Trade Thread

Blame Rasho · Post #61 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Jun 1, 2009 6:51 pm

I happen to think that Crawford sucks... and honestly he would ride the bench with his very questionable shot selection. He is one of the last players I think Pop would trade for.

Post #62 » by **Nolan** » Tue Jun 2, 2009 7:35 am

turk3d wrote:Would you guys have any interest in Jamal Crawford? He has only two years left on his contract (19.3M). Don't think guys expect to be serious players in 2010. I think he would fit in well with Parker. You could have Manu splitting time at the 2 and 3. Crawford gives you a veteran combo guard who could inject some much needed scoring punch.

I personally have absolutely no interest in him. Guard is the one position we're set at with Parker, Hill at the point and Manu and Mason at the off guard.

Donald Kaufman · Post #63 » by **Donald Kaufman** » Tue Jun 2, 2009 11:18 am

No to Crawford. None of his teams have ever made the playoffs. That's enough of a sign right there.

Our backcourt is not the problem.

Blame Rasho · Post #64 » by **Blame Rasho** » Tue Jun 2, 2009 8:34 pm

Nolan wrote:
turk3d wrote:Would you guys have any interest in Jamal Crawford? He has only two years left on his contract (19.3M). Don't think guys expect to be serious players in 2010. I think he would fit in well with Parker. You could have Manu splitting time at the 2 and 3. Crawford gives you a veteran combo guard who could inject some much needed scoring punch.

I personally have absolutely no interest in him. Guard is the one position we're set at with Parker, Hill at the point and Manu and Mason at the off guard.

We need bigs in the worst way....

SportsFan215 · Post #65 » by **SportsFan215** » Tue Jun 2, 2009 8:52 pm

Do you guys think the Spurs would do this deal:

Clippers Get: Batum/Blake/Bowen/Hill/Oberto/#24
Clippers Give: Kaman/Thornton/Collins

Pistons Get: Kaman/Thornton
Pistons Give: Prince/Amir

Blazers Get: Prince
Blazers Give: Batum/Blake/Outlaw/#24

Spurs Get: Outlaw/Collins/Amir
Spurs Give: Hill/Bowen/Oberto

The Spurs would get 3 players that are entering their prime. This allows the Spurs to make a strong championship run before Duncan and Manu get too old.

co_laper · Post #66 » by **co_laper** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 4:46 pm

Hell yeah... Amir Johnson probably won't start rite away but he'll definitely get 20 minutes a game as our backup and energy guy. Outlaw replaces bowen in the starting lineup and gives us better offense and better rebounding plus the ability to play PF in small ball. In return, we gave up Hill, who is stuck at 15 minutes a game with Parker as our starter, Bowen (who's done), and Oberto (who probably won't get anymore time next year).

Blame Rasho · Post #67 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 5:29 pm

I would do that trade not sure if other teams would want that....

SportsFan215 · Post #68 » by **SportsFan215** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 5:33 pm

Would the Spurs do Kaman/Collins for Hill/Bowen/Oberto/Rights to Splitter?

Blame Rasho · Post #69 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 6:56 pm

SportsFan215 wrote:Would the Spurs do Kaman/Collins for Hill/Bowen/Oberto/Rights to Splitter?

We have no one to run the point, and still have a dream that we will sign Splitter in 2010 with our cap space.

bishopospurs · Post #70 » by **bishopospurs** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 7:12 pm

How about T-Wolves trading Corey Brewer plus 18th overall for Michael Finley and one of our second rounders?

No to crawford, the detroit deal is okay, I am looking more for a big who can possibly start and be a member of the spurs for a while if we are going to give up Hill plus two expiring contracts.

Kaman would be cool, but a big no to Mardy Collins. I saw him in NY when he was playing for the knicks, he does nothing very well, the most average player I have ever seen play.

Blame Rasho · Post #71 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 7:18 pm

I think that Minny laughs at that offer....

Black_Jack21 · Post #72 » by **Black_Jack21** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 3:08 pm

Why on earth would Minny do that?

A big hell no to Jamal, he's a great player, but there are times when his head just switches off and he goes on auto-pilot and just takes DUMB shots.

BarbaGrizz · Post #73 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 9:45 pm

bishopospurs wrote:I don't know about the rest of the spurs fans on here but I am pretty put out with Splitter. I see all these websites and "experts" saying how he is the best center in Europe yet he is choosing money instead of coming to play with Tim Duncan on a Championship calibre team. Why not take a year of rookie pay scale? Lebron did it, Duncan did it, David Robinson was getting paid less as a rookie than probably the last pick of the first round this year. He needs to get over himself, man up, and see if he is good enough for the NBA.
We passed on Big Baby Davis and Marc Gasol in that draft, I think we passed on them both twice drafting Marcus Willaims ahead of them as well. So frustrating!!

Wow! Making charity with other´s money is easy! I wish to see if it´s you who had to give 7/8 of your salary, just to prove how good you´re...

