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Post#461 » by SportsWorld » Tue May 12, 2009 3:52 am

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Trip to Game 7 of Round 1 vs. Trip to the Western Conference Finals...

Come on, SW...

This definitely feels better :D
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#462 » by sh00n » Tue May 12, 2009 6:49 am

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WEFFPIM wrote:A sucker punch is what Bertuzzi did to Steve Moore. Ward knew there was going to be a fight and he didn't do anything to protect himself.

Fine, yes. Suspension, God no.


How is it God, no? Fighting within the last 5 minutes of a game usually is a suspension. And Ward could be out. You think that's fair? Wards orbital bone gets broken, and walker gets off with a slap on the wrist?

This was a sucker punch too. He was involved in a minor scrub with cullen. Walker turned him, and punched him in the face. Ward is a veteran, he knows the rules, fighting within the last 5 minutes usually leads to a suspension for the next game.

A sucker punch is when you don't see it coming, or when it's from behind. If Ward honestly didn't think a punch was coming, I have no idea what's wrong with him. Walker only grabbed him by the collar and threw his glove off. If Ward puts his hands up to defend himself, Walker gets the game misconduct and is probably suspended. Instead he eats the knuckles full force and now he's got a busted face.
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#463 » by Celtics_Champs » Tue May 12, 2009 9:39 am

Of course he didn't see it coming. Who in their right mind doesn't protect themselves from a punch. He would have at least turtled. He didn't even make an attempt to throw is gloves off.

Everyone in the media is calling it a sucker punch. God damn guys, you know the rules of hockey. Probably better then me, You can't force a fight on someone when they're not willing or not ready!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLnEDFaD ... re=related

Look, at 58 mark. Slow motion, walker comes in with the elbow to the face, has his gloves off within a second and knocks Aaron Ward out before Ward even knew what was happening.
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Post#464 » by sh00n » Tue May 12, 2009 3:30 pm

Meh, I don't see that as a sucker punch. I don't get how you can't see a punch coming when he's pulling you by the jersey and he whips his hand back to get the glove off. Makes no sense to me.
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Post#465 » by burn1down » Tue May 12, 2009 4:17 pm

Outside of games that i have personal investment in (Flames, team Canada) that Chicago Vancouver game was the best hockey game i have ever seen. I could not imagine what it would have been like to be in that building. Just out of control.

That Chicago team is good. . . a lot better than i gave them credit for heading into the playoffs. They are tougher than i thought, and even though young, have played with such poise and confidence. . you just cant seem to shake that team. Great hockey to watch
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Post#466 » by Celtics_Champs » Tue May 12, 2009 7:01 pm

sh00n wrote:Meh, I don't see that as a sucker punch. I don't get how you can't see a punch coming when he's pulling you by the jersey and he whips his hand back to get the glove off. Makes no sense to me.


It happened within 3 seconds, he elbows him to the face. He drops his glvoes, aaron ward looks confused, boom, knock out punch.

Laraque shadowed lucic this year, but he never took a swing at him. He's not cheap. If a fighter doesn't drop his gloves then you can't punch him. That is the unwritten rule of hockey fighting.

If the NHL didn't think it was cheap, then why didn't they fine Ward? If they thought it was a clear one on one fight, then Ward would have been fined as well.
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#467 » by timd1218 » Tue May 12, 2009 9:04 pm

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He's leading with his shoulder and has a wide stance because he had a lot of speed going in. He wasn't trying to injure Gonchar and that's why it shouldn't (and won't) be a suspension. It was unfortunate but Ovechkin missed the check when Gonchar moved and their knees collided.


It doesn't matter if he was leading with shoulder or not. When you check someone, you don't stick out your right leg like Ovechkin is going in the picture. Gonchar was going to get by Ovechkin so Ovechkin stuck out his leg. Watch the reply. Ovechkin widens his stance at the last second. Plus, here is a good quote from Colin Campbell regarding whether or not it is intent to injure:

This is when Orpik hit Cole into the boards and broke his neck.

'"While it is apparent that there was no deliberate intent to injure on this play, Mr. Orpik's careless hit on his opponent resulted in a serious injury. Even if a player leaves himself vulnerable, the checking player does bear some responsibility in avoiding a hit on a defenseless opponent."

Matt Cooke did the same thing to Zach Bogosian during the season and got a 1 game suspension. If Cooke gets one, Ovechkin should get one. If this was Ovechkin getting hurt, the refs would have called it a 5 min major and the player would have gotten suspended. The NHL is a joke. They turn their shoulders when a star player hurts someone, but when it's not a star player, they suspend the player.


LOL at you crying about this after Kunitz got away with a blatant cross check to Varlamov's neck. Are we now assessing suspensions by if a player gets injured or not? Did Varlamov have to get his head seperated for Kunitz to be suspended? Is Kunitz such a super star that the league could not suspend him?

