Miami/LA -- 10:30 Tonight

Post #81 » by **Lane1974** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:52 am

hmm..like the year LA traded Shaq and Kobe was banged up and they won 34 games and went to the lottery and got Bynum?

Post #82 » by **tsherkin** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:53 am

The opening to this thread, like the first two, three pages? Complete gold.

Hoops23 · Post #83 » by **Hoops23** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:55 am

I like Banks defense. He has the body to bang his opponents and I like Riley giving him some minutes of playing time. But Banks is more of a back-up PG IMO. Prove

I do agree, shut Wade down for the season. Why play the guy if he isn't able to play hard and could start resting.

This will prove Reggie Miller is right if Wade agree to sit the rest of the season.

34-35-36-37 wins, I think the point is Kobe will do better. I

That Nicka · Post #84 » by **That Nicka** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:56 am

Lane1974 wrote:hmm..like the year LA traded Shaq and Kobe was banged up and they won 34 games and went to the lottery and got Bynum?

34 wins is probably enough to make the playoffs in the east this year

:rofl:

Miami's Finest · Post #86 » by **Miami's Finest** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:09 am

Wade got to the second round without Shaq... Kobe with equal or better talent still hasn't. Wade obviously isn't the same but Miller is a fool I'm hoping Wade listens to everyones and shuts it down and gets healthy.

That Nicka · Post #87 » by **That Nicka** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:14 am

Miami's Finest wrote:Wade got to the second round without Shaq... Kobe with equal or better talent still hasn't.

I dont want this to get testy but I will say this... Dwyane Wade led the Heat (along with 2 other players) to a 42-40 record and the 2nd round of the playoffs... and they got to play the Hornets with a banged up 2nd option in Mashburn

Kobe led his team to a 47-35 record one year and a 42-40 record the next year, IN A TOUGHER CONFERENCE, and had to play the powerhouse Suns both times...

definitely a comparable situation :roll:

dingclancy · Post #88 » by **dingclancy** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:20 am

Wade's gotta chase that.

Illmatic_Heat · Post #89 » by **Illmatic_Heat** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:22 am

dingclancy wrote:Wade's gotta chase that.

uhh... no. he has 3 fouls.

Miami's Finest · Post #90 » by **Miami's Finest** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:23 am

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I dont want this to get testy but I will say this... Dwyane Wade led the Heat (along with 2 other players) to a 42-40 record and the 2nd round of the playoffs...

Wade carried that team in the playoffs and those two other players you are talking about didn't even make the playoffs playing with Kobe... Caron and Lamar.

That Nicka · Post #91 » by **That Nicka** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:27 am

Miami's Finest wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Wade carried that team in the playoffs and those two other players you are talking about didn't even make the playoffs playing with Kobe... Caron and Lamar.

I was actually talking about Lamar and Eddie Jones who averaged 17ppg each...

The year Kobe missed the playoffs was most similar to this season for the Heat... Kobe was banged up (Like Wade now).. Lamar missed a lot of games (like Shaq) and Caron was little more than just a scorer that didnt play much defense (Davis+Wright)... The difference is still the Lakers finished with 34+ wins a tougher conference while the Heat are one pace to finish with about 14 wins (if that) in one of the weakest conferences OF ALL TIME

Not to mention Lakers were in 7th place that year before Rudy T walked out on the team and Frank FREAKING Hamblan took over... You guys have a hall of fame coach

Miami's Finest · Post #92 » by **Miami's Finest** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:28 am

Finally Williams comes out... that talk of bringing back Williams really should be over. Banks is a major upgrade and he should be a backup

Miami's Finest · Post #93 » by **Miami's Finest** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:39 am

[quote="That Nicka"][/quote]

Eddie Jones?? I was talking about getting the team to the 2nd round of the playoffs trust me Eddie had nothing to do with that. It was all Wade. That BS talk by Reggie made no sense but it's easy to pile on Wade when he's down. I know he would have more than 1 point in the 2nd half of a game 7. I was just bringing up the fact that Kobe still hasn't got to the 2nd round without Shaq in light of Reggie's comments. But yes I agree with what you're saying and Kobe is the much better player this season.

