College players thread/ Draft Related thread

[john2jer]

I don't mind DeRozan, but from what I've seen of Summers and what I've read, he actually seems very similar to Marvin Williams, so if we could get that type of player without spending the money, that would be awesome.

[Krapinsky]

If there's any indication Derozan is going to fall that far then he'll just stay in school. Summers will probbably be gone by the Miami pick as well. Jordan will not last til the Boston pick, and it's not guaranteed that Turner comes out.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I'd assume we'll be picking top 5 now that Al is out.

Lawson may very well be a sure thing 15/7 good defense player, but the Wolves need more than that and imo should go for a higher ceiling player.

[hotshotschamp]

lawson is the type of player you take mid first to late first....u don take him top 5 or whatever we will get.

Personally I'd take eric maynor all day over lawson

[Krapinsky]

I'd assume we'll be picking top 5 now that Al is out.

Lawson may very well be a sure thing 15/7 good defense player, but the Wolves need more than that and imo should go for a higher ceiling player.

I just don''t think this is a very deep draft. Right now I have Lawson as the 7th best player, but I'm willing to take Evans of Curry in that spot as well. I think all those guys are on the same tier after the 6th pick. So if we're taking top 5, then yes I agree that would be too early. But to your latter point, at the same time can we afford to swing and miss this time? Sometime's the sure thing with less upside ends up being the best player in the draft (i.e. Brandon Roy)

[hotshotschamp]

i got lawson as about the 7th best pg in this draft.

I like

Rubio- if he enters
teague
Jennings
curry
evans
maynor- a pure beast not many have seen, watch him live and you'll see why.
collison/lawson as a tie


I'd rather have those 6 over Lawson, whom ive seen a lot of.

Get Thabeet, Maynor and terrence williams and let the good times roll

[Krapinsky]

i got lawson as about the 7th best pg in this draft.

I like

Rubio- if he enters
teague
Jennings
curry
evans
maynor- a pure beast not many have seen, watch him live and you'll see why.
collison/lawson as a tie


I'd rather have those 6 over Lawson, whom ive seen a lot of.

Rubio-- agreed
Teague -- Not a PG/duplicative of Foye/Can't play D
Jennings -- 20 lbs less than Lawson/Can't play D/Will take a while to develop
Curry -- Not sure if he can handle the Point/Will struggle against stronger defenders/D will be limited
Evans -- Is he a point? Has shown that he must have the ball in his hands to excel/Not the best player for a low post oriented offense, but I am open to him
Maynor-- I like him, just doesn't have the talent that Lawson has.
Collison - 30 lbs less than Lawson, not 1/2 the leader Lawson is, won't be able to drive at the next level like Lawson will

Get Thabeet, Maynor and terrence williams and let the good times roll

[hotshotschamp]

I guess we shall find out come draft time....id be willing to bet most of the names i listed go before Lawson in the nba draft in 2009, assumin they all enter.

I still remember watching Teague absolutely whoring Ty Lawson all game long a month or two back.

[Krapinsky]

You make a good point regarding the Wake/NC match up. I'm holding judgment until they play again, but if it turns out Teague's a 2 and not a 1 at the next level, then him torching 1's is kind of irrelevent.

[hotshotschamp]

I don't see teague being #2....

He may not be your classic pure PG in the sense that he gets 9-10 assists or whatever, but i see him being a very capable pg, whom can score a lot and average 5-6 assists.

Teague can pass the ball, he may not be elite in that area, but he's more than just a shot jacker. but he's a young guy also who has a lot to work on like all these kids do, but i see him having more of a impact at the pg rather than 2 guard spot. He's probalby 6"1 he'd get torched guarding 2's.

I may be nuts, but I truly think eric maynor is going to shock a lot of people in this draft, and 5 years from now, many will say wow we didn't give this kid a big enough look. Thats just my opinion anyways, I could be dead wrong.

[Krapinsky]

How do you think Teaague compares to Bayless coming out last year?

[dunkonu21]

I'm going to assume that we don't have a good chance at Harden. I mean he's pretty much the ideal guys for me in this draft. Even though I honestly think he could bust. I do think Harden would be too good for this team to pass up and we'd just have to hope he didn't bust. He's just too big at the SG spot and he'd be a tough guy to match-up with. I just don't know how skilled he really is and if he is someone who can grow a lot more or if he's gonna just stay at where he is now. It's tough, he could be a Brandon Roy or he could be an Adam Morrison. But like I said it's a no brainer if you can get him.

Overall I think Harden is a pipe dream for the Pups tho.

