San Jose Sharks

Post #21 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 6:46 pm

Night Angel - The Wings have Hossa who looks like he wants to be a Wing and is playing like we knew he would. Not taking anything away from the Sharkies but I don't think 1 year with Babcock is enough to say Todd McLellan knows the in's and outs of Detroit if thats so the Leafs should beat the Sharkies every single time.

It will be a fantastic series but Detroit looks like they want it this year and I feel are coasting through the season

GswStorm3 · Post #22 » by **GswStorm3** » Thu Dec 4, 2008 10:03 pm

XBL, McLellan has worked under Babcock for three years with the Red Wings.

Post #23 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Fri Dec 5, 2008 7:25 pm

Night Angel 1 wrote:XBL, McLellan has worked under Babcock for three years with the Red Wings.

Thanks for pointing that out had a brain lapse for a second. Well even so I think Babcock will be making new plays and changing the way we play the Sharks. So by your logic Eric Mangini and the Jets should beat Bill Belichick and his Patroits every game then or Paul Maurice and his Carloina Huricanes should beat Ron Wilson and the Leafs then?

I think The Sharks are a damn good team but they are not playoff tested like The Wings. They have never been past the Confrence semi's in 4 years (excluding the lockout year)

GswStorm3 · Post #24 » by **GswStorm3** » Fri Dec 5, 2008 8:57 pm

Well I saw McLellan and the Sharks flat out dominate the Red Wings this season like never before. Saying McLellan didn't play a huge role in that would be very naive on my part.

The Lockout year the Sharks actually did make it past the Conference Semi's playing the Flames in the WCF.

Griff83 · Post #25 » by **Griff83** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 3:08 pm

xbl_sucks wrote:Night Angel - The Wings have Hossa who looks like he wants to be a Wing and is playing like we knew he would. Not taking anything away from the Sharkies but I don't think 1 year with Babcock is enough to say Todd McLellan knows the in's and outs of Detroit if thats so the Leafs should beat the Sharkies every single time.

It will be a fantastic series but Detroit looks like they want it this year and I feel are coasting through the season

What?

The fact that they are coasting thru the regular season makes you think they "want it this year"? That really makes no sense. The Wings have been less then impressive so far this season and I dont see how you could in anyway take that they really want to win it again by there performances so far. They have basically lost too all the elite teams the have played this season-

loss to the Sharks 4-2
loss to the Penguins 7-6
loss to the Bruins 4-1
loss to the Habs 3-1

Post #26 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 6:56 pm

Well Detroit has looked good but we have looked terrible at times. Detroit I don't think is trying our hardest. If we wanted to win and dominate the standings we should be putting a line out of Dats, Hossa and Zetterberg. We have tons of depth right now we are using one of them on the 2nd line for what reason I don't know.

San Jose has looked hungry and pissed off (in a good way) they want to prove that they can be a force in the NHL and win in the post season. Their secondary/roleplayers have steped up big for them and are a major reason why they are atop the leaderboards.

It should be a great season to see who does what and how San Jose does. Maybe they have a great 1st half then a terrible second half of the season who knows.

bill curley II · Post #27 » by **bill curley II** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:54 pm

The whole playoff tested thing is overrated. Pittsburgh had very little playoff experience last year and made the finals. For SJ, its the same story basically in the playoffs, if their defense can hold up against physical teams. Dallas just bludgeoned us last year, so hopefully adding Boyle and Blake can help against that. Its great that Marleau and Setoguchi have stepped it up this year, but to me, the biggest difference is simply being more aggressive on our attacks and taking advantage of our speed finally. As much as I'd like the Sharks to win it this year, I'm also afraid that this is basically the same team as last year who still has the same hole that can be exposed in the postseason.

Post #28 » by **timd1218** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:08 pm

bill curley II wrote:The whole playoff tested thing is overrated. Pittsburgh had very little playoff experience last year and made the finals. For SJ, its the same story basically in the playoffs, if their defense can hold up against physical teams. Dallas just bludgeoned us last year, so hopefully adding Boyle and Blake can help against that. Its great that Marleau and Setoguchi have stepped it up this year, but to me, the biggest difference is simply being more aggressive on our attacks and taking advantage of our speed finally. As much as I'd like the Sharks to win it this year, I'm also afraid that this is basically the same team as last year who still has the same hole that can be exposed in the postseason.

The thing that hurts the Sharks is Joe Thornton deciding to take the playoffs off. If he would actually wake up, and play like he is being paid, they would do something.

Their team is playoff tested.

GswStorm3 · Post #29 » by **GswStorm3** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:47 pm

Best 30 game start in NHL history.

Post #30 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:17 pm

Night Angel 1 wrote:Best 30 game start in NHL history.

Talk to me when your team wins 62-13-7 and has 113 points. The Sharks deserve a ton of respect but I don't see that team being able to hoist the cup in 2009. I see a Eastern team doing so or if a Western team my Wings

Post #31 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:30 pm

You might have been asked this plenty of times, so sorry, but what does XBL stand for?

GswStorm3 · Post #32 » by **GswStorm3** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:35 pm

Someone just sounds bitter that the Sharks are stealing the spotlight from the Wings.

Speaking of the Wings they better get that defense and goaltending together before they do anything.

WEFFPIM · Post #33 » by **WEFFPIM** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:32 pm

I don't see how any logical fan can say that right now the Sharks aren't the Cup favorite. They're just dominant, not to mention a helluva lot of fun to watch.

WEFFPIM · Post #34 » by **WEFFPIM** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:33 pm

xbl_sucks wrote:
Night Angel 1 wrote:Best 30 game start in NHL history.

