Spurs @ 76ers 3/15/08

[THFM]

great win for philly, i hated all the calls that the refs were giving or not giving to the spurs. solid game by iggy and a great one by miller. iggy's jumper over bowen was sweet! iggy get paid stay a sixer forever your a much better team player then iverson.

[sixerguy]

this board is so boring!

[Mozy-76er Fan]

WOW - great win. I had a feeling we'd win this one. We are tough at home and the Spurs have been flat lately. A couple of stats stand out 4 TOs for the whole game as a team - that is crazy!

Didn't Al Thornton have 10 TO by himself recently.

Also 24-28 from the FT line.

Seems like 76ers are getting to the line more recently and making more Fts. Coaches are doing something right! We need to get to the line and convert considering we are a slasher team that has poor outside shooting and post play.

I think we will be beat Denver. Wachovia will be hopping with AI in town. Should be a fun night!

Go sixers!

[SendEm]

Without quoting several different people, I am a Sixers supporter FIRST. My interest and loyalties rest with the franchise and NOT the players. Iggy's contract number is going to be inflated by him being a young talent on a team with not so good talent combined with the natural inflation of salaries over the years since he must sign for several years his contract has to be something that will not have him underpaid in respect to the rest of the younger players around the league who will be signing contracts over the next 3 seasons. Billy King did a decent job of offering the "perfect" contract if Iggy is viewed as a future perennial All Star who could one day average 23ppg. But Iggy doesn't have that potential AND Iggy sees himself as more than that. He wants franchise player money. $11.5 million is above the ceiling of money that I believe he is worth because he will never be a perennial All Star and he's only a franchise player in his own mind +agents mind...Being that Kevin Martin and Josh Howard signed for less than what Iggy turned down and have outplayed Iggy this season, their salaries must dictate what Iggy gets.

[Fire BK]

Michael Finley - $21 Mil/yr
Marbury - 20
Iverson - 20
Matrix - 17
Rashard Lewis - 16
Ben Wallace -15
M. Redd - 14
Bibby - 14
Kirilenko - 13
L. Odom - 13
Joe Johnson - 13

Looking back and looking forward,
$11.5 isn't too bad at all.

But how about this game, huh?
The Sixers are making some noise, boys.

[PhilasFinest]

[quote="THFM" iggy get paid stay a sixer forever your a much better team player then iverson.[/quote]

i dont think we should forget what iverson did for the 76ers...Iguodala is a good player and all but being better than iverson is just a hilarious statement.

[SendEm]

Michael Finley - $21 Mil/yr
Marbury - 20
Iverson - 20
Matrix - 17
Rashard Lewis - 16
Ben Wallace -15
M. Redd - 14
Bibby - 14
Kirilenko - 13
L. Odom - 13
Joe Johnson - 13
Looking back and looking forward,
$11.5 isn't too bad at all.

But how about this game, huh?
The Sixers are making some noise, boys.

Sure an average salary of $11.5 isn't the absolute worst in the world when projecting Iggy's talent, certainly he hasn't played on the basketball court like he is worth that kind of money. But it's also reality that Iggy TURNED DOWN that $11.5...

Let's take a look at some in depth salaries:
Caron Butler
$8,218,990 $8,999,980 $9,780,970 $10,561,960
Gerald Wallace
$7,500,000 $8,287,500 $9,075,000 $9,862,500 $10,650,000 $11,437,500
Richard Hamilton
$9,750,000 $10,562,500 $11,375,000
Tayshaun Prince
$8,675,620 $9,500,000 $10,324,380 $11,148,760
Manu
$9,075,000 $9,900,000 $10,725,000
Josh Howard
$9,000,000 $9,945,000 $10,890,000 $11,835,000

Iggy turned a contract which AVERAGED more money per season than any player on that list will make in any SINGLE season outside of Josh Howard in the last year of his deal where he will make $11.8 million dollars. Iggy is seeking more than $11.5 million average per season. Tayshaun Prince has a contract that averages $9.9 million dollars, and Iggy is worth $11.5 million average to you? Iggy is certainly worth less than Tayshaun Prince...

[underpressure]

THFM referred to Iggy as the better team player, what is certainly undeniable.

[Turkleton]

We beat the SAS and all SendEm can do is moan at Iguodala, he's a total gimp.

[dond]

Google "swagger jacking"

I see you have latched on to my GOOGLE comment and are running wild with it .... Glad I could contribute something to your technique ....

Seriously .... google RIGHT-FIGHTER ... you need to know about it.

[dond]

Without quoting several different people, I am a Sixers supporter FIRST. My interest and loyalties rest with the franchise and NOT the players. Iggy's contract number is going to be inflated by him being a young talent on a team with not so good talent combined with the natural inflation of salaries over the years since he must sign for several years his contract has to be something that will not have him underpaid in respect to the rest of the younger players around the league who will be signing contracts over the next 3 seasons. Billy King did a decent job of offering the "perfect" contract if Iggy is viewed as a future perennial All Star who could one day average 23ppg. But Iggy doesn't have that potential AND Iggy sees himself as more than that. He wants franchise player money. $11.5 million is above the ceiling of money that I believe he is worth because he will never be a perennial All Star and he's only a franchise player in his own mind +agents mind...Being that Kevin Martin and Josh Howard signed for less than what Iggy turned down and have outplayed Iggy this season, their salaries must dictate what Iggy gets.

