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Post#141 » by tk76 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:15 pm

Sixerfan- can you tell us where the team is with regards to Iguodala and Youngs positions?

Do we really see Young at PF and Dala at SF moving forward- or are we just buying time until Young handle/jumper is SF ready and we find a good PF?

This effects our future needs. If Iguodala is moved to SG then we are fine with Lou and Green at back-ups. If Iguodala stays at SF then we are thin at the SG position, and I would want to hold onto Carney for now.


Also, have the Sixers given up hope for Lou become i starting PG in a couple of years?
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Post#142 » by IggyTheBEaST » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:26 pm

philly262 wrote:This is what I have so far with a 3 way with Den-Sac and Phi


http://realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=763808


Denver gets too little. Sac gets too much. They cant get Kleiza AND Nene AND dump KT.

I bet denver could convince philly to do miller for nene kleiza and the 1st so why would they want to add in a najera for kenny thomas swap?

Garcia doesnt do too much for philly if they are getting artest. And if the sixers are getting artest, itll be to make a push, in other words, miller wont be included
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Post#143 » by IggyTheBEaST » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:29 pm

SendEm, Dallas overpayed before, but not anymore since now they get to keep stackhouse.

Kidd
Stack
Howard
Dirk
Dampier

Is much better than how they would have looked with hassel. They still need a backup big pretty bad tho. Once they get depth their, they got a shot, but otherwise, they arnt a top 5 team.
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Post#144 » by tk76 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:34 pm

Maybe they get a big from us. I would trade Evans for George :roll:

Even better, we should have traded Evans for an expiring KVH- it sure would have been fun to have him back to boo at...
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Post#145 » by IggyTheBEaST » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:36 pm

Dont know why everyone wants to dump evans. He is a player to hang on to
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Post#146 » by SendEm » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:40 pm

IggyTheBEaST wrote:SendEm, Dallas overpayed before, but not anymore since now they get to keep stackhouse.

Kidd
Stack
Howard
Dirk
Dampier

Is much better than how they would have looked with hassel. They still need a backup big pretty bad tho. Once they get depth their, they got a shot, but otherwise, they arnt a top 5 team.


Stack was never going to actually play for the Nets. The Nets were going to buy Stackhouse out then 30 days latter he could resign with Dallas.

I also heard last week that Jason Terry is going to start with Kidd in the backcourt.
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Post#147 » by IggyTheBEaST » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:42 pm

even better, stack will make a great 6th man.
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Post#148 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:06 pm

Sacramento Kings

Incoming Players
Shavlik Randolph
Salary: $1,130,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 0.0 REB: 0.5 AST: 0.0 PER: -17.11

Kevin Ollie
Salary: $3,441,900 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.5 REB: 0.6 AST: 1.2 PER: 8.65

Willie Green
Salary: $3,094,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 12.6 REB: 2.6 AST: 1.9 PER: 12.65

Eddy Curry
Salary: $8,947,543 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 13.7 REB: 4.8 AST: 0.6 PER: 15.87


Outgoing Players: Mikki Moore, Ron Artest, Beno UdrihNew York Knicks

Incoming Players
Mikki Moore
Salary: $5,356,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 8.0 REB: 5.9 AST: 0.8 PER: 10.78

Beno Udrih
Salary: $561,544 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.9 REB: 3.4 AST: 3.9 PER: 12.96


Outgoing Players: Eddy CurryPhiladelphia 76ers

Incoming Players
Ron Artest
Salary: $7,400,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 19.0 REB: 5.7 AST: 3.9 PER: 17.64


Outgoing Players: Shavlik Randolph, Kevin Ollie, Willie Green

Why for New York: They've been dying to get rid of Curry/Randolph, in this 3-team ordeal, they don't take back any majorly bad contracts and get 2 talented players, one of which has played alot better(on a bad team so take it with a grain of salt)

Why for Sacramento: In a similar ordeal to New York, Sacramento has ideally wanted to get rid of Ron Artest. This deal provides Sacramento with an extreme amount of talent along with expiring deals.

Why for Philadelphia: For little or no cost, they've acquired one of the best defensive swingmen to play in the NBA in quite a while. He's also a noteworthy 20 PPG scorer.

Reasons for the deal not to go down:

-New York realizes it's helping a divisional rival rebulid, but seeing as no one will take Curry/Randolph, they also realize they have no choice XD.
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Post#149 » by The Guilty Party » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:12 pm

By the way... what package do you like better??

