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Post#221 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:03 pm

Nope just tired of having to read this nonsense and know that if we were on the raptors board trying to rip their superstar...The thread would have been locked and we would be condemned.

And i know that because i went there to ask them a simple question and thats exactly what happened.
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Post#222 » by Gerhalt11 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:06 pm

PimpORL wrote:I think Dwight's saving the kiss the rim dunk for next year. Is he even going to participate next year? For 2 years straight we've been under the impression that his kiss the rim dunk will be his main dunk, it would kind of suck if he never does it.


I don't think we'll see it in the dunk contest. It's ridiculous that he can do it and if he did it last year, it would have been great. But like you said, he's sort of become known for it. And dunk contests these days are all about doing something new, something shocking, something we've never seen before.
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Post#223 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:06 pm

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Oh STFU you overly sensitive terence and phillip wannabe.

How bout you go back to your own board, create a thread titled, The Official Jamario Moon guaranteed a victory and let us down, so lets do everything we can to discredit dwight howard for owning everyone Thread.


Did you even read what I wrote> I said that it was a dunk, and he deserved to win. I never said Moon should have won, and I really don't think that Moon could have won to be honest. The only thing I wrote against Howard was that his superman dunk isn't in my personal top 5 fav dunks. Please actually read posts before you fly off the handle.
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Post#224 » by maginno » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:07 pm

Nothingface wrote:to clarify:

If the hand is exerting downward force on the ball as it crosses the plane of the rim, it's a dunk.


To clarify there is no dictionary in the world named Nothingface. Go with any dictionary actually published not a unknown forum poster in of all places toronto.
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Post#225 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:07 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Nope just tired of having to read this nonsense and know that if we were on the raptors board trying to rip their superstar...The thread would have been locked and we would be condemned.

And i know that because i went there to ask them a simple question and thats exactly what happened.


Well whats the question, I have no issue answering it.
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Post#226 » by maginno » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:15 pm

Whats really amusing is that this was the 2008 NBA slam dunk contest. I haven't heard one single NBA representative question this as a dunk and we have these no name nobodies trying to change dictionary meanings and force their definitions.

Magic summed it up best - he not only dunked it. He threw it down.

No controversy from any NBA rep.
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Post#227 » by Gerhalt11 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:18 pm

maginno wrote:Whats really amusing is that this was the 2008 NBA slam dunk contest. I haven't heard one single NBA representative question this as a dunk and we have these no name nobodies trying to change dictionary meanings and force their definitions.

Magic summed it up best - he not only dunked it. He threw it down.

No controversy from any NBA rep.


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Post#228 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:18 pm

^^^^^
Thats a good point, don't you think that had it not been a dunk that someone, somewhere from the NBA office would have done something about it? Even if not during the contest, during some interview or some other manner, wouldn't a story or something have been leaked to a credible source. Whether you personally think its a dunk or not, is ultimately up to you, but by the NBA's definition its a dunk.
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Post#229 » by General Ford » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:20 pm

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You're right, he didn't execute a traditional dunk.

Which is precisely why he won.


I didn't see that one coming :hoop:
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Post#230 » by General Ford » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:26 pm

mattyBoi wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Oh STFU you overly sensitive terence and phillip wannabe.

How bout you go back to your own board, create a thread titled, The Official Jamario Moon guaranteed a victory and let us down, so lets do everything we can to discredit dwight howard for owning everyone Thread.



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Post#231 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:27 pm

so General Ford you are agreeing with him, did you read my post either? Is there a point to me posting here if all you are going to do is look at my location and assume I'm here to bash Howard?
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Post#232 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:32 pm

My bad then dude i went back and read that you did agree with us so cheerss.

I just think its so ridiculous to try to discredit dwight like some people are trying to do.
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Post#233 » by mhectorgato » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:38 pm

:o

I can't believe that this thread has lasted for 20 pages
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Post#234 » by vagnermagic » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:41 pm

Well, all this discussion is useless.

Did you guys read the title? Superman DUNK was not a dunk

WTF?

hahahahahahaha

It was a hell of a dunk!
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Post#235 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:45 pm

mattyBoi wrote:My bad then dude i went back and read that you did agree with us so cheerss.

I just think its so ridiculous to try to discredit dwight like some people are trying to do.


