Official Wizards Draft Thread: Version 2.0

Post #81 » by **nate33** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:50 am

Hey,
You're the one trading for Kapono. I'm just trying to get a sharpshooting 5th guard at a cheaper price.

I'd gladly trade AD for a defensive wing. Jeffries is a possibility, though I think NY should throw in some thing extra since we're providing cap relief.

Dat2U · Post #82 » by **Dat2U** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:55 am

nate33 wrote:I'd gladly trade AD for a defensive wing. Jeffries is a possibility, though I think NY should throw in some thing extra since we're providing cap relief.

Geez, can't we just let the Jeffries thing die. In fact, lets just put the idea of all these former Wizards returning to DC to rest. O-Face, Juan, Arvis, Larry etc. The past is not going to move this organization forward. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to revisit the past. Especially with Jeffries, his so-called defense doesn't offset how bad he is. He just plain sucks.

closg00 · Post #83 » by **closg00** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:34 am

According to today's Examiner (paper, not online), Roy Hibbert is still slotted to be drafted in the 20's, and that the Wizards are not interested.....time to move-on and discuss realistic picks for us at 18. I would guess if Speights is there at 18, then that's our guy.

fishercob · Post #84 » by **fishercob** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:04 pm

Well if it's been printed in a newspaper -- the Examiner, no less -- then it must be true.

Soup's Uncle · Post #85 » by **Soup's Uncle** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:19 pm

Yeah, who reads the examiner.

Soup's Uncle · Post #86 » by **Soup's Uncle** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:19 pm

Yeah...I purposely left out the question mark...

Da HomeTeam · Post #87 » by **Da HomeTeam** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:33 pm

Other picks that we’re hearing rumors about include #6 (New York, trying to move up, or back), #19 (Cleveland, possibly to move up and take Brandon Rush), and #29 (Detroit, who supposedly isn’t enamored by anyone in this area). Two teams that are reportedly looking to acquire an additional first round pick are the Spurs (who unfortunately have very little to offer) and the Suns. The Wizards wouldn’t mind moving out if someone would offer them a good deal involving a point guard, but at this point that doesn’t seem likely to happen. Cleveland is trying to buy their way into the mid-first round, but unlike in years past, it won’t be Phoenix that is selling.

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/

closg00 · Post #88 » by **closg00** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:14 pm

Soup's Uncle wrote:Yeah, who reads the examiner.

Yeah, the Examiner is a rag, but it is another source of info, and they have scooped the Post several times on Wiz stuff as has the Moonie Washington Times.

Regardless, it fits-in with everything that's being written about Hibbert......but could end up being totally wrong, it wouldn't be the first time sports writers got it wrong.

Soup's Uncle · Post #89 » by **Soup's Uncle** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:35 pm

I honestly see Hibbert getting picked beofre us if anything.

Post #90 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:42 pm

Here's a site with a unique way of rating prospects. http://scoutingthenba.com/

Soup's Uncle · Post #91 » by **Soup's Uncle** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:58 pm

Ruzious wrote:Here's a site with a unique way of rating prospects. http://scoutingthenba.com/

The thing I don't liek about this site is that they are dealing in absolutes... :wavefinger:

Only a sith deals in absolutes...
:starwars

newslowsad · Post #92 » by **newslowsad** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:25 pm

Jonathan Wallace working out with the Wiz today.

The Wizards will continue their pre-draft workouts today at Verizon Center. The Wizards will be bringing in the following six players.

Alexis Ajinca - France
Stanley Burrell - Xavier
J.J. Hickson - NC State
Walter Sharpe - UAB
Darian Townes - Arkansas
Jonathan Wallace - Georgetown
The Wizards may bring in players on Tuesday or this could be the last workouts before Draft Day on Tuesday. I will be heading down around 11:30, if you have any questions please let me know.

fishercob · Post #93 » by **fishercob** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:30 pm

Wallace would be worth a look in Summer League, especially if we take big Hibbs.

80sballboy · Post #94 » by **80sballboy** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:33 pm

Ajinca won't be there at 18. Hickson will. I think Hickson is going to be a beast, but he should have stayed a year. It may take him a few years to become an impact player though he already has the body. Could have been a lottery pick. I still think they trade out of the first round. Seattle has like fifty picks, though they are trying to move up.

closg00 · Post #95 » by **closg00** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:07 pm

newslowsad wrote:Jonathan Wallace working out with the Wiz today.

