This team is too talented...

LAKESHOW · Post #61 » by **LAKESHOW** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:34 am

KB20 wrote:I think that Kobe will opt out next summer or whenever it is to resign for a longer, slightly cheaper deal so that it's more like $16-$18 million a year instead of the $20 plus it's supposed to go up to. It's up to Lamar if he wants to stay. If he's willing to sign for $8 million a year I'm sure they'll keep him. Anything more and Buss has a big decision to make.

now thats gonna be BIGTIME news. kobe a paycut? thats going to be interesting to see.

LAKESHOW · Post #62 » by **LAKESHOW** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:35 am

LAKESHOW wrote:i cant stand lamar. so whats new.

HOWEVER, there is one thing that cannot be overlooked. and it must be taken seriously into consideration.

and that is the chemistry between lamar and pau. that tandem with their passing and style of game just seem to fit. much better than kobe and lamar. or lamar and whoever else hes ever played with. goin back to his clipper days.

what lamar and pau has got goin on, is tantamount to finding his "soulmate" on the basketball court. they look for each other. they see eachother. they set each other up. each others game seems to be tailor made for eachother. just on another level how they both see the floor with one anohter.

other than that gigantic tandem that could carry us to the title game, dump him.

and oh yeah, we dont actually have to worry about it, Dr. Buss will. I have faith he will make the correct move.

Verbal · Post #63 » by **Verbal** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:39 am

This team could certainly use some improvements.

However, it's important to note that internal improvements are the safest road.

Especially since it's a bad idea to depend on a reluctant GM that lucks out on divine intervention and help from more interested individual(s).

Verbal · Post #64 » by **Verbal** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:41 am

LAKESHOW wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

and oh yeah, we dont actually have to worry about it, Dr. Buss will. I have faith he will make the correct move.

As long as he's willing to CTC...

certain men can guarantee success.

Post #65 » by **dockingsched** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:57 am

LAKESHOW wrote:i cant stand lamar. so whats new.

you're a dying breed. there is zero reason to not like lamar right now.

Verbal · Post #66 » by **Verbal** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:04 am

For the record, I think Odom would be an excellent 2nd co-leader, or 3rd string glue for us or any team. -Verbal (Almost a year ago)

^Just a snippet.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic. ... &start=480

Verbal just wants his props is all. :smile:

LAKESHOW · Post #67 » by **LAKESHOW** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:31 pm

dcash4 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you're a dying breed. there is zero reason to not like lamar right now.

ahahaha, cash, it is his chemistry right now that is making him a new man. again, i gave him props for that. take him off this team and pay him big money to go to another team, and individually, he will revert back to normal. thats a fact.

the thread however makes a good point. money wise? there are some big decisions to be made. but i'll give you that, he lives here with pau. and that is his running mate. pau and kobe aint going anywhere. but there is a decision with the rest of the money being spread around. and if they are big on bynum, and with lamar with his ending contract, he just might be the odd man out. good thing is for you lamar fans is, he has some time left before the chariot turns into pumpkin.

El Hardee · Post #68 » by **El Hardee** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:42 pm

Howabout we just give LO his due. Its playoff time, LO has always played big in the playoffs even when he was in Miami. Its wasnt just cause of the size advantage he had on Marion, my boy is just a bad motor scooter. Lamar has been my fav Laker right when we got him. BIG UPS TO LAMAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

Post #69 » by **Slava** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:18 pm

I don't see anyone other than KG guarding Odom 1 on 1 in the NBA. WHich is why it'd be very important for us to get Bynum back and running at full strength if we match up with the Celtics. KG will be forced to guard Gasol and that'd mean Pierce on Odom with Ray Ray on Kobe. :lol:

El Hardee · Post #70 » by **El Hardee** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:27 pm

Per GumbyGld, Bynum is going to need surgery in the offseason. The only reason he hasnt had it yet is we are hoping to have him for some spot minutes by the WCF, but its not looking good. Sorry J-far we might have to wait to see a Bynum, Lamar, Pau front court. :banghead:

Post #71 » by **Slava** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:48 pm

Ah! Thats something new about his situation and def. doesn't sound any good.

Erik Eleven · Post #72 » by **Erik Eleven** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:36 pm

If the Lakers should go on to win it all, are we still too talented? Should we still trade Lamar? Would Buss still have an issue with the lux tax? In my opinion, No, No, and No.

