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corona wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
8 seed or not, the team just won 50 games. they're not chopped liver.
denver has averaged more apg in the second half of the season than the lakers. you think all 27 of those come on fastbreaks? yea, they play an isolation offense....but apparently they're pretty damn good at isolations because they're more efficient and prolific than la's offense.
defense? denver gives up 0.4 more points per 100 possessions than the lakers. LA is not a team to talk about defense.
not to mention the irony of any laker fan chastising melo for distracting the team with off the court issues is completely hilarious.
I was thinking the exact same thing when I read their comment. 
Mindflayer wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Spoken like a true troll. See you in two rounds.
Ballin02 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Anyhow, I think this is going to be a more interresting series then the Lakers fans want to admit to. They have changed things around (with the help of Gasol) but lets not get too cocky.... there is only 7 games seperating seeds 1-8, so lets stop acting as if the Lakers are so far above everyone else.
If the Nuggets can keep their heads and get production out of Kmart (who I think is the X factor) and Nene (if he comes back) this could be an interresting series. As much as people talk about Denvers defense, the Lakers defense isn't exactly Spurs-esque themselves. Add that to the fact that out of the four top teams they also have the tendency to play the dumbest at times as well. Either way, I honastly don't think that there are going to be any easy series in the West this year. Its going to be entertaining, thats for sure.
JRmakes_it_rain wrote:My thought on defending Bryant is this.....I know the box in one is very rarely used at the NBA level, but I think if you're serious about making other Lakers beat you, why not give it a shot? Take AC or Kuba, and make it there priority to do nothing but deny Kobe the ball, why the rest of the team is in a zone, but still being aware of who the shooters are on the floor. Frustrate him by denying him the ball, and when he gets into the paint, make it clear that he hits the floor, make him work for his points, while he's trying to guard AI or Melo on the other end of the floor.....just like the pistons did to Jordan in his earlier days..."Jordan Rules". I don't think the rest of the Lakers team is good enough, or talented enough to beat us in a 7 game series. The hard foul has to be utilized, or Kobe will have a field day.
Making him work on defense should also be a focal point for Karl. I know that no team has tried a gimmick d like the box in 1...but why not try and frustrate him right off the bat? I think a zone is the best defense against the triangle, and Kobe....just be aware of who can and can't hurt you with a jumper. I've coached the triangle, I've read books about the triangle, and I watched it all throughout the Bulls title runs.....a zone will force it out of it's normal rhythm.
JRmakes_it_rain wrote:I love Laker fans....I hope their team overlooks us as much as some of the idiots on their board do.
Look how many on your board simply think the Nuggets can beat easily the Lakers ! Someone even said the Nuggets in 5... You see ?!
Defending Bryant
Faced with the challenge of slowing Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, the Nuggets might try something a little unorthodox.
George Karl said he is contemplating a box-and-one defense designed by assistant Mike Dunlap. The box-and-one features four players in a zone and one player playing man-to-man.
Given that Bryant averaged only 22 points in three regular-season games against the Nuggets, Karl might not have to employ the box-and-one strategy, but it is one of dozens of options.
"Basically, you have a package of 30 or 40 ideas . . . so you've got to filter that down to a list of five or six," Karl said. "Those are going to be your emphasis in practice and that's your starting point. The 30 or 40 ideas, hopefully, you don't have to use all of them because usually you go to them when the first ones don't work.
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JRmakes_it_rain wrote:nice thought.....
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2 ... -for-long/Defending Bryant
Faced with the challenge of slowing Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, the Nuggets might try something a little unorthodox.
George Karl said he is contemplating a box-and-one defense designed by assistant Mike Dunlap. The box-and-one features four players in a zone and one player playing man-to-man.
Given that Bryant averaged only 22 points in three regular-season games against the Nuggets, Karl might not have to employ the box-and-one strategy, but it is one of dozens of options.
"Basically, you have a package of 30 or 40 ideas . . . so you've got to filter that down to a list of five or six," Karl said. "Those are going to be your emphasis in practice and that's your starting point. The 30 or 40 ideas, hopefully, you don't have to use all of them because usually you go to them when the first ones don't work.
Can't be any worse then AC trying to guard him.
Bgil wrote:I don't see why this series is going to be any different than the regular season. You guys needed AI to drop 48 in 3 quarters just for you guys to stay in the game. After a quarter or two of getting used to your alley-oops you guys are going to get slaughtered.
j-far wrote:Thats a good strategy imo and both Pistons and Jazz have repeatedly used that tactic against Kobe Bryant, while they also have fantastic man defenders like Prince and AK47. Detroit have been very successful in keeping Bryant quiet with that strategy but Jazz have had no luck at all employing it.
JRmakes_it_rain wrote:nice thought.....
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2 ... -for-long/Defending Bryant
Faced with the challenge of slowing Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, the Nuggets might try something a little unorthodox.
George Karl said he is contemplating a box-and-one defense designed by assistant Mike Dunlap. The box-and-one features four players in a zone and one player playing man-to-man.
Given that Bryant averaged only 22 points in three regular-season games against the Nuggets, Karl might not have to employ the box-and-one strategy, but it is one of dozens of options.
"Basically, you have a package of 30 or 40 ideas . . . so you've got to filter that down to a list of five or six," Karl said. "Those are going to be your emphasis in practice and that's your starting point. The 30 or 40 ideas, hopefully, you don't have to use all of them because usually you go to them when the first ones don't work.
Can't be any worse then AC trying to guard him.
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Unfortunately for you, all 3 games were within I believe 5-6 points after 3 quarters. And that includes the game where Melo went out down 13 before the half.
You aren't convincing anyone with that crap. Come back with something better. Thanks.
el loco wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I think the reason that it works for the Pistons and not the Jazz is the same reason that it might not work very well for us. Neither the Jazz or the Nuggets are the greatest teams in the land at defending the perimeter, but it is worth a shot to see how it does work and it would be a new look for us. If the players buy into it, it may very well work to get the ball out of Kobe's hands and force someone else on the Lakers to step up and carry a big portion of the scoring load, and that's where Camby/Kmart would be key, because that second guy is named Gasol.
I'd just like to quote myself as a big "I told you so".
If you think getting blown out in the late 3rd and 4th quarter instead of the 1st or 2nd is some kind of consolation prize then that just underscores the absurdity of the situation.
I don't see why this series is going to be any different than the regular season. You guys needed AI to drop 48 in 3 quarters just for you guys to stay in the game. After a quarter or two of getting used to your alley-oops you guys are going to get slaughtered.
I simply pointed out that your original assertion is/was incorrect, but apparently it was too complex for you to understand. The Nuggets do NOT need Iverson to drop 48 in 3 quarters to stay in the game based on the FACT that they've also stayed in the game in both of the other ones (one without Melo) up to the 4th quarter and some change without Iverson dropping that many.
