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Last Days of Riley behind the bench?

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Post#1 » by Lane1974 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:38 pm

Heat president and coach Pat Riley once said one of his few career regrets was not walking away from the bench two years ago after one of his best seasons as a coach.

Now, Riley appears more inclined to step down following one of his worst -- one, ironically, that featured the announcement of his Hall of Fame induction this fall.

For the third time in a week, Riley has hinted that the final games of the Heat's dismal season just might be his last as a coach. Riley, elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame on Monday, said Wednesday that the induction ''might be something that puts a capper'' on his coaching career after 25 seasons.

Riley's latest comments came Wednesday during a series of prescheduled interviews with local sports-talk radio hosts. The Heat did not practice Wednesday, and Riley declined a request to discuss his future with The Miami Herald.

The Heat, which improved its league-worst record to 14-64 with Tuesday's 95-88 victory over the Bulls, has four games left. It needs two victories to avoid the worst finish in its 20-year history. But Miami also is one loss from clinching the worst record in the league and the top seed for the draft lottery.

Riley told WQAM (560) on Wednesday morning that he would ''make the decision quickly, right after the season,'' regarding his coaching future. He still has two seasons remaining on a contract that allows him to work as president and coach, or exclusively in his front-office role.

Heat owner Micky Arison has said he would support Riley's decision.

Even if he retires as coach, Riley is expected to run the team and guide it through a rebuilding process that could start with landing the first pick in the June 26 draft.

If Riley decides he is done coaching shortly after the season, the Heat could be in play for a handful of top coaching prospects. Mike Fratello, Scott Skiles and University of Florida coach Billy Donovan are among NBA and top college coaches closest to Riley.

Riley, 63, has said his successor would most likely come from his current staff, with assistant Erik Spoelstra being the most likely pick.

But Riley also had said before the season that he would coach the remaining years on his contract. He began to publicly hedge on that commitment as early as Jan. 9, when the Heat fell to 8-28 after a loss at Milwaukee.

'Don't ask me that question. At this time, it's like `Yes' or 'No,' '' Riley said before that game. ``There are hypotheticals in a season like this. You don't want to turn the knife too early on things. Let things work out.''

Not much has worked out for the Heat since then. Miami has had the league's worst record for three months, and it traded center Shaquille O'Neal in a bitter parting Feb. 6. It also has lost five key players, including Dwyane Wade, to season-ending injuries.

About the only bright spot for Riley has been the Hall of Fame process. He will be inducted as part of the six-member class in September.

Riley joked Tuesday that he didn't have many friends in coaching, but plenty respect his accomplishments. During a February interview with The Miami Herald, Hall of Fame coach Lenny Wilkins said Riley has earned the right to go out on his own terms.

Riley's 1,209 career victories rank third among NBA coaches, behind Wilkens and Don Nelson. He has led three franchises to the NBA Finals and has won five championships. He considered retirement after the Heat's title in 2006, but kept the roster intact and attempted to repeat. The Heat is 58-106 since the title run.

''He doesn't have anything else to prove because he's done it all as one of the brilliant minds in this game,'' Wilkens said.

Riley had refused to talk in depth about his immediate future. But when asked last Friday, before a loss at Washington,if he was committed to coaching next season, he said only, ``I'm committed to this team. We've got a lot of work to do, and I don't think that's an issue right now.''

But Riley began to soften on the subject after attending Monday's Hall of Fame announcement during the Final Four in San Antonio. He spoke about ''absolute freedom'' from the grind of nearly 40 years of playing and coaching basketball.

''When you come to a fork in the road, you take it,'' Riley said after Monday's news conference. ``I don't know what it's like. But I think shortly, I'll find out.''



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it kills me that SVG was forced out, he was the perfect person. I wouldn't be surprised if he brings in Fratello and keeps Spoelstra in the bullpen, if he feels Spoelstra isn't ready to run a crappy team. It could ruin Spoelstra's future, ala other former wunderkinds like Eric Musselman.

He could also go with a Skiles, who he must see a little of himself in, or even someone who played under him like Terry Porter.
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Post#2 » by Flash is the Future » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:55 pm

If Shaq wasn't such an **** we'd still have SVG. But we might not have a championship. So it's a sacrifice that had to be made.
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Post#3 » by Lane1974 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:02 am

also, it can't be Donovan, he signed a 5 year non compete clause to get out of his Orlando contract
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Post#4 » by Miami's Finest » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:56 am

I think now is the best time for Riley to go and let the new coach work with the new young team from the start but I worry about the options we have.
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Post#5 » by BFRESH44 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:13 am

Spoelsta FTW.
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Post#6 » by Heat3 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:59 am