Give me a **** break :lol:



Wow. I love how you come out after the Capitals win. You're a typical Capital fan. When the team loses, you are no where to be found. When the team wins, you are the greatest fan ever. Go jump off the bandwagon. Obviously you don't watch the NHL enough to realize that suspensions are based on whether someone is injured or not. How many games has Varlamov missed? 0. How many games has the Pens best defenseman missed

Also, I'm sure Bettman has told the refs to call everything on Washington. I'm sure he called down to the refs with 3 mins left in the game and told them to call a penalty on Washington. Yeah, it was a weak call but you can't slash someones stick out of their hand when they are going after the puck. IT IS A PENALTY.

And obviously you don't watch the NHL enough to realize that suspensions are based on whether someone is injured or not. Jump of the Capitals bandwagon.
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#468 » by timd1218 » Tue May 12, 2009 9:05 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:Bettman is beyond ecstatic Caps-Pens is going 7



No. He isn't. According to Gilbert, the Pens always get the officials in their favor so Bettman wanted to Pens to win in 3. It doesn't matter that the Pens completely outplay their opponents for the most part, Bettman just wants Crosby to win the cup like he did last year.
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#469 » by sh00n » Tue May 12, 2009 9:47 pm

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sh00n wrote:Meh, I don't see that as a sucker punch. I don't get how you can't see a punch coming when he's pulling you by the jersey and he whips his hand back to get the glove off. Makes no sense to me.


It happened within 3 seconds, he elbows him to the face. He drops his glvoes, aaron ward looks confused, boom, knock out punch.

Laraque shadowed lucic this year, but he never took a swing at him. He's not cheap. If a fighter doesn't drop his gloves then you can't punch him. That is the unwritten rule of hockey fighting.

If the NHL didn't think it was cheap, then why didn't they fine Ward? If they thought it was a clear one on one fight, then Ward would have been fined as well.

Because Ward didn't throw a punch, obviously he wasn't fighting. We're not going to see eye to eye on this so there's no point. All I'm saying is Ward is stupid for not defending himself. If he honestly couldn't get his hands up in time to block a punch after he got shoved, elbowed, had his jersey grabbed, and then a glove comes flying off then he has some of the worst reflexes of all-time. It wasn't a cheap shot and I don't think a fine should've even been given. If Lucic pushes Whitney, grabs him and throws a punch (wouldn't surprise me) and does the same amount of damage to Whitney's face, would you be calling for Lucic to be suspended too?
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#470 » by timd1218 » Tue May 12, 2009 11:42 pm

Carolina better make a comeback and win this game or else Boston is gonna take the series.
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#471 » by Celtics_Champs » Wed May 13, 2009 1:05 am

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sh00n wrote:Meh, I don't see that as a sucker punch. I don't get how you can't see a punch coming when he's pulling you by the jersey and he whips his hand back to get the glove off. Makes no sense to me.


It happened within 3 seconds, he elbows him to the face. He drops his glvoes, aaron ward looks confused, boom, knock out punch.

Laraque shadowed lucic this year, but he never took a swing at him. He's not cheap. If a fighter doesn't drop his gloves then you can't punch him. That is the unwritten rule of hockey fighting.

If the NHL didn't think it was cheap, then why didn't they fine Ward? If they thought it was a clear one on one fight, then Ward would have been fined as well.

Because Ward didn't throw a punch, obviously he wasn't fighting. We're not going to see eye to eye on this so there's no point. All I'm saying is Ward is stupid for not defending himself. If he honestly couldn't get his hands up in time to block a punch after he got shoved, elbowed, had his jersey grabbed, and then a glove comes flying off then he has some of the worst reflexes of all-time. It wasn't a cheap shot and I don't think a fine should've even been given. If Lucic pushes Whitney, grabs him and throws a punch (wouldn't surprise me) and does the same amount of damage to Whitney's face, would you be calling for Lucic to be suspended too?


First, He was suspended. Like I said, the rules state a player who fights within the last five mintues call for a suspension, but the league overturned.

And hell yes Lucic should be suspended. Rules are Rules. Look at what rondo did to hinrich. then go back and look at my posts, I was upset, but thought he should be suspended, and he would be. I was shocked when he wasn't.

Anyway, bruins take early lead. 4-1, I guess you can say the walker non-suspension really pushed them to play well early on.
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Post#472 » by Celtics_Champs » Wed May 13, 2009 1:31 am

Great win. 4-2. B's force a game 7.

Savard did get injured though, knee. Pretty nervous about that.
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Post#473 » by timd1218 » Wed May 13, 2009 1:46 am

It's fun watching playoff hockey and not having to root for a team. It's so much less tense and stressful.

I think Boston will win game 7. It seems as if Thomas has found his game again. Plus the game will be in Boston.

Not just hoping Anaheim will win tonight and the series. I hate HOSSA!!!! (Still)
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Post#474 » by sh00n » Wed May 13, 2009 2:53 am

timd1218 wrote:It's fun watching playoff hockey and not having to root for a team. It's so much less tense and stressful.

