Community Thread IX

[Danny Darko]

I am so f'ing mad right now... I just worked 23 of the last 25 days, long hours, and the freakin 4th for holliday pay. My check was virtually the same as it would have been at 5 days a week 40hrs... taxes took all my extra money! almost a freakin grand in taxes??!!!! omg... I could cry... I needed that money.

I would check with your accounting dept. That sounds totally F'd up...

That's totally accurate to the irs rules, but I blew it by not changing my allowances.... damn damn damn

[Erik Eleven]

V,

I'm sorry I brought it up, then. Just wanted to make sure you're OK, Verb. Sincerely.

No, I wasn't talking about anything I posted in this thread this week. That's a misunderstanding again — one that once again escalated all the wrong emotions for all the wrong reasons.

I was talking about how you misunderstood a joke of mine when you returned here about a year or more back, and how ever since that time, you've been throwing unaddressed, self-victimizing monologue remarks around about "people in power on this board" being out to screw you. Before then, I always thought you and I were cool. Since then, not so much, it seems. I guess, in your eyes I must be one of the mods that are after you. I'm trying to tell you that's not the case.

For whatever the naked truth is worth to you, I've never had any personal beef with you. I always hoped you'd stay on the right side of the tracks, and always liked your unorthodox humor. I wish you all the best and that you can make something constructive of your creativity, as opposed to the current destructive.

While we're clearing the air, and I regret to have to say it, but I also hope for your own sake that you can stop the self-victimization soon. Just not for anyone else, but for yourself. There, I said it — with nothing but the best of intentions, nor any sick, condescending, self-proclaimed sense of superiority right due to age or "esteemed modship status" on a sports forum — just as a fellow Lakerfan that cares.

Some personal career advise; if you truly know in your heart you are that talented a rap writer, you should compile and present your best work to people who can make it your income. Complaining about being a misunderstood, suffering artist, and having a too high sense entitlement at age 21 is pretty lame. That is, if you want the opinion from somebody (IQ above your minimum required 90) who has made his living for the last 21 years in the entertainment industry.

This is why it's lame: You haven't even started trying yet. Nobody in this industry likes a whiner. Especially not without unrelenting effort. People in this industry respect artists who stand up without complaining, shake the dust off and do it again after they get beat down, time after time! So, stop whining about it and instead let all the most brilliant Verbal style rap lyrics you've got hang out in your very best presentation, and see how far it takes you. Present your absolute best pitch to record companies, producers, songwriters, artists, and everyone else you can find. And when the first 50 prospects reject you, keep going, based on nothing but your inner belief. Until you've done at least that, you have earned no right to complain about other people's — in your eyes unjustified or "stolen" — success. Then repeat that pattern for the rest of your career. No matter how talented or accomplished you are, that's how an entertainment industry career usually goes down.

In case the above advise upsets you somehow, it was intended to be looked upon solely as personal caring career advise from a fellow professional writer, not as beef or grudge or belittling.

The only one little smidgen of beef I have with you is — as a mod, and only for the last year or so. And you already know it's in regards to your OT monologue style post-padding about nothing related to basketball but instead usually about you and how the system is against you and the mods are against you — something that we've constantly let slide by the last year due a sensitivity towards your paranoia (even if ungrounded) about us mods being after you (we're not), and wanting you to drop the unnecessary guard you have up.

There you go, my air is cleared. I won't go out of my way for you personally again unless I get clear signals that it's OK for me to do so.

I'll give you a week to clean up the posting part of your act, the rest I will have nothing to do with after this. In terms of Real GM, you'll get to decide yourself if you're going to be a "Real GM victim" or if you can manage to play by the rules like everyone else does. I'm out of free passes. If it sounds unfair to you, let me know exactly why and we can discuss it per the standards set up by the Real GM rules.

Much respect.

I'm out.

[dockingsched]

I am so f'ing mad right now... I just worked 23 of the last 25 days, long hours, and the freakin 4th for holliday pay. My check was virtually the same as it would have been at 5 days a week 40hrs... taxes took all my extra money! almost a freakin grand in taxes??!!!! omg... I could cry... I needed that money.

this sucks. keep your head up! its hot out there and the neck gets all sweaty if you dont.

