What is JaVale McGee's ceiling?

[WizarDynasty]

Some pretty solid comparisons guys. What about Nick Young? What would you consider a good comparison for him?

Nick young's upside is Jason Richardson with a better midrange game and better ball handling and defense. Nick Young equals better version of Jason Richardson(Poor man's Kobe Bryant without the Basketball IQ) . He is a poor man's Jason Richardson at this moment in time.

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[TheSecretWeapon]

Richardson is an interesting comparison. A superficial look at his numbers suggested Trent Tucker might be a comp.

A quick search at b-r.com looking for players with similar size, usage and efficiency produces a slightly more hopeful list including: Bernard King, Ron Harper (a scorer before his knee injury), Glen Robinson, Jerry Stackhouse, Purvis Short, Allan Houston and Glen Rice. Also on that list are less hopeful guys like Ledell Eackles, Isaiah Rider, Rodney Rogers, Todd Day, Gerald Wilkins, John Long, Kendall Gill, and Don Collins (who played 2-3 season with the Bullets back in the early 80s).

I'm not anticipating a Richardson type player out of Young. Purvis Short -- a significant scorer for Golden State in the 80s -- seems a bit closer except that Short had a rebounding % nearly double Young's through the first couple years of their careers. Numbers-wise, Allan Houston seems a pretty close match.

[fishercob]

What about Nick Young? What would you consider a good comparison for him?

If Kobe sucked at basketball, he would be Nick Young.

G0A FTW

[WizarDynasty]

Richardson is an interesting comparison. A superficial look at his numbers suggested Trent Tucker might be a comp.

A quick search at b-r.com looking for players with similar size, usage and efficiency produces a slightly more hopeful list including: Bernard King, Ron Harper (a scorer before his knee injury), Glen Robinson, Jerry Stackhouse, Purvis Short, Allan Houston and Glen Rice. Also on that list are less hopeful guys like Ledell Eackles, Isaiah Rider, Rodney Rogers, Todd Day, Gerald Wilkins, John Long, Kendall Gill, and Don Collins (who played 2-3 season with the Bullets back in the early 80s).

I'm not anticipating a Richardson type player out of Young. Purvis Short -- a significant scorer for Golden State in the 80s -- seems a bit closer except that Short had a rebounding % nearly double Young's through the first couple years of their careers. Numbers-wise, Allan Houston seems a pretty close match.

I don't think you can compare him to any player that doesn't have ball handling ability. His above average handles and mid range jumper are what give him most of his potential on offense. He has a pretty low standing reach at 8'4 which reduces his overall height after jumping by about 4 inches since most 6'6 players have 8'8 and higher standing reach. But he clearly showed the ability to attack the rim after he started bulking up at the end of last season. But Young has alot of similarities to J. Richardson..and I would compare him to a young kobe bryant without the offensive passing IQ. .

[Silvie Lysandra]

Isaiah Rider was a quality pleyer; he was just a headcase.

Nick Young is not even 0.01% the character problem that Rider was.

[pancakes3]

He's about 2 feet of range and 15 lbs from becoming JR Smith.

[yungal07]

He's about 2 feet of range and 15 lbs from becoming JR Smith.

Exactly. He actually has a much better midrange game than Smith.

[Dobber-16]

A less-crazy Keon Clark.

Great comment

[WizarDynasty]

keon clark..lmao...if he significantly improves his agility and lower leg strength he is right up there with D. Howard. Its all about agility and lowering his center of gravity.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Richardson is an interesting comparison. A superficial look at his numbers suggested Trent Tucker might be a comp.

A quick search at b-r.com looking for players with similar size, usage and efficiency produces a slightly more hopeful list including: Bernard King, Ron Harper (a scorer before his knee injury), Glen Robinson, Jerry Stackhouse, Purvis Short, Allan Houston and Glen Rice. Also on that list are less hopeful guys like Ledell Eackles, Isaiah Rider, Rodney Rogers, Todd Day, Gerald Wilkins, John Long, Kendall Gill, and Don Collins (who played 2-3 season with the Bullets back in the early 80s).

I'm not anticipating a Richardson type player out of Young. Purvis Short -- a significant scorer for Golden State in the 80s -- seems a bit closer except that Short had a rebounding % nearly double Young's through the first couple years of their careers. Numbers-wise, Allan Houston seems a pretty close match.

I remember Don Collins well. He and John Lucas were Bullets at the same time. Collins was a really fast guy. Got a lot of points in transition. I don't think he could shoot like Nick but he was similarly built and scored in bunches. Also struck me as not at all ... cerebral.

I think Nick really compares favorably to Kendall Gill. Not a great player, but not a slouch, either.

In order for Nick to become an Alan Houston, Nick simply will need more FGAs. I do see the similarity but Houston was way better at his prime.

[CrankyTodd]

What about Nick Young? What would you consider a good comparison for him?

If Kobe sucked at basketball, he would be Nick Young.