I think Boston will win game 7. It seems as if Thomas has found his game again. Plus the game will be in Boston.

Not just hoping Anaheim will win tonight and the series. I hate HOSSA!!!! (Still)

I'm curious to see if he's going to actually come to play or if he's going to pull another colossal choke job like last year in Game 7.
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#475 » by Wizards2Lottery » Wed May 13, 2009 3:34 am

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Wow. I love how you come out after the Capitals win. You're a typical Capital fan. When the team loses, you are no where to be found. When the team wins, you are the greatest fan ever. Go jump off the bandwagon. Obviously you don't watch the NHL enough to realize that suspensions are based on whether someone is injured or not. How many games has Varlamov missed? 0. How many games has the Pens best defenseman missed

Also, I'm sure Bettman has told the refs to call everything on Washington. I'm sure he called down to the refs with 3 mins left in the game and told them to call a penalty on Washington. Yeah, it was a weak call but you can't slash someones stick out of their hand when they are going after the puck. IT IS A PENALTY.

And obviously you don't watch the NHL enough to realize that suspensions are based on whether someone is injured or not. Jump of the Capitals bandwagon.


Yeah that probably explains why I was posting here in the middle of the game, while the Capitals were LOSING :lol: . Yeah IT IS A PENALTY. Like the two blatant trips they missed on Semin right? I'M SURE THEY WERE A PENALTY TOO! or how about Hal Gill cross checking Ovechkin two feet from the ref? THAT'S A PENALTY TOO. It's an unsaid rule of all sports that you don't call weak ticky tacky fouls on an even playing field in the last two minutes of a game.

Penalties assessed on injuries? You mean like Walker getting suspended because Ward has a broken orbital bone? Oh wait... :lol: . You are an idiot if you think Ovechkin did it on purpose and should be suspended for that.

Now go cry me a river. I have nothing to prove to you regarding how bandwagon I am or not. Considering I root for the Redskins and the Wizards, I find it quite amusing that a PITTSBURGH fan is calling me out. You probably can't even pin point Pittsburgh on the map, and if you actually happen to be from that hell hole, well then I'm really sorry because I feel bad for you. Besides sports you really do have nothing else :lol:
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Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs (Schedule on 1st page): May 9 1:39am 

Post#476 » by WEFFPIM » Wed May 13, 2009 6:38 am

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:Now go cry me a river. I have nothing to prove to you regarding how bandwagon I am or not. Considering I root for the Redskins and the Wizards, I find it quite amusing that a PITTSBURGH fan is calling me out. You probably can't even pin point Pittsburgh on the map, and if you actually happen to be from that hell hole, well then I'm really sorry because I feel bad for you. Besides sports you really do have nothing else :lol:


timd went to two games this series and was at the Finals game last year when the Wings won the Cup. I bet he's had to pin point Pittsburgh on a map a few times. And yeah, Washington has more to do than Pittsburgh. All that extra activity revolves around crime and political corruption. Weeeee!

You may not be a bandwagoner, but you certainly showed your age and maturity level.

Unrelated note, I'm so glad I don't have to sit through a Game 7 like the rest of you.

And newsflash to fans of all teams in the playoffs still...you're not getting screwed over by the officiating or Gary Bettman. Watch the NBA with that garbage, don't bring it into the NHL.
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Post#477 » by trwi7 » Wed May 13, 2009 7:45 am

The Predators got screwed over by Bettman. They didn't even make the playoffs! He made Barry Trotz sit Pekka Rinne in the beginning of the season when it was clear he was 10 times better than Dan Ellis.
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Post#478 » by Wizards2Lottery » Wed May 13, 2009 8:01 am

WEFFPIM wrote:You may not be a bandwagoner, but you certainly showed your age and maturity level.


Right, because all I was doing was talking hockey while timd was taking out his frustrations of living in Pittsburgh on me by calling me a bandwagon Capital fan. Gotcha :lol:

WEFFPIM wrote: All that extra activity revolves around crime and political corruption. Weeeee!


The irony of your post. You talk about age and maturity level, and you include that in your post. :rofl2:
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Post#479 » by Celtics_Champs » Wed May 13, 2009 10:35 am

And newsflash to fans of all teams in the playoffs still...you're not getting screwed over by the officiating or Gary Bettman. Watch the NBA with that garbage, don't bring it into the NHL.


At least stern has the balls to suspend a star. Bettman can't do that because of the hole he dug himself in.
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Post#480 » by drew881 » Wed May 13, 2009 1:07 pm

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And newsflash to fans of all teams in the playoffs still...you're not getting screwed over by the officiating or Gary Bettman. Watch the NBA with that garbage, don't bring it into the NHL.


At least stern has the balls to suspend a star. Bettman can't do that because of the hole he dug himself in.


But look at game 3 Red Wings-Ducks. Just as bad of a ref screw up with the puck not iced, when Hossa put it in after the whistle. Maybe a tougher play than Nuggets-Dallas to see, but just as important.

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