[RJM]

Check this out people. Filming cops during a routine stop. Is it wrong/illegal? Take a look at this video. According to the law etc etc...is this illegal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzVOuj8UFr4

Was he in the wrong?

[Verbal]

V,

I'm sorry I brought it up, then. Just wanted to make sure you're OK, Verb. Sincerely.

No, I wasn't talking about anything I posted in this thread this week. That's a misunderstanding again — one that once again escalated all the wrong emotions for all the wrong reasons.

I was talking about how you misunderstood a joke of mine when you returned here about a year or more back, and how ever since that time, you've been throwing unaddressed, self-victimizing monologue remarks around about "people in power on this board" being out to screw you. Before then, I always thought you and I were cool. Since then, not so much, it seems. I guess, in your eyes I must be one of the mods that are after you. I'm trying to tell you that's not the case.

For whatever the naked truth is worth to you, I've never had any personal beef with you. I always hoped you'd stay on the right side of the tracks, and always liked your unorthodox humor. I wish you all the best and that you can make something constructive of your creativity, as opposed to the current destructive.

While we're clearing the air, and I regret to have to say it, but I also hope for your own sake that you can stop the self-victimization soon. Just not for anyone else, but for yourself. There, I said it — with nothing but the best of intentions, nor any sick, condescending, self-proclaimed sense of superiority right due to age or "esteemed modship status" on a sports forum — just as a fellow Lakerfan that cares.

Some personal career advise; if you truly know in your heart you are that talented a rap writer, you should compile and present your best work to people who can make it your income. Complaining about being a misunderstood, suffering artist, and having a too high sense entitlement at age 21 is pretty lame. That is, if you want the opinion from somebody (IQ above your minimum required 90) who has made his living for the last 21 years in the entertainment industry.

This is why it's lame: You haven't even started trying yet. Nobody in this industry likes a whiner. Especially not without unrelenting effort. People in this industry respect artists who stand up without complaining, shake the dust off and do it again after they get beat down, time after time! So, stop whining about it and instead let all the most brilliant Verbal style rap lyrics you've got hang out in your very best presentation, and see how far it takes you. Present your absolute best pitch to record companies, producers, songwriters, artists, and everyone else you can find. And when the first 50 prospects reject you, keep going, based on nothing but your inner belief. Until you've done at least that, you have earned no right to complain about other people's — in your eyes unjustified or "stolen" — success. Then repeat that pattern for the rest of your career. No matter how talented or accomplished you are, that's how an entertainment industry career usually goes down.

In case the above advise upsets you somehow, it was intended to be looked upon solely as personal caring career advise from a fellow professional writer, not as beef or grudge or belittling.

The only one little smidgen of beef I have with you is — as a mod, and only for the last year or so. And you already know it's in regards to your OT monologue style post-padding about nothing related to basketball but instead usually about you and how the system is against you and the mods are against you — something that we've constantly let slide by the last year due a sensitivity towards your paranoia (even if ungrounded) about us mods being after you (we're not), and wanting you to drop the unnecessary guard you have up.

There you go, my air is cleared. I won't go out of my way for you personally again unless I get clear signals that it's OK for me to do so.

I'll give you a week to clean up the posting part of your act, the rest I will have nothing to do with after this. In terms of Real GM, you'll get to decide yourself if you're going to be a "Real GM victim" or if you can manage to play by the rules like everyone else does. I'm out of free passes. If it sounds unfair to you, let me know exactly why and we can discuss it per the standards set up by the Real GM rules.

Much respect.

I'm out.

Ayyo,

I'm not usually into personal vendettas, and this thing between us isn't one.

I believe it's just misunderstanding, bad communication, and stubbornness.


I appreciate the fact that you took time off from whatever you were doing and lent me some of your experience/advice regarding the entertainment industry you've been a part of.

I've had some minor sales experience (among a few other things) and what you said sounds very familiar to what I've been exposed to before.


I've actually tried very hard to stay away from trouble (going beyond great lengths); it just seems to find me, one way or another.

Like I said before, "cowards like to riff and pry during times of a peace treaty."

That, and the fact I get exploited via wiretaps, computer hacking, professional stalking, etc.

It's not paranoia, it's a fact.

If you think I'm crazy, so be it - I don't expect anyone that hasn't been in similar shoes to relate.

I'm not a celebrity in the public tv/movie/music (entertainment) sense.

