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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1141 » by bringbackhoffa » Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:01 am

Lakers accept

and place wright,alexander,18th pick,nash, j oneil, willie green, matt bonner all on the block.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1142 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:51 pm

The Bobcats and Nuggets have agreed to two separate trades (they are NOT dependent on each other, just posting on one post to make it easier).

Trade 1:

Nuggets trade/Bobcats receive:

Anthony Johnson $2,062,800
Dahntay Jones $1,200,000
Chris Quinn $825,497
Sonny Weems $736,420
Total: $4,824,717 x 1.25 = $6,030,896

Bobcats trade/Nuggets receive:

Francisco Garcia $5,800,000

Why the Nuggets do it:
Our backup small forward position is pretty weak and this trade gives us some more depth off the bench. I really liked Johnson and Quinn as my backup point guards, and Jones as my backup shooting guard, but I signed Antoine Wright, so one of he and Jones had to go.

Trade 2:

Nuggets Trade/Bobcats receive:
Cap Space (using $5.67 million TE)

Bobcats Trade/Nuggets receive:
Rafer Alston $5,250,000

This is exactly what trade exceptions are for, finding guys who are buried on another team's bench and making a trade that gives you depth and a boost in talent. It puts us WAY over the tax this year (which hurts), but next year when we have to resign him, O'neil, Smith and Mason we won't be nearly as far over (especially after Gadz expires). Our bench of Alston-Stuckey-Garcia-Smith-Perkins should be good enough to give us a shot at the title this year.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1143 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:04 pm

Also, Skorff, I think you have a couple of players listed as BYC that should not be--I posted it in the Free Agency thread. One of them is Dahntay Jones, so if I am wrong I will have to include another minimum salary player (which is not a big deal from my end).
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1144 » by SamBone » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:11 pm

Minnesota and San Antonio have agreed to a trade,

Minnesota will send
Darren Collison ($1,215,480)
pick # 24

to San Antonio for
M.Finley (2,500,000)
Boston 2011 1st

Minnesota is way under the cap, so taking on salary does not matter


Minnesota has alot of young PG's and do not see Collison getting the opertunity to grow that he deserves. We have extra picks this year and are glad to turn one of them into a future pick.
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C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk

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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1145 » by CB-Blazer » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:17 pm

SamBone wrote:Minnesota and San Antonio have agreed to a trade,

Minnesota will send
Darren Collison ($1,215,480)
pick # 24

to San Antonio for
M.Finley (2,500,000)
Boston 2011 1st

Minnesota is way under the cap, so taking on salary does not matter


Minnesota has alot of young PG's and do not see Collison getting the opertunity to grow that he deserves. We have extra picks this year and are glad to turn one of them into a future pick.


San Antonio accepts. We gain PG that could potentially lead this team for many years to come and a pick in this years draft, for capspace and a pick next season
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1146 » by skorff26 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:12 am

babyjax13 wrote:Also, Skorff, I think you have a couple of players listed as BYC that should not be--I posted it in the Free Agency thread. One of them is Dahntay Jones, so if I am wrong I will have to include another minimum salary player (which is not a big deal from my end).

I think you're right so Jones wouldn't be BYC. Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1147 » by babyjax13 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:14 am

No problem, I didn't realize it until today, so it didn't hurt me any (of course I did not plan on trading him until Antoine Wright fell into my lap).
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1148 » by TMACFORMVP » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:35 pm

The Indiana Pacers and Charlotte Bobcats have agreed upon a trade.

Indiana sends Jordan Farmar ($1,947,240), Andre Miller ($5,848,000), and Andre Iguodala ($12,200,000) for Brandon Rush (1,934,160), Luke Ridnour (6,500,000) and Rajon Rondo ($9,000,000).

Indiana/Charlotte Outgoing: $19,995,240
Indiana/Charlotte Incoming: $17,434,160 X 1.25 = 21,792,700 > $19,995,240. Works!

