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All Star Break +- Report, plus How's Our Bench?

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All Star Break +- Report, plus How's Our Bench? 

Post#1 » by floppymoose » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:39 pm

Davis +14.5
Ellis +6.6
Jackson +6.6
Biedrins +6.0
Harrington +5.4
Barnes -3.3
Pietrus -5.4
Azubuike -10.9

It's all about what I would expect. I would say that Barnes is actually an average 6th man, though. While he has a negative +- relative to his teammates, the team still wins (barely) the minutes he is on the floor.

The only real surprise to me this season has been Beans. I would expect him to be higher, not so much because he is a better player than Ellis or Jackson, but because we don't have anyone else we are willing to play who does what he does.

"How's Our Bench?"

Some starters vs bench numbers were posted here:
http://www.82games.com/benchstats.htm

Looking at it shows that the Warriors are one of the few teams that are significant winners when their starters are on, but losers when their bench is on. Using this measurement, we have the 4th worst bench in the league.

Dallas, Phoenix, and Washington are worse. I have to wonder if the Wiz would have been worse if they hadn't lost Gil for the the entire season so far, and lost Caron and Jamison for parts of the season.

However you slice it, the Suns bench is pretty miserable.
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Post#2 » by -bob- » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:49 pm

man, Cleveland is top 5 in bench mins but bottom 10 in bench pts. that makes them the worst, imo.
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Post#3 » by floppymoose » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:03 pm

Their +- per minute is not too far off the starters though. So they must be defending better to make up for the lack of scoring punch.

What I was mostly looking for above were cases where there was the largest dropoff from starters to bench. Some of the teams with lousy starters possibly have even worse benches then ours, but I wasn't really considering them since there can't be that much of a dropoff if the starters stink.
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Post#4 » by Sid the Squid » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:39 pm

Last 15 games or so Biedrins has been far ahead of the rest of the team in +/-/MIN...Ellis and Jackson have also picked it up over the last 10 games or so..Ellis mainly because of the maturity of his game..Jack because his knee and toe are healed ..Also Jack has cut down on the amount of bad shots he's taking each game.
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Post#5 » by GSWhoopfan » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:38 am

LF75 wrote:Last 15 games or so Biedrins has been far ahead of the rest of the team in +/-/MIN...Ellis and Jackson have also picked it up over the last 10 games or so..Ellis mainly because of the maturity of his game..Jack because his knee and toe are healed ..Also Jack has cut down on the amount of bad shots he's taking each game.


i agree with Jack needs to cut out his bad shots...but i do believe that his bad shots leads to him making his clutch shots in the 4th quarter. he confuses the ish out of me.

down the stretch give the ball to Monta. i think in the end it should be Baron, Monta, Jack, Biedrins, and Al with Monta being our "go-to" option. Al spreads the floor on one side, Jack up top. Beans camps the lane and Baron is free to do what he wants.
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