Though some know of me.. that's a different story altogether.


And for the record, I think whatever issues we have are just childish and we should both be above it.

I'm a little bit disappointed at myself for letting my emotions get the best of me, but like I said - I'm just tired of all the negative energy around me.

I've compromised enough and it's evident I'm just encouraging the bull by not doing something about it.

I had to vent and I'm glad you decided to respond.

Don't expect it to happen again.


I know what you've done and I haven't accused you of anything you haven't done; I've only stated that I know what you're capable of.

If I hurt the flow of the RealGM Forum w/ my posting and whatever,

I'd be happy to give myself a break from RealGM... if the mods/posters on this forum think I should.


I come here b/c as I kid I liked/loved the Lakers/basketball and it was something that's been more of a positive than a negative in my life.

IE- I'm not big on reading, etc. but I had no problems reading about b-ball as a kid.

I've accomplished what I've come here to do, and I hope my time spent was more enjoyable/helpful than a nuisance for the ppl here.


Although I know that I've done more good than harm on this forum, your criticism regarding my infrequent strings of off-topic posts (in the last year you say? hm.. you mean more like the last 1-2 months since I've been back) are correct.

I guess I do "postpad" from time to time, but hopefully not as bad as you made it sound.


I don't apologize much, but I do apologize to all the mods that had to deal w/ my "post-padding" issue if they ever considered it a major issue.

Though I highly appreciate the fact if mods have given me a pass in the past, I don't think it's necessary - I believe I have a good self-control and I can control myself from doing so - and I've shown that I've been able to do so before.

IE2- for the first 5k of my posts I don't believe I strayed off topic until the late pages of my "verbal memoirs of la thread"


That's just entertainment; me amusing myself and whoever's interested.

But yeah, if any mods got any problems w/ me they can always PM me or e-mail me at my RealGM accounts at: VengenceIsMine1111@yahoo.com

^before anyone asks, "vengeance" is typoed on purpose.




I'm sure you've seen/heard some of my lyrics/acapella before via bootleg or illegal use of electronics, and you're just fronting - but hey - I could be wrong, right?

The point of me letting y'all understand my situation is not b/c I'm trying to make myself look like a victim; I'm just keeping it real with y'all.

I already know some ppl "stalk" me or "follow" me, I'm just letting them know that I know - I don't like it, but I'm used to it already, and I'm eventually going to have to do something to solve my problems if it bothers me so.


If a real friend asks a real question, a real friend should get a real answer, no?

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and didn't consider your question superficial so I gave you an answer.

The truth is harsh, and not everyone can handle it... egos get shattered, friendships get broken, etc.

I can rub ppl the wrong way; I get that.

But unfortunately, I can also give ppl the wrong (usually negative) impression about me b/c I tend to bottle things up.. even when I'm not hating on anyone.

[Kobe and Kareem are probably two ppl I can think of that have been through similar cases of being misunderstood.]

I pretty much do what I want, when I want, whenever I want.

I'm pretty much a free spirit; I could care less about money, fame, status, glory, etc.

I did at one time, but it was overrated to tell you the truth.


I thought I had the majority of the Laker Forum's respect.

It's when I suggested certain posters stop misrepresenting themselves as ppl they aren't and taking credit for things they didn't produce/do that a few posters got all vindictive versus me.

That, and the fact most ppl can be hella sensitive and passive-aggressive: they pick their spots and wait until I'm not around to posture themselves as the winner of a pissing match I'm not even interested in participating in.


I dislike weak, pretentious cowards and I'm not intimidated by them.

Never have, never will.

I was hoping to show y'all that I am/was tough enough handle the truth - y'all can be real w/ me.

If there's anything that's bothering you, feel free to voice your opinion and we can handle it in a civilized manner - just be specific and direct.

I don't like responding to anyone's barrage of accusations and half-truths.

I don't like being manipulated into exposing myself to parasites/leeches/stalkers.

It's a waste of my time.

These pointless/pathetic minds games and bull are just an insult to my intelligence.

Complaining about being a misunderstood, suffering artist, and having a too high sense entitlement at age 21 is pretty lame.