Did I mention .... RIGHT-FIGHTER ?

[dond]

i dont think we should forget what iverson did for the 76ers...Iguodala is a good player and all but being better than iverson is just a hilarious statement.

Well, it is not quite as hilarious when you consider what he actually said ...
He said he is a better TEAM PLAYER than Iverson. I would have to agree on that.

[sixers_610]

Is it me or does Dalembert play Duncan well on a regular basis?

[THFM]

i dont think we should forget what iverson did for the 76ers...Iguodala is a good player and all but being better than iverson is just a hilarious statement.

Well, it is not quite as hilarious when you consider what he actually said ...
He said he is a better TEAM PLAYER than Iverson. I would have to agree on that.

Thank you, Iggy is a way better team player then Iverson. God I cringe when we bring up the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock, and Iverson takes those contested jumpers. All I am saying is, Iggy should get 10 million. He def out played himself, and his defense along with being maybe the best team player this franchise has seen in a long time he deserves it.

[THFM]

Michael Finley - $21 Mil/yr
Marbury - 20
Iverson - 20
Matrix - 17
Rashard Lewis - 16
Ben Wallace -15
M. Redd - 14
Bibby - 14
Kirilenko - 13
L. Odom - 13
Joe Johnson - 13
Looking back and looking forward,
$11.5 isn't too bad at all.

But how about this game, huh?
The Sixers are making some noise, boys.

Sure an average salary of $11.5 isn't the absolute worst in the world when projecting Iggy's talent, certainly he hasn't played on the basketball court like he is worth that kind of money. But it's also reality that Iggy TURNED DOWN that $11.5...

Let's take a look at some in depth salaries:
Caron Butler
$8,218,990 $8,999,980 $9,780,970 $10,561,960
Gerald Wallace
$7,500,000 $8,287,500 $9,075,000 $9,862,500 $10,650,000 $11,437,500
Richard Hamilton
$9,750,000 $10,562,500 $11,375,000
Tayshaun Prince
$8,675,620 $9,500,000 $10,324,380 $11,148,760
Manu
$9,075,000 $9,900,000 $10,725,000
Josh Howard
$9,000,000 $9,945,000 $10,890,000 $11,835,000

Iggy turned a contract which AVERAGED more money per season than any player on that list will make in any SINGLE season outside of Josh Howard in the last year of his deal where he will make $11.8 million dollars. Iggy is seeking more than $11.5 million average per season. Tayshaun Prince has a contract that averages $9.9 million dollars, and Iggy is worth $11.5 million average to you? Iggy is certainly worth less than Tayshaun Prince...

You really think if you swapped out Prince and Iggy and put Iggy on the Pistons and Prince on the 76ers, you think the Sixers would be this good right now? You think Prince can carry a team better then Iggy? I highly doubt it. If Pistons had Iggy instead of Prince they go to the finals. Prince is a great player don't get me wrong, but Iggy is more consistent.

[The Guilty Party]

Let's wait to see what Iguodala's final numbers end up being before we we start to argue about whether he's worth it or not. What he turned down and what he (and Deng and Gordon) actually gets may be the same or it may be less. I'll be happy if he signs a similar deal to what Kevin Martin got.

As for the game.... HUGE WIN! Suddenly this team looks like it has the ability to compete with any team or any night. How that will translate in a 7 game series will be interesting to see but I don't believe Detroit or Orlando are as excited about playing us in ther 1st round as they were a couple of weeks ago.

[darius08]

It's disappointing that very thread degrades back to the exact same argument. A month ago at least there was less to talk about. But with our team now being on such a hot streak, it's frustrating that what could be intelligent conversation gets crowded out by the same rant. Whether you agree with it or not, it's the exact same rant that's been posted roughly 500 times now.

[darius08]

I just wish that - once SendEm gets really ridiculous - that people would just ignore him (as if rational arguing and statistics refuting his position would actually have an impact on the thread)....especially in a game thread. No dig against you, dabods - your points were all great...it just seems that (like Ricky before him) all that it does is take the thing to another level.

I dont think the ignore feature solves the problem. The major problem here is that every thread sinks back to the same mire. I'm not a particular fan of
'Dala (I'd have been happy to see him traded at the deadline) but how often can you have the same conversation? I guess we'll find out!

[dond]

I don't believe Detroit or Orlando are as excited about playing us in ther 1st round as they were a couple of weeks ago.

Exactly ! The Sixers are now a team that is somewhat feared in a tournament environment. They are a team on the rise. No-one likes to face a team that is improving because you never know what you are going to end up facing.

[THFM]

Is it me or does Dalembert play Duncan well on a regular basis?

Yes he does, his length gives Duncan problems just like the other guys on your team. Were so long and athletic that, they gave problems getting around people and were always poking the ball loose. Or in Dalembert's case blocking shots.