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This is probably why Ray Ray has been struggling...

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This is probably why Ray Ray has been struggling... 

Post#1 » by DieselCeltic » Tue May 20, 2008 3:48 pm

I won't say I'm an INSIDER or anything like that but I do know people that are NOT close to Ray's family in CT but they are telling me there was/were some death threats going against some of his closest family members.

Jim Rome is Burning reported that Ray Allen's family is and has been dealing with some dissasterous family issue's. He wont use it as an excuse and he wont talk about it publically. Greg Anthony who did the report didn't even get into what the issues were but just said it is some serious stuff involving his mother and step father, an attempted murder of his step dad and them being in the witness protection program or something of that sort. This could have alot to do with his struggles. Family is more important then basketball.

Then another reports are coming in saying his father was threatened by Colombian drug dealers saying they will spray their house with uzi's and kill all of them.

Something is going on. You can tell on that poor guys face.
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Post#2 » by MyInsatiableOne » Tue May 20, 2008 3:52 pm

I do know I read somewhere someone put out a contract on his dad/step-dad with a hitman. A rival shrink, I think (Ray's dad/step-dad is a shrink)

Poor guy...Celtic Nation stands with you and supports you, Ray!
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Post#3 » by Rocky5000 » Tue May 20, 2008 4:03 pm

Here's the summary from E:60
Even as the resurgent Boston Celtics ride their sensational season deep into the playoffs, guard Ray Allen and his family are dealing with far more significant issues involving the attempted murder of Allen
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Post#4 » by cloverleaf » Tue May 20, 2008 4:06 pm

Then it's too bad he chose to publicly blame Rondo--and imply that Sam would do better by him:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/?p1=H ... odaysPaper
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Post#5 » by DieselCeltic » Tue May 20, 2008 4:20 pm

cloverleaf wrote:Then it's too bad he chose to publicly blame Rondo--and imply that Sam would do better by him:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/?p1=H ... odaysPaper


can you give us a better link ? i cant find anything
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Post#6 » by LenBiasBaller » Tue May 20, 2008 4:31 pm

So he worked yesterday on establishing that rhythm, but made it clear he was not going to do it by himself.

"As easy as it'd be for me to get the ball and carve out some space and get a shot up, that's not what we want on offense as a team," he said. "So I rely on my teammates."

Rajon Rondo, in particular.

"With Rajon, he's the point guard and I think he has to become more aware of just getting me more easier looks," said Allen. "The whole team does."

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... hm/?page=2
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Post#7 » by DieselCeltic » Tue May 20, 2008 4:40 pm

Thanks. I do agree with what he says. For the most part they don't even involve him in the offense. As much as I like Pierce and what he did in the game 7 vs the Cavs he was a bit selfish. I bet KG and Ray Ray were upset...Maybe I'm wrong
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Post#8 » by LenBiasBaller » Tue May 20, 2008 4:41 pm

I think they took it out of context to be honest. Maybe with everything going on he's starting to give in a bit. He has a lot of crap going on in his life it sucks he has to deal w/ the media on top of that.

He'll get out of it i'm sure...That murder for hire trial is over now so hopefully him and his family can move on. His mom and Step father started coming to the games so that is a good sign.
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Post#9 » by LenBiasBaller » Tue May 20, 2008 4:45 pm

I agree its impossible to get stuff going if the ball isnt moving. The guy averaged 26 last year 2nd in the NBA in scoring...so i'm pretty sure Ray isnt the problem its fitting into the system thats the problem.

Also, everytime the Celtics had multiple days off during the season Ray would always have his best games. He needs rest for those ankles its evident in his jumper when they play back-to-backs,etc.

We arent getting any 2-3 day breaks anymore so he just has to take it easy on off-days, and hope that his teamates get him involved.
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Post#10 » by LenBiasBaller » Tue May 20, 2008 4:48 pm

When a Guy drops 41 and leads you to the ECF its hard to be mad at him.

If i'm ballin at the Park and someone is lights out and you are winning all your games it doesnt bother you. If he is throwin up bricks left and right and you start losing thats when you get pissed off....
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Post#11 » by celticfan42487 » Tue May 20, 2008 4:54 pm

unless you're a starting to be a wahsed up, has been all-star and are struggling so mightly that you don't deserve open shots because you brick them. And you have phycological promblems where if bothers you to no end that you suck.
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Post#12 » by cloverleaf » Tue May 20, 2008 5:10 pm

Sorry about the link. He's another part, where he follows up his complaints about Rondo with gushing about Sam and how Sam'll try to straighten Rondo out.

