GM a Team Part 3 (Transactions) unsticky plz

[deviljets7]

The BYC situation doesn't apply, the PPP situation does. And so it's pretty much impossible to trade Iguodala for this next season as PPP is very hard to make a trade around.

I thought the PPP situation only applies to players that sign a year before they are set to hit restricted free agency.

[MJallday59]

The BYC situation doesn't apply, the PPP situation does. And so it's pretty much impossible to trade Iguodala for this next season as PPP is very hard to make a trade around.

Gotcha! I'll edit it and repost

[Teddy KGB]

Are you sure you got me? Because what I'm saying is that this trade is essentially impossible for you to make work cap wise. lol

[MJallday59]

Are you sure you got me? Because what I'm saying is that this trade is essentially impossible for you to make work cap wise. lol

lol I heard ya loud and clear. I love a challenge....

[Teddy KGB]

Haha well if you can get that to work then hats off to you lol

[#1knickfan]

The trade took place after we signed him. The only thing I believe we are waiting for is approval once the BYC situation is taken care of.

Which shouldn't be a problem.

But you can't deal him. You can't resign him to a contract and deal him to a team that never made an offer. Boston could only aquire AI in a sign and trade but they have to make an offer to the guy before working out a Sign and trade.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

Guys, while it pains me to side with the Spurs becuase I was trying to get another deal done with them, this league has no waiting period after signing a FA to trade him. So the Spurs signed him, and then they traded him in a normal trade. I also think he's BYC, not PPP.

[Teddy KGB]

No, it's PPP.

[#1knickfan]

This league does not have a rule against it because this is the first time this issue came up.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

No, it's PPP.

PPP is only when a guy signs an extension while his other contract is still in effect. Iggy was a FA, so he never signed an extension. This is a new contract that makes him now BYC.

[skorff26]

It's BYC not PPP, PPP occurs when a player signs a big contract before his contract expires... so Larry Coon's example of PPP

Here is an example of a poison pill calculation: Carmelo Anthony earns $4,694,041 in 2006-07, the final year of his rookie scale contract. Prior to October 31, 2006 he signed a five year extension (bringing the total seasons to six) for the maximum salary, with the maximum 10.5% raises. Anthony's actual salary will not be determined until July 2007, when the maximum salary amounts for 2007-08 are set. During the 2006-07 season the 2006-07 maximum is assumed for the 2007-08 season ($13,762,775), and the salary in subsequent seasons is based on this amount ($15,070,550, $16,378,325 and $17,686,100, respectively). If Anthony is traded during the 2006-07 season, then his outgoing salary from the Nuggets' perspective is his actual salary of $4,694,041. His incoming salary from the other team's perspective would be $13,518,358 -- the average of his 2006-07 salary and the assumed salaries in the extension.

So PPP deals with extensions before a players contract runs out; when he has one year left on his contract

Here's Larry Coon's example of BYC

Here is an example of a BYC calculation: A player earned $2 million in 2004-05, after which he became a free agent. He then signs a new contract (re-signing with his previous team, which is over the salary cap) starting at $9 million. This player qualifies for BYC, so his trade value is the greater of his previous salary ($2 million) or 50% of his new salary ($4.5 million), or $4.5 million. So this player, who actually earns $9 million, is worth $4.5 million for trading purposes.

So BYC deals with players whose contracts are over and are being resigned

and the case in point that is being discussed is dealing with a player whose contract is over and being signed to another deal, so that means it's BYC

-also if a player is PPP in 2007, then he would become a BYC player in 2008 by default.

[roseorbust]

The 76ers and Timberwolves have agreed on a sign and trade for Andris Biedrins.

The 76ers will send Kendrick Perkins 4,078.880 and their 2009 First Round Selection for

Andris Biedrins 14,750,000.

The 76ers do not have to match the salaries because the timberwolves recieve a trade exemption equal to the difference of the two players salaries.

[Raptors90102]

The 76ers and Timberwolves have agreed on a sign and trade for Andris Biedrins.

The 76ers will send Kendrick Perkins 4,078.880 and their 2009 First Round Selection for

Andris Biedrins 14,750,000.

The 76ers do not have to match the salaries because the timberwolves recieve a trade exemption equal to the difference of the two players salaries.

As I have already pointed out in the FA thread, Biedrins cannot make more than the Max salary for his first post-rookie-scale contract. The MOST he can make is the Max money and 14.75 is way above that. The max contract starts at 13.05 mill I believe. So the 76ers offer is invalid to begin with.

[roseorbust]

I believe you wrong although I'm not completely sure. However, when a player has been in the league for less then 6 years, the maximmum he can start is 25 percent of the salary cap.

[clydestudent1276]

Chicago + Indiana have come to a trade agreement:

Chicago Trades:
Marcus Williams $1,262,520
Andres Nocioni $8,000,000
2010 Chicago 2nd Round Pick

Total $9,262,520 (Max total value coming back: 9,262,520 * 125% + 100,000 = $11,678,150)

Indiana Trades
Al Harrington $9,226,250
Rodney Carney $1,655,760
Chicago also recieves it 2009 1st round pick back. Indiana will now get the Chicago 2010 1st round pick.

Total $10,882,010

Chicago Accepts.

[Jugs]

i accept for salary cap reasons for this offseason.

[zong]

Chicago-Indiana Trade Approved, update rosters ASAP

[deciman]

I mistakenly confirmed the deal above. The guy misinformed me about the protection of the knicks pick. I was so excited about the trade below, I briefly glanced over accidentally confirming. I'm willing to pay a 2nd rounder for my carelessness, even though I was the one scammed, I believe I owe the guy above for pulling a fast one.

The sixers have also traded

Andre Miller For Ira Newbie Eric Snow and 2 firsts.

Thats a good trade for (me) because I think that Miller is 20% better than Snow.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

The Heat and Pacers have come to an agreement on a deal:

(Using 2008-2009 salaries)

MIA outgoing/IND incoming:

Delonte West $4,000,000
Darko Milicic $7,020,000

Total: $11,020,000

IND outgoing/MIA incoming:

Andres Nocioni: $8,000,000
Mardy Collins: $1,034,760
MIL’s 2009 2nd round pick

Total: $9,034,760

9,034,760 X 1.25 + 100,000 = 11,393,450
11,393,450>11,020,000

Heat accept, and are excited to bring in some hustle and shooting with Nocioni and a young PG in Collins.

[MJallday59]

The San Antonio Spurs and Boston Celtics have agreed on a trade

The Celtics will send

Andre Miller - $10,233,332
Brad Miller - $11,375,000


The Spurs will Send

Andrei Kirilenko - $15,106,000
Speedy Claxton - 5,757,818
JR Giddens - 711,517 - (Signed for 3 yrs)
Robin Lopez - 1,173,480