Peteleavy said he'd waive his bird rights!

Mylie10 · Post #1 » by **Mylie10** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:54 am

The Chicago Tribune is saying that Mickael would waive his bird rights to get outta here.

Start the count down now.

I'd trade him for a bag of Skittles (I love Skittles and they're more predictable).

seriously moving him would open those minutes up for Wright, Azu, and Barnes. We don't need him and he's a distraction.

Post #2 » by **floppymoose** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:56 am

I'm so confused. How does waving his Bird rights help anyone?? Wouldn't not having Bird rights make him even less desirable to another team?

Sid the Squid · Post #3 » by **Sid the Squid** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:07 am

I see a lot of Larry Bird's game in MP's floor game...Similar players...They both liked that corner 3.

Post #4 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:30 am

If Stupid Sam Smith is your only source - dont believe it

He makes stuff up - like McGrady being sooo unhappy in Houston

MP must approve a trade & he is begging to be traded - so this one is probably true.

With Bird Rights he can be re-signed without using MLE. By waiving them, he is basically guaranteeing he will not make more than MLE next season.

-bob- · Post #5 » by **-bob-** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:05 am

I guarantee that MP will not make more than the MLE next season.

Post #6 » by **floppymoose** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:05 am

Sure, but who does that help? Bird rights also help the team he goes to - at least theoretically. I'm just not getting it.

Mylie10 · Post #7 » by **Mylie10** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:11 am

He's basically saying anywhere will be fine. Take any deal, just get me out.

He's pretty much already said this, but he's publically saying that he won't stand in the way of any potential deal.

having said that, Seattle is getting offers for Delonte West. Supposedly JR Smith for Delonte.

If I'm PJ Carlissimo, I want nothing to do with JR Smith. Pietrus for all of his faults is coachable and has more upside than JR. JR's a bum and although he has killer talent, he's a bad individual.

Pete's a better offer to them than JR and West would be a huge upgrade over CJ.

I've liked Delonte since his St. Joes days and he would fit us like a glove.

-bob- · Post #8 » by **-bob-** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:17 am

Floppy, yeah, I don't understand the point of forcing him to waive his Bird rights in first place. who came up with that rule, and why? I don't get the motivation behind it.

Post #9 » by **GSWbandwagon** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:37 am

i think waive his bird rights is another term for not block the trade in this case. the only reason pietrus has the power to block is because players are more valuable with the bird rights and i don't think they're transferable via trade in his situation. so if he gets traded, he has to agree to waive the rights to allow the trade to go through. i don't think he'd waive them unless there's an actual trade happening though.

Mylie10 · Post #10 » by **Mylie10** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:40 am

GSWbandwagon wrote:i think waive his bird rights is another term for not block the trade in this case. the only reason pietrus has the power to block is because players are more valuable with the bird rights and i don't think they're transferable via trade in his situation. so if he gets traded, he has to agree to waive the rights to allow the trade to go through. i don't think he'd waive them unless there's an actual trade happening though.

Yeah, why waive them if you don't get dealt?

Man just for the sake of a clean slate, I'd like to see him go.

thetrueth · Post #11 » by **thetrueth** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:05 am

Petey's agent is an idiot, he should tell Mickael to play well this season and cash in elsewhere.

Post #12 » by **floppymoose** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:11 am

Ok, I've got it straight now. What MP is really saying is that he would consent to the trade. Since he is on a QO, consenting to the trade at this point has the side effect of ending any Bird rights.

Coon FAQ wrote:80. When can a team trade a free agent it signs? Do they have to keep him forever?

Generally, a player cannot be traded until three months after signing a contract or December 15th of that season, whichever is later. This does not apply to draft picks, who can be traded 30 days after signing their contract. In addition, if the player is playing under a one-year contract and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the contract, he can't be traded without his consent. If consent is granted and the player is traded, then he loses his Larry Bird or Early Bird rights, and enters free agency as a Non-Bird free agent. For example, Seattle signed Vladimir Radmanovic to a one-year qualifying offer on September 21, 2005. Therefore, Radmanovic could not be traded at all until December 21, 2005. After December 21, 2005, he could only be traded if he consented to the trade (he did consent and was traded to the Clippers). He became a Non-Bird free agent with the Clippers in the summer of 2006 (and signed instead with the Lakers).

I thought it was hilarious that the relevant question from the FAQ asks "Do they have to keep him forever?". ohs noes!!!!

old rem · Post #13 » by **old rem** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:42 am

GSWbandwagon wrote:i think waive his bird rights is another term for not block the trade in this case. the only reason pietrus has the power to block is because players are more valuable with the bird rights and i don't think they're transferable via trade in his situation. so if he gets traded, he has to agree to waive the rights to allow the trade to go through. i don't think he'd waive them unless there's an actual trade happening though.

I believe this is the case. Pietrus-at this stage-has Bird Rights as a keeper but they no longer transfer in a trade. Thus any deal and- Bird rights are gone. If He's seeing no chance GSW keeps him at MLE or higher-The Bird Rights are irrelevant. It's well known that Mike Pete is looking 1- to get closer to the Carribean 2- Get more opportunity/coaching 3- Be where there's no LF75 calling him "Trainwreck".

Too bad that the Mike Pete project stalled. He's still the very type ultra athlete who can thrive in a fast game. It will be interesting to see if some other team can give him the consistant fundamentals he's short on.

Mylie10 · Post #14 » by **Mylie10** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:50 pm

I think he just needs a new brain and he'll be fine.

Actually if the guy focussed on being the next Bruce Bowen, then he'd have gotten paid already.

He's an idiot. But a damn likeable guy.

sanddude909 · Post #15 » by **sanddude909** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:25 pm

Actually if the guy focussed on being the next Bruce Bowen, then he'd have gotten paid already.

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True dat.

Somewhere along the line, Pietrus got the idea stuck in his head that in order to maximize his payday, he had to be a primary offensive weapon. (I think it was the beginning of the year, 2 years ago??)

Whoever gave him that idea really blew it for him, in addition to his buying into it.

Had he worked on being a more athletic Bowen type defender and the kind of guy who hits open 3's from the corner and gets dunks, putbacks, and fast break layups, he would have gotten around the MLE last year.

Now, at best, he's looking at 3 years, $10-12 million in my opinion, and it won't be with the Warriors.

Twinkie defense · Post #16 » by **Twinkie defense** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:01 am

Didn't you guys hear? Pietrus is going to be an All-Star! He said so himself.

turk3d · Post #17 » by **turk3d** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:41 pm

Mylie10 wrote:I think he just needs a new brain and he'll be fine.

Actually if the guy focussed on being the next Bruce Bowen, then he'd have gotten paid already.

He's an idiot. But a damn likeable guy.

It's interesting I think because San Antonio was reported to be interested in him at the beginning of the season with a possible Barry deal and as an eventual replacement for Bowen.