Post #73 » by **dockingsched** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:44 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

ahahaha, cash, it is his chemistry right now that is making him a new man. again, i gave him props for that. take him off this team and pay him big money to go to another team, and individually, he will revert back to normal. thats a fact.

, well first its not a fact. second, who cares? lamar is on the lakers and is a big part of being a contender. how he would do on another team is SO irrelevant.

the thread however makes a good point. money wise? there are some big decisions to be made. but i'll give you that, he lives here with pau. and that is his running mate. pau and kobe aint going anywhere. but there is a decision with the rest of the money being spread around. and if they are big on bynum, and with lamar with his ending contract, he just might be the odd man out. good thing is for you lamar fans is, he has some time left before the chariot turns into pumpkin.

i'm a lakers fan. lamar is on the lakers so i'm a fan of his. the fact that he's playing great is just icing on the cake. thanks for the label though.

LAKESHOW · Post #74 » by **LAKESHOW** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:55 pm

"how he would do on another team is SO irrelevant."

that is the point of the thread, so how can it be irrelevant. the thread is about money, contracts, ending contracts and where folks will fit when the money starts coming down. and as of now, you dont see mitch kupchak jumping out of his seat ready with pen to re-ink odom. which leaves the door open FOR THE STRONG possibility that he may not be here for long.

believe this, kobe yells. mitch comes runnin with ink and paper. paus contract is remotely close to ending, mitchs comes a runnin with ink and paper. when asked about odom, SHEER HESITANCY comes in the voice of mitch. why is that?

and secondly, please, you may have jumped on the bandwagon to the LAKERs, but you and I know, you are a clipper import.

Kreuk · Post #75 » by **Kreuk** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:55 pm

EE,

Buss is a smart man and I'm sure he knows that paying the most salary doesn't necessarily translate into winning championships (New York Yankees).

So how much salary do you think Buss will take on? I mean, honestly? $80-$100 million range?... or $100+ million dollar range or what?

YiYaoYue · Post #76 » by **YiYaoYue** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:40 pm

how much did he go up to when lakers had shaq and kobe? i dont think he'll drop any lower that that, maybe go higher.

Post #77 » by **dockingsched** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:09 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:"how he would do on another team is SO irrelevant."

that is the point of the thread, so how can it be irrelevant. the thread is about money, contracts, ending contracts and where folks will fit when the money starts coming down.....

u quoted my comment about people that don't like lamar being a dying breed. i wasn't talking about money, contracts, etc. your comment about how lamar would do on another team is indeed irrelevant to my assertion.

so, again, people that don't like lamar are getting smaller by the day. there really is no reason at all. he's playing great, he's playing smart, he's playing consistent ball. why in the heck wouldn't u like him? it doesn't make any sense other than putting your own interests in front of the lakers interest. lamar has been playing good, which helps the lakers win. so, does that mean u can't stand that the lakers are winning?

LAKESHOW · Post #78 » by **LAKESHOW** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:49 am

your saying lamar is playing great. how long ago did this greatness come about? exactly, right when pau gasol came to town. his greatness comes from having to be a 3rd wheel. and i for one am very happy to see the teams success. but what is relevant about "another team," is the money part. THE MONEY DOESNT MATCH! we are waaay over the capspace. things they dont have to worry about in clipper nation. but we have a history of that here.

its one of the reasons why we didnt give the fat shaq an overbloated contract. he wasnt given that contract that was waaay too much on the high end. now if thats the case for shaq, when it comes to kobe, bynum, pau and lamar, there is a strong possibility that lamar could be the man left out of the mix. and if he is, lamar going to another team WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME IMPACT THAT HE IS HAVING HERE!! therefore, relevent.

place lamar on that other team, and i guarantee he will not have that same impact.

"so, again, people that don't like lamar are getting smaller by the day. there really is no reason at all."

no reason at all? his struggles are documented. his lapeses are documented. his going into hiding is documented. people are happy with lamar, but that is only a recent turn of events. again, THIS YEAR! WITH PAU, thats where his greatness comes about.

BUT WHEN THE MONEY COMES DOWN, and hard decisions have to be made, and should he go off into the sunset . . . his so called short lived greatness will come to an end.

Post #79 » by **dockingsched** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:02 am

u bring up playing well with pau as if its a bad thing :lol:

LAKESHOW · Post #80 » by **LAKESHOW** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:14 am

nope. he has transformed the team. mitch did a great job in bringing this steal to the franchise. but believe this, without pau, there is no lamar. thats already proven. and once again, when the decision must be made between bynums contract and lamars . . .