Blatche arrested.

[Buck You]

It was Awvee Storey, not Blatche.

Awvee Storey is a pimp. He's got that 12 foot jumper down pat.

[rockymac52]

^he's also got the sucker punch down pat from what I hear haha

[Buck You]

^he's also got the sucker punch down pat from what I hear haha

He's made a few mistakes in his life... But he's one helluva towel waver!!

[miller31time]

Wow your going way too far.You don't even know Blatche yet you can degrade him like that.

I'm not saying he's a bad person. He actually seems like a really nice guy. There's no shame in saying he's unintelligent, though. He is. Listen to the grammar in his interviews. Look at his past problems. Look at his current problems. He's given the public plenty of evidence to go off of. No, I haven't sat down with him and had coffee, but you don't need to do that to gauge this kind of thing. He's immature and not very bright.

He makes some bad decisions off the court. Wish the Wizards were a real quality NBA team and could have real vets mentor him. He has the talent to be a good player in this league but he needs a real vet to show him the ropes.

You mean like possibly the best mentor in the game of basketball today - Antawn Jamison? Say what you want about Antawn Jamison, regarding his defense, but you cannot possibly deny that he's a great mentor for all he's around, and those who don't become better human beings aren't looking to become them.

[Hard2dhole]

Miller31time by now you of all people should all realize there will be some (realGM Fanatics) who will defend NBA Ballers for anything.

[TheKingOfVa360]

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You mean like possibly the best mentor in the game of basketball today - Antawn Jamison? Say what you want about Antawn Jamison, regarding his defense, but you cannot possibly deny that he's a great mentor for all he's around, and those who don't become better human beings aren't looking to become them.

Jamison is not enough. He needs a KG type of guy that he respects. I don't think he respects AJ.

[miller31time]

Jamison is not enough. He needs a KG type of guy that he respects. I don't think he respects AJ.

That's purely, 100% speculative and un-probable.. I have yet to hear of a player who doesn't respect Antawn Jamison. In fact, he's one of the most respected players in the league.

Like I said, if you can't learn from Antawn in terms of growing as a person, you're not interested in doing so, because there really isn't a much better option.

If, on the off-chance, you're correct in that he doesn't respect Antawn Jamison, then that only bolsters my initial point that he isn't an intelligent person.

[TheKingOfVa360]

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That's purely, 100% speculative and un-probable.. I have yet to hear of a player who doesn't respect Antawn Jamison. In fact, he's one of the most respected players in the league.

Like I said, if you can't learn from Antawn in terms of growing as a person, you're not interested in doing so, because there really isn't a much better option.

If, on the off-chance, you're correct in that he doesn't respect Antawn Jamison, then that only bolsters my initial point that he isn't an intelligent person.

Your probably right but I just don't think the Wizards have enough vets with championship experience on the team but that's besides the point. It seems Blatche will never mature.

[miller31time]

Your probably right but I just don't think the Wizards have enough vets with championship experience on the team but that's besides the point. It seems Blatche will never mature.

The thing is that, unless the Wizards are able to acquire a star big-man (which isn't likely, and pretty darn rare), then Blatche is our best bet at that sort of player. He's shown significant growth in his game the past season. Let's just hope he spends more time practicing than he does partying.

[Hypz]

What a stupid way to throw away your career, and with it maybe your life.

[Liqourish]

The scroll on the bottom on ESPN last night mentioned that this was the THIRD time he's been busted for driving on a suspended liscence.

Can't say he made a "mistake" when it's the third time.

Your probably right but I just don't think the Wizards have enough vets with championship experience on the team but that's besides the point.

Since when does KG have "championship experience"? He played his very first game in the finals..... last night.

But wait... it was you who said..

He needs a KG type of guy that he respects.

You don't need to have "championship experience" to be a role model. Role models are besides the point once you get into getting caught soliciting prostitutes.

[realball]

Well, Blatche has been criticized by his fellow teammates about being lazy. I remember reading an article where Jamison talked about how he Blatche was always the last person to enter practice and the first to leave.

Followed by the fact that he solicited a prosititute, and simply hasn't been able to keep a clean nose, imply validates Miller31time's point. He is an idiot.

[positivetension]

Yeah, he's pretty stupid.

Not so much the speeding thing. We all do that on a regular basis. More so the driving on a suspended license. That's just idiotic.

But to address something mentioned in this thread, he didn't do the carjacking. He was the one being carjacked, and then was shot. That was not his fault at all.

The prostitute thing....yeah....as I said, he's an idiot.

Everyone says "I don't blame him for the carjacking" but realistically who thinks that he didn't put himself in the dumb situation? If he was downtown looking for hookers a year later only god knows what he was doing that night.

[Flash3]

you'd think that athletes in general have everything in a silver platter (of sorts), and that they'd do everything in their power to keep it that way.

Some, aren't smart and seem to appreciate what they've worked so hard for and been given; Melo and his marijuana. Michael Vick and his dog abusing ring. DeMarr Johnson and his most recent incident. And, so many other examples.

/rant

[magicfan4life05]

I do not want to generalize but i think it is situations like these, along with a lot of other reasons, which made stern want to implement the new age limit.

[Rooster]

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The thing is that, unless the Wizards are able to acquire a star big-man (which isn't likely, and pretty darn rare), then Blatche is our best bet at that sort of player. He's shown significant growth in his game the past season. Let's just hope he spends more time practicing than he does partying.

Say what? My first thought when I read this was "trade him". If I were Grunfeld, I'd ship his ass on draft day.

Washington doesn't need a star big man, it needs a backcourt.