Talk to me when your team wins 62-13-7 and has 113 points. The Sharks deserve a ton of respect but I don't see that team being able to hoist the cup in 2009. I see a Eastern team doing so or if a Western team my Wings

Talk to me when the Wings find a goalie who isn't bordering on putrid.

Post #35 » by **timd1218** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:00 am

WEFFPIM wrote:
xbl_sucks wrote:
Night Angel 1 wrote:Best 30 game start in NHL history.

Talk to me when your team wins 62-13-7 and has 113 points. The Sharks deserve a ton of respect but I don't see that team being able to hoist the cup in 2009. I see a Eastern team doing so or if a Western team my Wings

Talk to me when the Wings find a goalie who isn't bordering on putrid.

Osgood has been playing like crap.

The sad thing though, is he could play like this all season, and the Wings will still make the playoffs and then he will turn up his game in the playoffs.

Griff83 · Post #36 » by **Griff83** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:31 am

xbl_sucks wrote:
Night Angel 1 wrote:Best 30 game start in NHL history.

Talk to me when your team wins 62-13-7 and has 113 points. The Sharks deserve a ton of respect but I don't see that team being able to hoist the cup in 2009. I see a Eastern team doing so or if a Western team my Wings

Im not one bit suprised.

There isnt one team in the East who would beat San Jose in a 7 game series. Im also not suprised you almost never give SJ full credit seeing your a big Wings fan and they are your biggest threat. SJ is a totally different team this season mostly due to a new coach who has brought more offensive freedom and has Marleau playing like a MVP candidate.

Griff83 · Post #37 » by **Griff83** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:34 am

WEFFPIM wrote:I don't see how any logical fan can say that right now the Sharks aren't the Cup favorite. They're just dominant, not to mention a helluva lot of fun to watch.

Because Wings fans for some reason think they are unbeatable even tho last year was the first time in a few years they won anything.

Post #38 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:44 pm

Griff83 wrote:
WEFFPIM wrote:I don't see how any logical fan can say that right now the Sharks aren't the Cup favorite. They're just dominant, not to mention a helluva lot of fun to watch.

Because Wings fans for some reason think they are unbeatable even tho last year was the first time in a few years they won anything.

Dude look at any sports franchise for the last 10-15 years and compare records the Wings have the best winning % in that stretch only other team that would come close to having our success is the Patroits.

The Wings have 4 cups since 1997 thats pretty damn good and esp in the new NHL where people wrote us off saying we can't "buy wins/cups" anymore and we are "old"

The Sharkies deserve all the credit in the world they are amazing this season but they might fall a bit once people adjust to their game. It's been what 35 games and they are automatic cup champs? Also Patrick Marleau for MVP? If anything it's Malkin or Corsby for MVP look at the numbers. Malkin has more points and is leading the league in assists so it's not all Crosby feeding him the puck.

Griff83 · Post #39 » by **Griff83** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:35 pm

xbl_sucks wrote:
Griff83 wrote:
WEFFPIM wrote:I don't see how any logical fan can say that right now the Sharks aren't the Cup favorite. They're just dominant, not to mention a helluva lot of fun to watch.

Because Wings fans for some reason think they are unbeatable even tho last year was the first time in a few years they won anything.

Dude look at any sports franchise for the last 10-15 years and compare records the Wings have the best winning % in that stretch only other team that would come close to having our success is the Patroits.

The Wings have 4 cups since 1997 thats pretty damn good and esp in the new NHL where people wrote us off saying we can't "buy wins/cups" anymore and we are "old"

The Sharkies deserve all the credit in the world they are amazing this season but they might fall a bit once people adjust to their game. It's been what 35 games and they are automatic cup champs? Also Patrick Marleau for MVP? If anything it's Malkin or Corsby for MVP look at the numbers. Malkin has more points and is leading the league in assists so it's not all Crosby feeding him the puck.

I dont care what your franchise has done in the past 15 years, you fans act like your some current dynasty that has had a 3peat or something. Yes you won last year, but lost the season before in the conference finals and before that had a string of first round exits. The Wings are a great franchise but its the fact that most of there fans act like they are currently unbeatable that makes fans of other teams sick. Right now San Jose is a better team and its just stupid to say thing's like " I think a eastern team will win". Why would you think a eastern team will win? are you insinuating that the top teams in the East are better then the ones in the West?

What do you mean adjust to there game? I dont expect them to go 65-17 or some crazy record like that but your just grasping at staws if you think trying to figure them out is all the sudden going to change them from being a powerhouse into just a average to good team. Its not even about record but its more to do with how they are winning games and how dominant they are at home. I dont know how anyone could think that if Det and SJ played a series starting today that Detroit would win. Detroit has lost to basically all the good teams they have played this season and they have MAJOR goaltending issues.

I said Marleau is a MVP "candidate" you know, a candidate meaning one of many? He's easily been one of the 5-6 best skaters this season and his numbers are also good. True impact isnt solely based on who has the most points. Marleau is a much better defensive player and penalty killer then anyone of Malkin, Crosby or Ovechkin.

Keep hating on SJ all youd like but they look like a well oiled machine right now and if they stay away from injuries they should be the favorites in the west once the playoffs start. Detroit plays San Jose on Thursday night and I fully expect Detroit to win this game seeing SJ will be playing the 2nd game of a back to back and its 3rd game in 4 nights so I wouldnt get too excited if your team wins this game.

GswStorm3 · Post #40 » by **GswStorm3** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:57 pm

"but they might fall a bit once people adjust to their game."

Someone seems to be forgetting the Sharks are playing a similar game to what won the Wings the Presidents trophy and the Stanley Cup last year. A dominant puck possession team that gets a ton of shots on net. That also just so happens to have a solid defense with two good goaltenders.