That being said I think Aminu or Clark are the guys we need to decide between in this draft. We need to be more athletic and it's very obvious. These two have that extreme athleticism and I would venture to guess they will both be better than Marvin Williams.

Going along with the 5/20/30 thing. I think Omri Casspi is an intriguing player. Ive said time and time again I like both Sam Young and Terrance Williams. We better at least get one of those two guys or I won't be happy. They are both huge bargains at where they are on the mock drafts I've seen. Have you guys seen Sam Young's pump fakes on the perimeter!? They are so sick, I think that it's gonna be impossible for people not to fall for that pump fake. It's one of those tricks that I think will work for him his whole career, I've never seen a guy do that so effectively on the perimeter. Sam Young>Terrence Williams.

I think going after a PG in the 2nd round would also be smarter than using a 1st on one. Telfair is good enough for the next two years, we don't need to be wasting picks on a third string PG. Foye is going to be starting PG IMO. The reason I think that is that this year is a much better year for SGs than for PGs. Would anyone disagree with that? It's arguable that Foye could be the future PG or SG for this team and he'd be successful at either spot. Foye is too talented to not build the team around him, and I think most people agree. I just would rather him not be an undersized two for the rest of his career, because we already have an undersized 4 AND 5.

[revprodeji]

So many options....I just hope we have a vision.

[horaceworthy]

The thing about Curry is that he's a tweener that's going to have problems playing defense in the NBA, which already describes everyone on the Wolves roster.

I don't see Curry as a tweener, which likely explains why I like him so much. I get why other people see him as a tweener, and I see where there coming from, I just think that at the end of the day, Curry is more of a point guard than he gets credit for. He's got a lot of the qualities that I look for in a point guard, such as a high skill level and BBIQ, a strong handle, nice mid-range game, good court vision, and good size for that position.

I get why people see him as a tweener, but I think that's more a product of the situation he's in right now and his undeniable talent for putting points on the board. It is a big and legitimate question, because if he's a tweener then he's Chris Jackson, but if he's a PG, he brings a Nash/Bibby element to the table with his perimeter shooting.

[horaceworthy]

So many options....I just hope we have a vision.

I agree. There still aren't a lot of guys standing out to me in the 5-10 range, but after putting in a weekend of watching Monroe/Summers/Harden/Holiday/Evans/DeRozan/Turner, etc., we've got a nice chance at adding a couple legit pieces in this draft.

The big question for me is how to rank Evans/Holiday/Jennings (who looked like Kevin Johnson part deux in the McDonald's All-American game), because they're all in circumstances that make it tougher to evaluate them than it should be.

[the_bruce]

The wolves are in a great position, but I think they may need a little help to be honest. Hopefully the team ends up with a top 4 pick. Maybe rubio comes out too. I dunno I'm happy with any of these prospects if any fall to #5 or we pick higher:
rubio - duh

griffin - I'm actually less impressed with this guy than most people, he's a beast of an athlete and if was a big sf with face up skills he'd be my wet dream, but I don't see how he fits well with our current parts. Trade bait.

thabeet - you can't teach size, plus for his immense size its shocking he's as athletic as he is.

harden - I'm not as enamored with him as others are, certainly worth the pick though

aminu - athlete on the wingggggggggg

I agree with horaceworthy on the Curry debate. I'd also add that a guy like curry has a great chance of being the best of his draft class. In 5 years if we look back at the draft and see Curry drafted @10+ and getting selected to allstar games left and right nobody would be to surprised. But if earl Clark did it people would be saying, did not see that comin...

[revprodeji]

Keep your eyes out for Donatas Motiejunas, PF/C 7ft 18yr old. Killing people in europe right now. Problem is he looks like Skita. But before the draft Skita had the tools to make a great nba player. Could this kid be similar? Upside is huge, fantastic size, lefty, smooth, athletic, great slasher, finisher with both hands, has ballhandling skills already, good range, quick release, fine rebounder, good post moves, though a perimenter-oriented pf, excellent footwork, good body-use, fine mobility, good passing game.

[revprodeji]

also, it is not just me. He is considered 2nd in international prospects behind my man-crush Rubio and he is considered the 17th best prospect available right now according to the DX mock draft.
Ahead of Derozan, Buddinger, singler and just right before E.Turner. I think we need to talk about this kid. Not saying he is an all-star, but could be a legit NBA player.

[Krapinsky]

UCONN/PITT on ESPN right now. Lots of pro potential -- Thabeet/Blair/Young/Price/Adrien. I'm interested in Thabs and Young.

[dunkonu21]

Young is lookin good