1. Suffering artist? Is that because I'm not hosting my work openly to the public? Not trying to make it mainstream?

2. Misunderstood? Where do you get that?

3. Too high sense of entitlement? I can understand this jab of yours, but the others are off base.

4. How the hell am I whining?
-Because you decided to blow something I said out of proportion and use it as an attack against my maturity?
-The goal of going "mainstream" or "commercial" is to make money.
-Release a mixtape, sign with a label, beef against another label, own a label, is another method to make it.


You're coming at me the wrong way, and I'm not here to prove myself to anyone.

I'm already an established artist.

You're putting words in my mouth and assuming you know what's up about me and my situation w/o even knowing me.

That can be taken as a sign of disrespect and arrogance.



I believe you skimmed through my post angrily and hurried up a clever attack to get what you want.

I appreciate a person's honesty over being patronized ANYDAY.

In most cases, the ppl who try to patronize me publicly are ppl looking to protect their image, (sometimes hugely inflated) egos and exaggerated self-worth.



Here's a quote of mine you might have overlooked as you were responding to me:

IE3-

Damn Herbal. Aren't you only like 20? How have you had all these people screw you over already? Do people really take your lyrics and music or am I just lost in translation?

Sorry to add to the 20 questions, just a little confused to why you got so aggressive.

I'm not 20.

I'm old enough to drink alcohal legally in California, America.

It's not just lyrics. I don't mind sharing those, it's more of a dignity/privacy/respect thing.

I figured if I didn't take the money, fame, and/or tyrant road I'd avoid the bullsh't but I guess trouble follows me and cowards' cowardly ways know no bounds.

I'll link you or copy and paste something for you.

I usually brush it off and deal with it but I'm off the good guy tip now.

And no, I'm not being aggressive yet, I'm just defending myself and correcting any misunderstandings before they get blown out of proportion.

For whatever the naked truth is worth to you, I've never had any personal beef with you. I always hoped you'd stay on the right side of the tracks, and always liked your unorthodox humor. I wish you all the best and that you can make something constructive of your creativity, as opposed to the current destructive.

Current destructive? Because I said I'm off the good guy tip?

Damn.

It looks & sounds like you're ready to frame me and throw me into jail for a crime I didn't commit already by

Painting me as a pathetic self-pity seeking villain of a whinny loser after all you've taken/learned/gained from me after all this time you've been around me on this forum.

I thought I was the one being mature about everything but you've spun this around and really made me feel welcomed.


I guess it's your way of saying it's not your responsibility and you don't wanna resolve whatever issues we have with each other.

If that's the case, so be it.


If not, f'k the internet, we can talk in person.

I don't intend on leaving here on bad terms and Santa Monica isn't too far from where I'm at.

I'd be happy to absorb whatever pertinent/specialized knowledge or constructive criticism you'd like to bless upon me about life.


As you know, I don't appreciate anyone dropping my name and implying anything negative; especially so when what's said isn't funny, real, or pertinent.

Anytime next week should be fine, if you wanna meet up and clear the air.


I'd like to diffuse this problem between us - it doesn't seem like anything more than a man's pride and ego getting in the way of a should be friendly acquaintance.

Just give me the time & location one day beforehand and I'll be there.


-Verbal


Edited: for the PS, typos, and uncompleted sentences.

PS- It's not me, but rather you that's displayed your aforementioned "having too high sense of entitlement" statement here on this forum.. I know you don't want me to go into detail, and I'll spare you the shame for now.

I've been generous, respectful, and gracious with you long enough... check the hate, show me the respect that I deserve, and watch your mouth next time.

[dockingsched]

i like turtles

[RJM]

i like turtles

This.

[TyCobb]

I wanna hear your music Verbal. You have any links to some of your stuff or youtubes or something?

[DoctaJ]

i like turtles

This.

I wanna hear your music Verbal. You have any links to some of your stuff or youtubes or something?

Me too, Verb.

[Verbal]

I haven't been active at school since I semi-withdrew from high school during my sophomore/junior year so excuse my (past) occasional typos & my occasional posts where I leave a few uncompleted sentences.

Edit: Point being, I noticed that I dropped typos and broken sentences recently - I'll gotta start cleaning my game up again.

[Erik Eleven]

i like turtles

[Slava]

The Ninja Turtles?

[hermes]

[Slava]

[Verbal]

I wanna hear your music Verbal. You have any links to some of your stuff or youtubes or something?