Thank you for going back and reading it, so what was your question about Bosh that got your thread locked on the raptors board?
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Post#236 » by Nothingface » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:55 pm

maginno wrote:NothingFace

Since you haven't noticed people are tired of us going back and forth over physics. so -

For the last time I am going to explain the rudimentary issues involved in this debate. First off thrust is not a dictionary word confined to jet usage. You are trying to strain a point. Thrust by your very own supplied dictionary definition is

to "put or drive with force" says nothing about increasing or decreasing that force (fact is that as the basket goes through the hoop being thrown by Dwight the force acting on the ball is being added to by gravity but you missed that claiming it has nothing to do with it because it blows your point)

You even quoted that definition with full examples so lets look at the first dictionary example

"He thrust his way through the crowd."

lets apply your positively stupid (there is no other word for it) assertion. IF a man thrust his way through a crowd by jumping he is only thrusting when he is not in contact with the ground (since he cannot increase force while in the air). Even as he moves through the crowd he is not thrusting his way through the crowd. What you are doing is straining at technical gibberish to side step the obvious and its silly while professing some deep wisdom.


how stupid and silly? well according to you if I swing and stab you with a knife I am thrusting you through but if I get on skateboard use my foot to propel the skateboard toward you and I roll with knife in hand and it goes in the same place I am not thrusting you through because I haven't increased force at the moment of contact. Positively stupid.

All of this os underlined by the fact that some dictionaries simply say throw with NO emphasis on thrust not because they are uneducated (Mirriam webster is a well respected authority on word usage and employs people with far more expertise than you will ever be within a mile of equaling) but because the others usage of thrust is entirely consistent with throw since throw is driving with force.


In short. You have no point. You never have.

No? Well enlighten us how Mirriam Webster is wrong by stating that dunk is to throw down and spare the silliness of claiming the other two disagree. We both know they do not since throw can and is the same as drive with force in many a word usage.

Skip the hypocrisy and dishonesty and deal with the issue or run away


Wow, after all that, and being proven wrong over and over you try again.

sigh.

I only took issue with your second two listed definitions. Remember my saying 1/3 supported your claim?

What it comes down to on the thrust issue (you continually confuse it with momentum or inertia) thrust can only happen when force is being applied, or added. You have to agree with that.

Then you have to agree that at the time the ball broke the plane of the ring, no thrust was applied. You can argue at that point gravity is pulling it down but it was not applied by the player, so that is not in the equation.

Therefor you can argue whether "thrust" was needed to make it a dunk, but you can't argue that thrust was applied at the time of ring penetration. Your own defintions said it had to be thrusted into the net, not towards the net as he did.

If you can't grasp that, I can't help you.

edit: thrust through a crowd? that's a figure of speech. You do know the difference don't you?

You think you are right, and I know I am. Lets agree to disagree OK?
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Post#237 » by MagicNolesFSU » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:01 pm

WoW. Just wow.

To me the telling factor of this argument is D12 has the trophy, NO1 in the NBA has any doubt that it was a dunk, just some raptor fans (who woulda thunk it) and magic fans that even in victory must find something to complain about.

It seems like you overlook this simple fact. The NBA looked a this EXACT same issue FIVE years ago with keon clark. THe league decided its a dunk. EVERY dictionary says its a dunk. Yest you still whine. Why?
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Post#238 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:01 pm

Nothingface wrote:Then you have to agree that at the time the ball broke the plane of the ring, no thrust was applied. You can argue at that point gravity is pulling it down but it was not applied by the player, so that is not in the equation.


I think you are missing the point. At that time it doesn't matter if the ball is being thrusted through the plane of the ring, he has already thrusted the ball through the air in a downward direction that is heading through the plane of the ring. Adding thrust at that point in the same direction wouldn't change anything. Yes there is no more thrust being added, if you must be right about something. But that doesn't change the fact that thrust has been applied to the ball in a downward direction which results in the ball going through the net.
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Post#239 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:03 pm

MagicNolesFSU wrote:WoW. Just wow.

To me the telling factor of this argument is D12 has the trophy, NO1 in the NBA has any doubt that it was a dunk, just some raptor fans (who woulda thunk it) and magic fans that even in victory must find something to complain about.

It seems like you overlook this simple fact. The NBA looked a this EXACT same issue FIVE years ago with keon clark. THe league decided its a dunk. EVERY dictionary says its a dunk. Yest you still whine. Why?


Its not just raps fans, I am a raps fan and think that it was a dunk. But I am quite sure there are fans of most teams in the NBA that don't. In fact the thread on the general board was created by a lakers fan.
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Post#240 » by damo[23] » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:05 pm

mhectorgato wrote::o

I can't believe that this thread has lasted for 20 pages


Cant believe it went past 2. Theres a big thread on the gen boards aswell.

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