think that Jackson has done that all season long. When he had an open 3, he always chucked it. It shows that there is definitely some sort of a transformation taking place on this team. The question whether or not it's going to be a good one. Is it because of Webber? Or is it the continual develpment of Monta or maybe a combination of both. The big question mark is whatever this change taking place is, is it going to translate to more wins?

Good article LF. How'd you get it so fast? You work for the paper or something?

[BROWN]

I'm really liking this from monta,
from now on, or probably from .. a couple of weeks ago,
the opponents main scouting report will be focused on monta,
and this will allow our two cap'n to start playing better and smarter,
obviously cause the attention is turned towards monta ..

i'm lovin it.

[floppymoose]

Webber is...Biedrins will always come off the bench..Nellie says Biedrins will still get "the bulk of the minutes"...Tonight Andris recieved 18 minutes in this new rotation...Good going coach.

Nellie is out of his mind. I want Nellie to GM and run practice,and Kieth Dumb to run the games.

[GuitarMan]

I blame Dre's sitting on Baron (and I'm no Baron hater at all). It was obvious last game (Chicago game) that baron had no idea what to do with himself with Webber at the high post. Dre was working great down low with Webber up top, but BD was lost, completely ineffective - just standing around. Putting Web down low at the 5 spot allows everyone to play their normal game, but bumps AB out of the starting lineup. Sucks. I don't understand why Nellie couldn't give Webber at the 4 a couple more games. I guess the answer is that Webber at the 4 and Dre at the 5 means a traditional lineup, and we can't have THAT.

[FNQ]

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Nellie is out of his mind. I want Nellie to GM and run practice,and Kieth Dumb to run the games.

Smart is a Nellie disciple...

We need someone outside Nellie's reach to coach... someone who knows the value of a big man like Biedrins, someone who can work Wright into the game and keep the D-Leaguers the hell of the court.

So common sense is a must...

[mistatwo mayn]

Baron is really your "little guy" passer; great for kickouts, and some nifty passing inside.

But Webber can feed the post with ease. It's ridiculous.... and when you add the two, Baron MUST become a shooter to be effective.

[FNQ]

This whole Webb/Biedrins situation sucks... of course eventually it was going to turn like this.

No matter how solid Beans is, he's not a Nellie guy... it literally amazes me when people stand up for the guy whos putting a tourniquet over our talented youth

[Twinkie defense]

Well it has been said, it's not who starts but who finishes.

Webber played just 14 minutes. He looked okay. I'm going to give him a couple weeks, and if it looks like he can help the rotation, I'll take him.

Yeah I can't believe the tourniquet Nellie has put on our talented youth. My how Monta and Biedrins have regressed under him.

Tell the truth 510, are you even a Warriors fan?

[FNQ]

Watch me completely miss the point!

No... you caught me... I just like to remind people how great Monta is, how much talent we actually have, and like good, solid coaching rotations brought on by necessity and situation.

I also like players with natural physical talents, in addition to basketball talents. But because I don't believe in the coaching god Nellie, I'm no Warrior fan...

Biedrins hasn't regressed... what has he done? Work on that post game? Positioning? Rebounding? Someone said it before... probably LF... Nellie cant coach players over a certain height. He doesnt know what to do with them. Biedrins hasn't done different since the conclusion of the 06 season... Nellie got credit for something Biedrins was already doing

Its my bad though... I'll try and stop watching the games with my eyes open. I'll find my homer shades, pinkie swear.

BTW we played like hell in the 1st half.... score be damned :/

[olbi]

Reading latvian press with AB's comments after Kings game I clearly see some bitterness about his current situation in GSW. He does not feel too comfortable and sounds a bit confused..

just a piece of info from across the ocean..

[Thugleavy34]

great....just great....

[olbi]

well, its not like he is complaining about anything, but you can just feel that his confidence took a hit lately.. its those little things that can be picked out from his interview that show that he does not feel as good as he did in the past..his usual enthusiasm is not there anymore
dunno what to blame here..

[turk3d]

Yeah, after he gets 26 rebounds, the most in the league so far, he doesn't start the next game and then only plays 21 last night, I can't imagine why his confidence has been shaken and why he's confused. So am I and a few others on this board.

I have a feeling that both Monta and Beans are going to "stick it" to the FO next season, I don't care what they do to try and keep Beans from averaging his double-double.

[Sleepy51]

Again,
The webber signing has lots of potential to help us improve and to stand up in a playoff fight, but it's been handled clumsily and disrespectfully to the guys who have carried this team to where it is now. So Dre is going to be the guy screwed for Nellie's wild guess at about a player he hadn't seen play an NBA game for 12 months.

This is just as dumb as Beli as starter. It's just as dumb as thinking that the Dun/Murphy frontcourt was going to work. It's just as dumb as thinking Pietrus would be a vital component and just as dumb as trying to manufacture depth by pinning Monta and or Al on the bench.

This is a critical time in the season to be screwing with a winning team's chemistry for a scrap heap player. This isn't adding Gasol or Shaq. This is adding a roleplayer with limited remaining physical tools and pretending he's a starter.

It's one thing to deal with Baron's historical problems making adjustments to his comfort zone. Sure, you can chalk that up to ego, and his aggressive personality in general. But it's a whole nother thing when guys like Al & Dre start to resist and resent the coaches handling. If this continues to be handles as it's being, this has the potential to be Nellie's biggest mistake since the last Webber deal.

[turk3d]

Just read this article in today's morning paper which I found to be very disturbing: (this is being double-posted as I think that it's appropriate for both threads).

Nelson limiting Webber to center

http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_8222995

This is for all you "Genius Nellie lovers".

Barnes plays 22 minutes last night (with his 4-13 shooting) to Biedrens 21 (Beans had only 2 fouls and shot 4-6 with 7 boards and numerous defensive plays). Nellie's making some of these games closer than they should be by not playing the right guys at the right time. F:censored:k his agenda. This has gotten to the point where it's getting very old.

[Chris Cohan]

If I'm going to be a playoff team, I'm going to hire a new coach next year.

[Luusizz]

A little summary from the post-game interview olbi told you about:

"I just didn't really manage to fit into the game coming off the bench. They told me that I won't start the game (won't be in starting 5) and I thought that I was ready for it, but I had a poor beginning and it continued for the rest of the game.

I missed my first free throws which hurt my confidence. I had a few good shots, but I missed some of them. All-in-all I didn't have positive emotions after this game. However the most important thing is that we won this game."

He also mentioned that in his opinion Baron's poor play the last games is because he may be tired from playing 40-45 minutes per game.

Andris said that he felt tired a month ago too so this may be the reason in Baron's case.

[MbengaforMVP]

Again,
The webber signing has lots of potential to help us improve and to stand up in a playoff fight, but it's been handled clumsily and disrespectfully to the guys who have carried this team to where it is now. So Dre is going to be the guy screwed for Nellie's wild guess at about a player he hadn't seen play an NBA game for 12 months.

Not only is Nelson alienating a fast improving big man whose skill set is a perfect fit for the Warriors' run fast / shoot often system, but Webber's been looking like crap so far, and doesn't seem to be meshing well with Baron. The more I've been watching Nelson this year, the more I'm convinced he's bought into his own hype and now believes he's infallible.

[Luusizz]

Yeah, I really liked Nelly last year, but this season I don't understand him in many occasions.