From radio interviews I've heard with Riley in the past I think he is done and I think his replacement won't be Spoelstra.
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Post#7 » by dflash3 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:01 am

Stan Van Gundy FTW

I wish :(
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Post#8 » by SUKit » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:12 am

Pat Riley needs to do what is right. He has been a great coach but is time for him to step away as coach of the Miami Heat and have a players coach in place.
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Post#9 » by Flash3 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:18 am

didn't he just say this week he's on board (to coach) for next season, or did I read wrong?

i know for sure as hell, it was what i read. :roll:
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Post#10 » by GameTime_3 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:21 am

I think riley is the right coach with the wrong mentality. Riley needs to look at himself and say"Will i coach for the next 2 years" if the answer is year then he is our and if he cant answer then its time to step down.
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Post#11 » by Hoops23 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:29 pm

The problem if Riley steps down as coach, no one is qualified to replace him. Riley still remains as the best man for the position.

If Riley steps down, I hope he also step down as the Heat GM because no matter what position he is in, there is always someone in the media like ira Winderman to criticize him. I want his absence to be felt for some ignorant persons to know how valuable he is.
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Post#12 » by Heat3 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:50 pm

Hoops23 wrote:The problem if Riley steps down as coach, no one is qualified to replace him. Riley still remains as the best man for the position.

If Riley steps down, I hope he also step down as the Heat GM because no matter what position he is in, there is always someone in the media like ira Winderman to criticize him. I want his absence to be felt for some ignorant persons to know how valuable he is.


hmm....so you'd rather the franchise go to ruins just so some ignorant person can learn something? I'd rather they stay ignorant and my favorite basketball team is run by the best in the business.
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Post#13 » by Flash3 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:05 pm

Hoops23 wrote:The problem if Riley steps down as coach, no one is qualified to replace him. Riley still remains as the best man for the position.

If Riley steps down, I hope he also step down as the Heat GM because no matter what position he is in, there is always someone in the media like ira Winderman to criticize him. I want his absence to be felt for some ignorant persons to know how valuable he is.
Riley's best work has come when he's solely been the GM. You want him to leave that role, too?

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Post#14 » by Hoops23 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:39 pm

Riley's best work has come when he's solely been the GM. You want him to leave that role, too?
I disagree with you that his best works comes when he's solely the GM because he was also successful when he's sole the coach of the team. He was successful as a coach when he was with LAL and NY.

You know I've been a long time fan of this man, not just coaching but his professionalism and dedication on what he does. Riley can do good both doing the job as coach and GM because of his approach and priciples.

The media will always be there to criticize you when things go wrong, always
True but some are doing the crticism because of personal reasons.
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Post#15 » by Flash3 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:13 pm

Well, right now, being solely the coach might not be the right thing for him, but he can still act as President/GM of this team, and do a formidable job of it.
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Post#16 » by HIF » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:30 pm

I hope he stays as both
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Post#17 » by HeatSince88 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:37 pm

Significant Moves While Riley Was Coach
- Drafting Dwyane Wade
- Drafting Caron Butler
- Signing Lamar Odom
- Trading for Zo in his prime
- Trading crap for T Hardaway in his prime
- Trading crap for Mashburn in his prime
- Trading crap for Brian Grant in his prime
- Signing little-known PJ Brown before his prime
- Finding and developing Bruce Bowen
- Trading Mashburn, PJ Brown for E Jones, A Mason, R Davis
- Trading lazy, injured, overpaid Shaq for Shawn Marion
- Trading lazy, overpaid Toine for 17 ppg, expiring Ricky Davis

Significant Moves While Riley Was NOT Coach
- Trading Caron and Odom for Shaq, then $100 million extension
- Trading for J-Will, Posey, Toine making about $7 mill to $8 mill each

My point: the assertion that Riley is a better GM while not coaching is a joke. Even if you liked the move to get Shaq (I did) you still can't overlook that he made tons of great moves (Wade, Zo, Caron, Timmy, Mash, Odom, etc.) while he was also the coach.
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Post#18 » by Hoops23 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:38 pm

For those who say Riley no longer fit today
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Post#19 » by dflash3 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:40 pm

^I concur. Main reason why people feel Riley doesn't fit in today's NBA is that Riley the GM failed Riley the coach. A coach is nothing without a solid cast to lead and motivate. Teamwork is only going to take you so far.
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Post#20 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:03 am

No Pat the Coach failed not Pat the GM. Pat was given Vet player yet he as a coach was inable to motivate them or help them improve there game. Then factor how long it took Pat the coach to give Cook mins and there is no question the failure comes from his inability to Coach this team. The last thing our lottery pick is Pat as a coach.

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