DBurks2818 · Post #94 » by **DBurks2818** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:47 am

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I was actually talking about Lamar and Eddie Jones who averaged 17ppg each...

The year Kobe missed the playoffs was most similar to this season for the Heat... Kobe was banged up (Like Wade now).. Lamar missed a lot of games (like Shaq) and Caron was little more than just a scorer that didnt play much defense (Davis+Wright)... The difference is still the Lakers finished with 34+ wins a tougher conference while the Heat are one pace to finish with about 14 wins (if that) in one of the weakest conferences OF ALL TIME

Not to mention Lakers were in 7th place that year before Rudy T walked out on the team and Frank FREAKING Hamblan took over... You guys have a hall of fame coach

You can't just rely on statistics. The team was visibly lead by Wade in the 2nd half of the season and the playoffs, when they really made their runs.

That Nicka · Post #95 » by **That Nicka** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:48 am

Miami's Finest wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Eddie Jones?? I was talking about getting the team to the 2nd round of the playoffs trust me Eddie had nothing to do with that. It was all Wade. That BS talk by Reggie made no sense but it's easy to pile on Wade when he's down. I know he would have more than 1 point in the 2nd half of a game 7. I was just bringing up the fact that Kobe still hasn't got to the 2nd round without Shaq in light of Reggie's comments. But yes I agree with what you're saying and Kobe is the much better player this season.

Eddie Jones was the leading scorer for the Heat during the regular season that year and had nothing to do with their playoff run :roll:

ok...

You dont agree with what Im saying because youre completely missing my point... Wade "carried" his team to the 2nd round but played in a lesser conference and against lesser competition...

Only reason Kobe hasnt been to the 2nd round without Shaq is because he plays in the loaded West and has run into powerhouse teams in the playoffs... If Lakers played that same crappy Hornets team last year or the year before they would have made it to the 2nd round

Period

That Nicka · Post #96 » by **That Nicka** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:49 am

DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You can't just rely on statistics. The team was visibly lead by Wade in the 2nd half of the season and the playoffs, when they really made their runs.

Youre still missing my point. They still only had 42 wins in the Least, Kobe has done better than that in a better conference

Heat3 · Post #97 » by **Heat3** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:53 am

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Youre still missing my point. They still only had 42 wins in the Least, Kobe has done better than that in a better conference

42 wins because they started 0-7, were suffering injuries and got a new coach they didn't have the benefit of having a preseason with. However after the allstar break that year Miami had the BEST RECORD IN THE NBA.

How far did Kobe get the following year with practically the same key players Wade had?

That Nicka · Post #98 » by **That Nicka** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:54 am

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I was actually talking about Lamar and Eddie Jones who averaged 17ppg each...

The year Kobe missed the playoffs was most similar to this season for the Heat... Kobe was banged up (Like Wade now).. Lamar missed a lot of games (like Shaq) and Caron was little more than just a scorer that didnt play much defense (Davis+Wright)... The difference is still the Lakers finished with 34+ wins a tougher conference while the Heat are one pace to finish with about 14 wins (if that) in one of the weakest conferences OF ALL TIME

Not to mention Lakers were in 7th place that year before Rudy T walked out on the team and Frank FREAKING Hamblan took over... You guys have a hall of fame coach

That Nicka · Post #99 » by **That Nicka** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:55 am

Heat3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

42 wins because they started 0-7, were suffering injuries and got a new coach they didn't have the benefit of having a preseason with. However after the allstar break that year Miami had the BEST RECORD IN THE NBA.

How far did Kobe get the following year with practically the same key players Wade had?

You really wanna use injuries and a new coach as an excuse?

Heat3 · Post #100 » by **Heat3** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:56 am

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You really wanna use injuries and a new coach as an excuse?

You really want to come to the HEAT board and spread your Kobe fanboism? That's what the general board is for...