[miller31time]

Say what? My first thought when I read this was "trade him". If I were Grunfeld, I'd ship his ass on draft day.

Washington doesn't need a star big man, it needs a backcourt.

Firstly, it would be awfully foolish to sell low. This is probably the point of time at which Blatche's trade value is as bad as it's ever been. Wait some time, let this all pass, and IF we want to pursue a trade, do it when he's got some games under his belt and regained some trade value.

Regarding the Wizards needs, our back-court is just fine. We have a young star guard who can single-handedly win the Wizards any game on any stage. We also have a defensive, 3pt shooting 2-guard who doesn't need the ball to be effective in Stevenson. Could we upgrade? Sure, but it isn't necessary. What we need, and what most of not all championship teams need to contend, is a two-way big man (pf or c). Jamison can score well, but he's not the defender we need. Now, unless we can trade our young'ins, fillers and picks for Elton Brand (already extremely unlikely), our only option is to develop what we have. Blatche has the potential to be an All-Star, two-way PF/C in this league. There are certainly things holding him back (stupidity at the forefront), but we're not left with many choices, so we are forced to play the hand we're dealt.

[Rooster]

OK, it's disagreeing time.

On Blatche, his situation seems simple to me. The longer he's a Wizard,
a) the less potential he will supposedly have
b) the closer he will be to having to be re-signed/extended
c) the more stupid stuff he will do
Why keep him any longer than you have to? Teams will jump at young, versatile, 6'11" guys on cheap contracts. Take advantage of that while you still can. If not on draft day, do it in the summer, when the dust has settled at least a little.

Also, you guys have an amazing frontcourt. Butler is your best player, Jamison is a 20/10 guy (of which there are very few!) despite his awful defence, and Haywood is a very good starting centre. In the backcourt, you have a ball-hog who can't/doesn't play defence, and you have a guy named DeShawn. Which one really needs more upgrading?

For the record, I think the bench is where you guys really need help.

And none of this "oh yeah, well you're a Raptors fan" stuff in retaliation. I'm willing to trade anyone but Bosh...

[miller31time]

OK, it's disagreeing time.

You know I'm always up for a good disagreement.

On Blatche, his situation seems simple to me. The longer he's a Wizard,
a) the less potential he will supposedly have
b) the closer he will be to having to be re-signed/extended
c) the more stupid stuff he will do
Why keep him any longer than you have to? Teams will jump at young, versatile, 6'11" guys on cheap contracts. Take advantage of that while you still can. If not on draft day, do it in the summer, when the dust has settled at least a little.

I guarantee that you wouldn't have said this 2 days ago. The funny thing about people (I'm talking in general, here) is that they actually don't hold a grudge for long. A few days ago, Blatche was still the young, promising, potential-packed, future-star-written-all-over-him forward/center as Wizards fans liked him to be known as. And this was after a prostitution scandal. So why are people so forgiving? Because it happened before the season, giving Andray plenty of time to showcase his immense on-court development and giving the average fan reason to think he'll be a very good player in this league. Ernie Grunfeld could have done what a lot of people would have -- given up on the kid. No need to sign him to a long-term contract (albeit a cheap one), because they kid's got too many issues. But he did sign him to a long-term contract, and sure as you know it, Blatche built up that trade value due to impressive performances on the court.

I'm saying that we follow the same protocol this time around. Don't sell low. Wait until he's built up that name again, and if (IF) we feel the need, trade when his stock is higher than it is now (ie: pretty much any time other than....now).

Also, you guys have an amazing frontcourt. Butler is your best player, Jamison is a 20/10 guy (of which there are very few!) despite his awful defence, and Haywood is a very good starting centre. In the backcourt, you have a ball-hog who can't/doesn't play defence, and you have a guy named DeShawn. Which one really needs more upgrading?

For the record, I think the bench is where you guys really need help.

And none of this "oh yeah, well you're a Raptors fan" stuff in retaliation. I'm willing to trade anyone but Bosh...

First of all, don't let an injury-riddled season from Arenas fool you. He's our best player and anyone who says otherwise is going to be in the minority, big-time. Butler is a great 2nd option, but there are things he simply cannot do. One is take a game over by himself on a regular basis. Two is create his own shot on a regular basis. And three is have the mentality of a #1 option. Arenas has all three of those pre-requisites, and, prior to injury, was a 30pt/6ast/5reb/2stl player with sky-high offensive efficiency. He doesn't play good defense, but he certainly has the ability. Remember, he JUST turned 26 years old. Just because he's had a lot of success from early in his career doesn't mean he can't and won't improve other aspects of his game as he matures both physically and mentally.

I'm not going to cover the "ball-hog" part much because it's been beaten to death. In short, he's the best player on the best offensive team in the Eastern Conference (yup, even better and more efficient than your very own Raptors who possess a good offense). The tempo he creates strictly by being on the court and pushing the ball automatically gives the Wizards an advantage on the fast-break, making his less than perfect shot selection a bit easier to swallow. Then, there's the fact that he manages to find shots for two All-Star caliber players who can't really create their own shot on a consistent basis, yet both score at or above 20 points per game. It's been said many times -- "there are plenty of things to criticize Arenas for, but his offense isn't one of them."

Next point -- Jamison is a 20/10 player and a damn good mentor and captain, but one thing he is not is a 2-way big-man. Brendan Haywood is an excellent defensive player, but one thing he is not is a 2-way big-man. As I've said, one common component of championship teams is that power forward or center who can play above average on both ends of the floor. Washington doesn't have that currently, but Blatche is certainly our only player who can become this.

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[EvadedHavoc]

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