The Wizards will continue their pre-draft workouts today at Verizon Center. The Wizards will be bringing in the following six players.

Alexis Ajinca - France
Stanley Burrell - Xavier
J.J. Hickson - NC State
Walter Sharpe - UAB
Darian Townes - Arkansas
Jonathan Wallace - Georgetown
The Wizards may bring in players on Tuesday or this could be the last workouts before Draft Day on Tuesday. I will be heading down around 11:30, if you have any questions please let me know.

Ajinca & Hickson :nod:

This totally made my day that we are working these guys out. I am convinced now that we will be taking BPA big, with Veremeenko & Pesh as potential trade filler. ...or we draft and stash Ajinca while we let Pesh's rook contract run out. Heck, Abe may have told Ernie to get rid of AB for all we know.

As much as I thought that Hibbert would have been the perfect back-up for BTH, I am now excited at the prospect of having an atheletic big in our ranks. :clap:

Singeltary or Mike taylor in the second would be great.

Post #96 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:06 pm

80sballboy wrote:Ajinca won't be there at 18.

Agreed. With Robin Lopez now rumored to go to NJ at #10 and Hibbert reportedly continuing to fall, I don't think Ajinca lasts past Toronto at #17. Him and Bosh together could be scary in a couple years.

closg00 · Post #97 » by **closg00** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:31 pm

LyricalRico wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Ajinca won't be there at 18.

Agreed. With Robin Lopez now rumored to go to NJ at #10 and Hibbert reportedly continuing to fall, I don't think Ajinca lasts past Toronto at #17. Him and Bosh together could be scary in a couple years.

The other bigs that Toronto has worked could be there at 17 also.

Devon Hardin
Kosta Koufos
Darrell Arthur
Jason Thompson

NiteOwl · Post #98 » by **NiteOwl** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:31 pm

Anyone but a 7' jump shooting PF/C. I would prefer the pick of a player that has a more polished but maybe somewhat limited game as opposed to a big potential guy. Plenty of those already on the team. IMO, getting a role player that can be effictive in this role is the better choice.

That being said if someone drops that shouldn't have, take him.

NbdyBeatsTheWiz · Post #99 » by **NbdyBeatsTheWiz** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:03 pm

NiteOwl wrote:Anyone but a 7' jump shooting PF/C. I would prefer the pick of a player that has a more polished but maybe somewhat limited game as opposed to a big potential guy. Plenty of those already on the team. IMO, getting a role player that can be effictive in this role is the better choice.

That being said if someone drops that shouldn't have, take him.

Totally agree. That's why you can count me in on drafting somebody like Hibbert if he's there, and Chalmers slowly grows on me. And that's why I'm not against trading the pick if the correct opportunity would arise. Outside of Rondo (who went from "potential" to solid pretty quickly), what put the Celts over the hump this year were vets and highly experienced players like Posey, House, Cassell, Brown, and the Big 3. We've got a lot of developing talent as is with Young, Blatche, Pech, and DMac. Give me a Posey/Hunter type for our pick and I'd be more than happy.

Post #100 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:09 pm

closg00 wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Ajinca won't be there at 18.

Agreed. With Robin Lopez now rumored to go to NJ at #10 and Hibbert reportedly continuing to fall, I don't think Ajinca lasts past Toronto at #17. Him and Bosh together could be scary in a couple years.

The other bigs that Toronto has worked could be there at 17 also.

Devon Hardin
Kosta Koufos
Darrell Arthur
Jason Thompson

Arthur is supposedly going to the Kings (12) and I don't think he'd last past Philly (16). Thompson and Hardin are borderline second round picks so it would really be a reach to take either at 17.

Koufos would be there but I don't think he's what they'd be looking for. He's a high-post center that's short on athleticism (they already have that in Rasho). Since they are already such a perimeter oriented team, my thought is that they'd want somebody who's gonna be effective inside, especially defensively.

My guess is that they'd prefer to get Robin Lopez because he's got the size/hustle/defense that they need and he'll be able to contribute right away. Ajinca is probably their Plan B. He won't have as immediate an impact but his upside is huge. If I'm Colangelo, I take a chance on him instead of going for a guy with limited potential like Hibbert/Thompson/Hardin or a duplicate of what I already have like Koufos.