Blame Rasho · Post #74 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 10:07 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
bishopospurs wrote:I don't know about the rest of the spurs fans on here but I am pretty put out with Splitter. I see all these websites and "experts" saying how he is the best center in Europe yet he is choosing money instead of coming to play with Tim Duncan on a Championship calibre team. Why not take a year of rookie pay scale? Lebron did it, Duncan did it, David Robinson was getting paid less as a rookie than probably the last pick of the first round this year. He needs to get over himself, man up, and see if he is good enough for the NBA.
We passed on Big Baby Davis and Marc Gasol in that draft, I think we passed on them both twice drafting Marcus Willaims ahead of them as well. So frustrating!!

Wow! Making charity with other´s money is easy! I wish to see if it´s you who had to give 7/8 of your salary, just to prove how good you´re...

I don't know that many people who would walk away from the offer he got from TAU.

Donald Kaufman · Post #75 » by **Donald Kaufman** » Thu Jun 4, 2009 10:37 pm

Not every ballplayer wants to play in the US. Some are happy staying in Europe and earning big dollars there. I know where I'd rather live...

co_laper · Post #76 » by **co_laper** » Fri Jun 5, 2009 4:42 am

Man.. I dream of making the NBA (no shot in hell). But if the NBA gives me 1 mil, while I'm making 7 mil in Indonesia to be the biggest star and celebrity in my own country, I'm sorry man.. I'm taking that 7 mil.

If the money is a little closer, like the NBA is giving 1, but he's getting 2 where he's at, then you can say that he'd rather come over to the NBA and stuff. But he'll be getting a total of what? 4 mil in 3 years or something like that? while he's getting like 20 mil in 3 years.

Money isn't everything, but when the difference is that much, it's everything.

ss1986v2 · Post #77 » by **ss1986v2** » Fri Jun 5, 2009 7:02 am

ok, this isnt a totally serious proposal, but i was bored and figured id do something i dont do very often: play around with the trade checker. does this make any sense for the teams involved, or is it too far off base?

san antonio trades: manu + bowen + oberto
san antonio receives: jefferson + pecherov + elson + mcguire/crittenton + #5

why for san antonio: theres a good bit of negative here (losing manu, no big moves come 2010), but there is also a lot of good. jefferson can replace a lot of the production of manu, plus they net a decent lotto pick (id love for harden to slip, but hill wouldnt be the worst here either). our team still looks to be able to compete in the short-term, while netting us a good piece to help out in the future as well.

washington trades: james + pecherov + mcguire/crittenton + #5
washington receives: manu

why for washington: they accomplish what they have been apparently trying to do, which is move out of the #5 spot and acquire some veteran help. and while its a bit risky, i think its decent value. i dont know how greatly the wiz value mcguire, but one of him or critt has to be included in the deal to make the money end work.

milwaukee trades: jefferson + elson (picks up his PO)
milwaukee receives: james + bowen + oberto

why for milwaukee: they move jeffersons contract (which they seem to have been trying to do), all while trimming their books of almost 6 mil in salary, helping to free up a bit more room to resign CV and sessions.

i thought about finding a 4th team to possibly take on pech or critt for nothing (got tired). someone with a large enough TPE or some cap space could absorb one of those contracts and the spurs could send some cash their way for the trouble (along with a 2nd pick maybe). that could possibly help the spurs a bit with the tax issue. still doesnt leave enough room to do anything with our MLE though.

so is this too far off base?

co_laper · Post #78 » by **co_laper** » Sat Jun 6, 2009 3:44 pm

That maybe better for our future, but it certainly does not improve our chances for the title this coming year. I, personally, want one last shot at the title with a healthy big 3 before we break them up.

As for the trade, I think Washington drool all over that trade. Those are all backups for them. They gave up very little for Manu. Haywood, Jamison, Butler, Manu, and Arenas? I don't know about you guys, Manu is perfect for Arenas with his passing and playmaking skills. I'm pretty sure we can get a whole lot more from Washington. Plus, I'm sure I want Butler and we can just forget about Milwaukee on this deal. Manu is a better partner at SG than Butler is for Washington.

bishopospurs · Post #79 » by **bishopospurs** » Sun Jun 7, 2009 3:35 pm

I would welcome that trade, a chance for a 5 overall pick and Jefferson, but I am not sure if the Bucks would go for it. I think the Wizards would though.

I also think we may be able to grab david lee from NY in a sign in trade, we have enough expiring contracts and they are looking for a second round pick. I would give up a 2nd and some vets to get David Lee. Though I am still worried about the SF spot.

bishopospurs · Post #80 » by **bishopospurs** » Sun Jun 7, 2009 3:43 pm

As for the guys talking about my comments on Splitter. If I played ball at a level where I could play in the NBA and I thought I was the best in the world I would definitely take my game to the NBA thinking I would be able to earn more money than playing in Europe. I am sure Dirk, Ginobli, or Gasol don't regret coming over here, I am sure they could net a huge contract in Europe that has a 6 million dollar difference. Actually a lot of ball players could. I guess I am just more competitive than a lot of people. I know Europe has some good basketball players by the NBA is still the big stage. Just like soccer is the opposite. Case in point, Landon Donovan.