What he said.

[hands11]

Sorry WD. I actually like your ability to sometimes think outside the box but I can't stand the non paragraph posting any more and I've tired of posting about it. Let me know when your willing to actually take some reasonable input and show some willingness to grow and change.

You are 1 of only 2 people I have now blocked after all the time I have been here.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Keep posting, WizardDynasty, but remember the positive feedback you've received in the past when you discipline yourself to write paragraphs that are brief and to the point. I've seen you write some excellent posts that were structured well and succinct.

(I''m the last guy that will criticize you for saying the same thing over and over. I probably posted 50 posts saying the same things about Blair. )

[dobrojim]

Richardson is an interesting comparison. A superficial look at his numbers suggested Trent Tucker might be a comp.

A quick search at b-r.com looking for players with similar size, usage and efficiency produces a slightly more hopeful list including: Bernard King, Ron Harper (a scorer before his knee injury), Glen Robinson, Jerry Stackhouse, Purvis Short, Allan Houston and Glen Rice. Also on that list are less hopeful guys like Ledell Eackles, Isaiah Rider, Rodney Rogers, Todd Day, Gerald Wilkins, John Long, Kendall Gill, and Don Collins (who played 2-3 season with the Bullets back in the early 80s).

I'm not anticipating a Richardson type player out of Young. Purvis Short -- a significant scorer for Golden State in the 80s -- seems a bit closer except that Short had a rebounding % nearly double Young's through the first couple years of their careers. Numbers-wise, Allan Houston seems a pretty close match.

You're treading on thin ice there my friend. Don't be hatin' on Mr Blackened Catfish
when I'm around.

[hands11]

Keep posting, WizardDynasty, but remember the positive feedback you've received in the past when you discipline yourself to write paragraphs that are brief and to the point. I've seen you write some excellent posts that were structured well and succinct.

(I''m the last guy that will criticize you for saying the same thing over and over. I probably posted 50 posts saying the same things about Blair. )

I agree. I wasn't something I wanted to do but the no paragraphs thing just got to me. It was a more then reasonable request which I think I made like 10-15 times. Like I said, I only have two people blocked.

[Ruzious]

Richardson is an interesting comparison. A superficial look at his numbers suggested Trent Tucker might be a comp.

A quick search at b-r.com looking for players with similar size, usage and efficiency produces a slightly more hopeful list including: Bernard King, Ron Harper (a scorer before his knee injury), Glen Robinson, Jerry Stackhouse, Purvis Short, Allan Houston and Glen Rice. Also on that list are less hopeful guys like Ledell Eackles, Isaiah Rider, Rodney Rogers, Todd Day, Gerald Wilkins, John Long, Kendall Gill, and Don Collins (who played 2-3 season with the Bullets back in the early 80s).

I'm not anticipating a Richardson type player out of Young. Purvis Short -- a significant scorer for Golden State in the 80s -- seems a bit closer except that Short had a rebounding % nearly double Young's through the first couple years of their careers. Numbers-wise, Allan Houston seems a pretty close match.

I remember Don Collins well. He and John Lucas were Bullets at the same time. Collins was a really fast guy. Got a lot of points in transition. I don't think he could shoot like Nick but he was similarly built and scored in bunches. Also struck me as not at all ... cerebral.

I think Nick really compares favorably to Kendall Gill. Not a great player, but not a slouch, either.

In order for Nick to become an Alan Houston, Nick simply will need more FGAs. I do see the similarity but Houston was way better at his prime.

Ah, the Don Collins and Wes Matthews era - brings tears to my eyes. They were going to make the Bullets a transition team... except the rest of the team couldn't run... and Collins and Matthews just weren't good basketball players. But they could fly.

I still say the best comparison to Nick Young is Courtney Alexander - great physical ability - just no concept of team basketball. Of the players mentioned, I'd go with ex-Buck Todd Day as the best comp. Kendall Gill was a physically tough player from my recollection.

[closg00]

Trade Nick while he still has value ( I suspect his value to be low), SG's are plentiful every year.

[Ruzious]

Trade Nick while he still has value ( I suspect his value to be low), SG's are plentiful every year.

The Wiz are very high on young Nick. Out of all their young players, they've talked about him being the most talented of them. And it sounds like Gil likes him, so... don't expect him to be traded.

[fishercob]

Javale's ceiling really needs to be raised:

[TheSecretWeapon]

Isaiah Rider was a quality pleyer; he was just a headcase.

Nick Young is not even 0.01% the character problem that Rider was.

Rider is one of those guys who had athletic ability, but never came close to realizing his potential. He's a guy who could score a lot for bad teams, but never very efficiently. At his best, he had an offensive rating of 106 points produced per 100 possessions -- league average when he did that was about 107.6. And scoring was what he did best. Add in the crappy defense and attitude, and you get what he was -- a guy who was a pretty ordinary SG. His production minus the cancerous attitude would be okay for Nick.