No links available for public distribution atm, unfortunately, TyCobb.


But thanks for mentioning it, if I ever decide to go public* w/ anything I'd make it available to those who are interested. (especially those who are willing to pay for it)


*["Go Public": If I decide to pursue a career in the music industry or if I just wanna burn up some time by entertaining visitors/viewers by verbally masturbating either live/recorded/written on my homepage/website someday.] :)

I must warn you... my music can be explicit and offensive.

It aint for everyone... especially the faint of heart.


FYI:

I don't consider my "music" music yet.

-I'm not sure I can even say it's music b/c I believe "music" = fresh/original instrumental + fresh/original lyrics/rap/poetry.

-So whatever I have to offer now would just be the latter (lyrics/rap/poetry).

-Mixing/blending the aforementioned (lyrics/rap/poetry) with a hot instrumental would just make it a mixtape or demo.


-One reason I would consider pursuing a career in the music industry is to work w/ certified professionals/artists (lyricists and instrumentalists) that I respect/admire.

-The hip-hop game isn't where I'd like it to be. (I'll speak on this some other time, in fact, I made a song addressing this issue already overseas)


Freestyling:

-I freestyle verses in my spare time or whenever I'm in the mood to conjure up some lyrics to get some things off my mind; a decent form of alternative therapy.

IE- It's cheaper than going to a quacky doctor/therapist and having him ask you 20 questions over and over and having your parents pay $200 an hour for no positive results. (what a scam)

a) then these doctors make you pay for drugs (anti-depressants) that keep you mindless, tired, and unmotivated.
b) they might as well prescribe me weed and cocaine. (now that might actually lift my spirits)
c) That $200 a hour would be better spent partying and doing **** I'd rather do.


-Depending on my mood I can drop a few, or on rare occasions, a few thousand bars at one sitting (freestyle or written) without breaks now (including hooks, chorus, etc.).

-Since I'm producing it mainly for personal entertainment/therapy while being monitored, I can be a little self-conscious/conflicted at times.

So yeah, I did initially take offense at the hypocrisy of lesser individuals "swagger jacking" & "riding my coattails" and not giving me any credit (props and/or cash) as a teen.

Understand that "they" only did this and are still doing this b/c they figured I was a good guy.

I chose to take a higher road and not sue/persecute them outta vengeance; I guess they took the kindness for weakness b/c nothings changed.

But I'm hoping it's all gonna work out for me in the long run.


Having been through what I've been through and still being kept tabs on has taken it's toll on me and my social life (what's left of it, lmao).

I decided to share this with those that do care or those who are interested in the matter.

I guess if I'm going to continue on this route of lyrical expression (among other hobbies I do for w/o pay) I might as well get paid to do something I enjoy doing - especially if I have the ability to do it.


I've been a regular here for the longest time (~5 years man), and I figured that if I'm going to be/stay a public figure w/ a microphone held in front of my mouth "all the time" (sorta speak), I might as well come out of the closet and just be myself more even if it's not the safest move to make with all the attention/controversy that usually ends up surrounding me.

I'm tired of the lies and the BS; there's practically no escape from being under surveillance so I might as well be personable and let y'all know where I'm coming from and where I stand.


This has been a PSA (public service announcement) delivered from the source (Verbal) to the people (you all).

I hope you enjoyed/understood it and I didn't do this in vain.


-Verbal

[hermes]

maybe you should write a rap/poetry book with just your lyrics in it

[Verbal]

maybe you should write a rap/poetry book with just your lyrics in it

I got a few "book of rhymes" already.

I should make a new one but I'm too unpredictable for it.


Sometimes the urge to write just takes a life of its own and I lose control of myself.

So +3 on the idea; I'll pick up a new notebook sometime soon.

[dockingsched]

The Ninja Turtles?

the zombie kid turtles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

[Slava]

Thats one confused kid.

[Erik Eleven]

Three guests take in on a hotel. The total tag is $90, so $30 each. As the bellhop goes to deliver their bags, the concierge tells him to give them five discounted dollars back because of the long wait. To make it easy math and to make a buck, the bellhop decides to give them a dollar back each and keep the extra two for himself. So, the three guests have now paid $29 each ($87) and the bellhop has kept two. 87+2=89. Where did the last dollar go?