Harris, Ager, Hassell, KVH, Diop, 2 first round picks, $3MIL in cash

OR

Andre Miller, Joe Smith, 2 first round draft picks??

This is why Billy King was fired. A 34 year old Jason Kidd apparently has more value than a 31 year Allen Iverson.
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Post#150 » by Carmelo Anthony » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:15 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:By the way... what package do you like better??

Harris, Ager, Hassell, KVH, Diop, 2 first round picks, $3MIL in cash

OR

Andre Miller, Joe Smith, 2 first round draft picks??

This is why Billy King was fired. A 34 year old Jason Kidd apparently has more value than a 31 year Allen Iverson.


Sigh. You're right, and it sucks. I like Miller and I'm glad he's playing so well but I still firmly believe we should have gotten a lot more for AI.
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Post#151 » by The Guilty Party » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:21 pm

THe key missing piece of the AI trade was a young prospect. That's a HUGE piece to be missing.

The Nets are getting Harris back, the Wolves got Jefferson back in the KG deal, and even the Grizzlies got a prospect in Crittenton (not on the same level as the other two) for Gasol and the Gasol deal sucked.

Ed Snider didn't help Billy out at all by talking to ESPN but Iverson should have been traded before that season even started. Sometimes it hurts to be a Sixer fan.
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Post#152 » by STChaser » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:29 pm

The only time Iverson would have brought anything really good back to us was right after our Finals run. Outside of that, his career here was always mired in some sort of turmoil, hence, his value was always lower than it should have been. It's really a shame it worked out that way. Had Iverson had a better attitude and cut out the off-court drama, I'm guessing that we would have gotten a major package for him - hell, he'd probably still be here.

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Post#153 » by sixerfan1976 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:33 pm

Ok...found we are trying to get Kurt Thomas.....for Ollie, Green and either Shav or Amundson. Thats been talked about.

More later....
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Post#154 » by The Guilty Party » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:33 pm

Wait... what about the summer of '06 (the summer before he got dealt)???? The reports were that we could have sent him to Boston for Jefferson, the #7 pick (Brandan Roy), and filler (Theo Ratliff, Ryan Gomes) but we backed out since we didn't want to send him within the division.

That trade would have been a win-win for us. We would have gotten a better trade package for Iverson and Boston wouldn't have had the assets to go get Garnett this past summer.
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Post#155 » by STChaser » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:37 pm

Well, Thomas wouldn't be a bad backup to Sam. He's listed as a PF but I always thought he was a 5. Could he start at the 4 next to Sam? While I'm not infatuated with picking up a 36 year old player, he does fit a glaring need we have in terms of our lack of depth at the 5 and provides veteran leadership. If Thomas replaces Booth on our roster, I'm all for it. But I like the idea of developing youth more and wouldn't want his acquisition to cut down on Jason Smith's minutes.

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Post#156 » by tk76 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:38 pm

I don't want o get Kurt Thomas. I'd rather lose a few more games this year but give his minutes to Smith.
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Post#157 » by THFM » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:38 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:Ok...found we are trying to get Kurt Thomas.....for Ollie, Green and either Shav or Amundson. Thats been talked about.

More later....


Just did this on the trade checker, and it works. Will this trade give us more cap room?
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Post#158 » by STChaser » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:38 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:Wait... what about the summer of '06 (the summer before he got dealt)???? The reports were that we could have sent him to Boston for Jefferson, the #7 pick (Brandan Roy), and filler (Theo Ratliff, Ryan Gomes) but we backed out since we didn't want to send him within the division.

That trade would have been a win-win for us. We would have gotten a better trade package for Iverson and Boston wouldn't have had the assets to go get Garnett this past summer.


I thought that Jefferson deal was never in the works because Boston didn't want to part with him.

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Post#159 » by noone » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:41 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:Ok...found we are trying to get Kurt Thomas.....for Ollie, Green and either Shav or Amundson. Thats been talked about.

More later....


I'm all for it. Take another 3 million off the books for next season.
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Post#160 » by STChaser » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:43 pm

So long as this deal involves Green and not Carney, I'm game. I don't want to lose Carney. I think he's got much more upside than Green. That being said, I do think Green gives us decent defense against some of the smaller guards in this league.

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