"Sam has always helped me," Allen said. "We've always been a great tandem. Even when he's on the bench, just some of the things he sees out there, he's going to make sure he puts them in Rondo's ear and even myself. He knows how to get scoring opportunities off of me and for me.

"He's more efficient than most guys I've played with in my career."
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Post#13 » by DieselCeltic » Tue May 20, 2008 5:16 pm

Ray will be alright. I know that. I do agree. Rondo should find him more. I feel like he only passes to KG and Pierce.
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Post#14 » by MyInsatiableOne » Tue May 20, 2008 5:43 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:unless you're a starting to be a wahsed up, has been all-star and are struggling so mightly that you don't deserve open shots because you brick them. And you have phycological promblems where if bothers you to no end that you suck.


^^Wow, you're a **** ****!

Congrats! :roll: :noway:

May someone put out a contract on YOUR father (I don't mean that seriously, but wow, what a **** jerk!)
It's still 17 to 11!!!!
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Post#15 » by armageddon » Tue May 20, 2008 5:46 pm

Maybe Ray should hang with Sam a little more......on the bench.
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Post#16 » by cisco » Tue May 20, 2008 5:51 pm

DieselCeltic wrote:Thanks. I do agree with what he says. For the most part they don't even involve him in the offense. As much as I like Pierce and what he did in the game 7 vs the Cavs he was a bit selfish. I bet KG and Ray Ray were upset...Maybe I'm wrong


Why would you call Pierce selfish when what he did was the game plan? :roll:

KG said the plan was to "get the ball to PP and get the __ out of the way". Would you rather have Ray take all those shots knowing he wasn't knocking anything down? What about KG, who shot poorly in game 7? What about House who also shot poorly? There was a reason that was the plan, because no one else was getting it done.
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Post#17 » by celticfan42487 » Tue May 20, 2008 6:00 pm

MyInsatiableOne wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



^^Wow, you're a **** ****!

Congrats! :roll: :noway:

May someone put out a contract on YOUR father (I don't mean that seriously, but wow, what a **** jerk!)


maybe Ray's that self involved maybe he's not. Neither of us truely know.
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Post#18 » by sully00 » Tue May 20, 2008 6:20 pm

There is something to what Ray is saying and he also has away of saying things rather bluntly than can make them more uncomfortable than he meant them to be.

I don't think it is Rondo's fault he is doing what he is told, get the ball inside to KG and work it inside out. But CLE did a good job of disrupting what Boston wanted to do space and timing wise. It takes too long to get it to KG and by then the clock is running down and they would end up with both Pierce and Ray coming to the same side of the court to get the ball.

It is about winning the game and if Ray standing at the 3pt line frozen out of the offense frees Pierce and KG up one on one and we win so be it.
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Post#19 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Tue May 20, 2008 6:29 pm

1. Calling Paul selfish is laughable

2. Ray wasn't putting down Rondo or suggesting Cassell should be starting. He and Sam go back to Milwaukee. You don't know the context in which those quotes were given.

3. All Ray needs is ONE bust-out game. He's dealing with distractions but distractions don't make you shoot *this* badly. He had two WIDE open shots that he just blew. It's rhythm, like the article says. He needs to keep shooting until he finds the rhythm. I'll tell you one thing: WE ARE NOT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT ANY CONTRIBUTION FROM RAY ALLEN. So stop with the "start Tony Allen" crap. Ray's not 60 years old, he doesn't have cancer or even a broken bone. He's ice cold. He needs to heat up. I'm not sure how, but it just needs to happen. Or we're dead.
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Post#20 » by SeizeCoup » Tue May 20, 2008 7:01 pm

If Ray's shot is ON this team is hard to beat. But we've also learned that he can be COMPLETELY OFF and the team can still win. Probably hard for them to win a championship though if he keeps up the brick city. He can't think about it (an impossible task considering his personality) if he wants to be a factor, he has to shoot unconsciously, find a rhythm, be a deadly assassin.

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