Indiana accepts, we absolutely hate to lose Iguodala who was with our franchise early in this competition, and Andre Miller, a true veteran and one of the most underrated PG's in the league. But with the Pacers direction being in a more re-tooling for the future, we felt we couldn't pass up on a deal where we finally get our PG of the future, and arguably in the Top 5 of young PG's in the game right now. Then re-acquiring Rush was crucial as he showed what he's capable of when starting (roughly 17 points per game in 19 starts at G). Also saves some money going forward, but still remain competitive as a playoff seed with the likes of Rondo, Rush, Granger, Millsap, Amare, M.Miller, Dyess, and Ridnour.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1149 » by roc » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:43 pm

Rondo would be BYC or PPP
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1150 » by TMACFORMVP » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:11 pm

Hm, my fault, wasn't listed on the first page of the FA thread. According to the rules Rondo would become a PPP player.

"If a team tries to trade an extended rookie between the date his extension is signed and the date it takes effect, his "trade value" for the receiving team is the average of the salaries in the last year of the scale contract and each year of the extension. This is called the "poison pill provision."


So, Rondo's entire extension, including the $2,094,922 he's set to make this season, divided by six years would average out to: $9,809,570.

Indiana sends Jordan Farmar ($1,947,240), Andre Miller ($5,848,000), and Andre Iguodala ($12,200,000) for Brandon Rush (1,934,160), Luke Ridnour (6,500,000) and Rajon Rondo ($9,809,570).

Indiana/Charlotte Outgoing: $19,995,240
Indiana/Charlotte Incoming: $18,243,730 X 1.25 = 22,804,662 > $19,995,240. Works!

So if I'm doing right, then the deal would still work as is. Not entirely sure I did it right.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1151 » by MJallday59 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:26 pm

TMACFORMVP wrote:Hm, my fault, wasn't listed on the first page of the FA thread. According to the rules Rondo would become a PPP player.

"If a team tries to trade an extended rookie between the date his extension is signed and the date it takes effect, his "trade value" for the receiving team is the average of the salaries in the last year of the scale contract and each year of the extension. This is called the "poison pill provision."


So, Rondo's entire extension, including the $2,094,922 he's set to make this season, divided by six years would average out to: $9,809,570.

Indiana sends Jordan Farmar ($1,947,240), Andre Miller ($5,848,000), and Andre Iguodala ($12,200,000) for Brandon Rush (1,934,160), Luke Ridnour (6,500,000) and Rajon Rondo ($9,809,570).

Indiana/Charlotte Outgoing: $19,995,240
Indiana/Charlotte Incoming: $18,243,730 X 1.25 = 22,804,662 > $19,995,240. Works!

So if I'm doing right, then the deal would still work as is. Not entirely sure I did it right.



Bobcats accept this deal. We're sad to lose Rush and Rondo, but we're looking to go in a different direction here. Andre Miller gives us the veteran presence we'll need to move forward. Our goal is to win games and this helps us do that.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1152 » by TMACFORMVP » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:18 pm

In light of the Rondo deal, the Indiana Pacers and Houston Rockets have agreed upon a trade.

Indiana sends Paul Millsap ($10,000,000) and 2011 Indiana 2nd round pick in exchange for Josh Smith ($10,800,000). Deal obviously works!

Indiana accepts, we shed some money in the long term off of Millsap's deal and pick up a player that's an arguable better fit with our system and youth movement, that can be a playoff threat in the current and contender in the future. The average age of my starting lineup would be an exact 24.1 years old.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1153 » by Miller4ever » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:37 pm

Houston accepts. We'd like Millsap's toughness and style of play more than Smith's, and he would be a good fit next to Yao and taking the physical pressure off of him.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1154 » by roc » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:58 pm

Unfortunately Milsap may not get a chance to play with Yao. :(
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1155 » by vege » Wed Jul 1, 2009 2:25 am

Atlanta will pick up the team option on Joel Anthony and Atlanta will decline the team option on Mikki Moore. I will decide about Jason Williams later :P
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1156 » by LeQuitterNotMVP » Wed Jul 1, 2009 2:43 am

Are the last few deals approved?
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1157 » by Gremz » Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:55 am

Miami will pick up the Team Options for Jamaal Magloire ans Stephon Marbury.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1158 » by skorff26 » Wed Jul 1, 2009 3:17 pm

LBJ4MVP23 wrote:OK, the Lakers and the Celtics have worked out the BYC and TO issues, so here's the new deal:

(Using 2009-2010 salaries)

BOS outgoing:

Joe Alexander $2,583,360
Julian Wright $2,000,040
Daequan Cook $1,362,120
NOH 2010 1st round pick (#18)

Total: $5,945,520

BOS incoming:

Josh Childress $7,271,524
Chris Mihm $825,497 (minimum salary - doesn't count in incoming total)
Walter Sharpe $736,420 (minimum salary - doesn't count in incoming total)
LAL 2011 1st round pick

Total: $7,271,524

5,945,520 X 1.25 + 100,000 = 7,531,900
31,900
7,531,900 > 7,271,524

LAL outgoing:

Josh Childress $3,635,762 (BYC - counts as half in outgoing total)
Chris Mihm $825,497
Walter Sharpe $736,420
LAL 2011 1st round pick

Total: $5,197,679

LAL incoming:

Joe Alexander $2,583,360
Julian Wright $2,000,040
Daequan Cook $1,362,120
NOH 2010 1st round pick (#18)

Total: 5,945,520

5,197,679 X 1.25 + 100,000 = $6,597,098
6,597,098 > 5,945,520

Celtics accept. We like Chill's versatility, shooting, and defense. We also get an additional pick in next year's draft.


bringbackhoffa wrote:THIS DEAL IS CONTINGENT UPON the PLAYER OPTIONS NOT BEING PICKED UP YET, I will decide at a later date whether or not to pick up the player options for the 2010-2011 season.


I sent an e-mail to LA Lakers last night asking him if he approves the deal even with the team options already being picked up, if he agrees then the deal is approved, but I'm just waiting for his response.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1159 » by skorff26 » Wed Jul 1, 2009 3:21 pm

SamBone wrote:Minnesota and San Antonio have agreed to a trade,

Minnesota will send
Darren Collison ($1,215,480)
pick # 24

to San Antonio for
M.Finley (2,500,000)
Boston 2011 1st

Minnesota is way under the cap, so taking on salary does not matter


Minnesota has alot of young PG's and do not see Collison getting the opertunity to grow that he deserves. We have extra picks this year and are glad to turn one of them into a future pick.

Trade approved
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#1160 » by skorff26 » Wed Jul 1, 2009 3:30 pm

TMACFORMVP wrote:Hm, my fault, wasn't listed on the first page of the FA thread. According to the rules Rondo would become a PPP player.

"If a team tries to trade an extended rookie between the date his extension is signed and the date it takes effect, his "trade value" for the receiving team is the average of the salaries in the last year of the scale contract and each year of the extension. This is called the "poison pill provision."


So, Rondo's entire extension, including the $2,094,922 he's set to make this season, divided by six years would average out to: $9,809,570.

Indiana sends Jordan Farmar ($1,947,240), Andre Miller ($5,848,000), and Andre Iguodala ($12,200,000) for Brandon Rush (1,934,160), Luke Ridnour (6,500,000) and Rajon Rondo ($9,809,570).

Indiana/Charlotte Outgoing: $19,995,240
Indiana/Charlotte Incoming: $18,243,730 X 1.25 = 22,804,662 > $19,995,240. Works!

So if I'm doing right, then the deal would still work as is. Not entirely sure I did it right.


If Anthony is traded during the 2006-07 season, then his outgoing salary from the Nuggets' perspective is his actual salary of $4,694,041. His incoming salary from the other team's perspective would be $13,518,358 -- the average of his 2006-07 salary and the assumed salaries in the extension.


If a team trades an extended rookie between the date his extension is signed and the date it takes effect, his "trade value" for the receiving team is the average of the salaries in the last year of the scale contract and each year of the extension (incoming value). This is called the poison pill provision. The sending team uses the player's actual salary when calculating their outgoing salary. They use the current-year maximum salary in place of the (unknown) maximum salary for a future season, if necessary.


So the trade doesn't work
Indiana Outgoing and Charlotte incoming value = 19,995,240

Charlotte outgoing= 1,934,160 + 6,500,000 + 2,094,922 (his actual salary used in outgoing) = 10,529,082
Indiana incoming = 1,934,160 + 6,500,000 + 9,809,570 (average salary used in incoming) = 18,243,730

Charlotte outgoing 10,529,082 x 1.25 = 13,161,352<19,995,240 (Charlotte incoming);
thus the trade does not work

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