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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#41 » by Pedro Pistolas » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:09 pm

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hobojoe2131 wrote:I hate to be a hater here....but the Jets suck. Just need to temper your expectations.

relax buddy...noone said anything about expectations where just happy the seasons here.ps eli is nothing without plax ; )))


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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#42 » by j4remi » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:09 pm

I'm a big Jets fan but after seeing "SS is better than Cotch" and "underwhelming" comments...I'm just gonna take the high road.
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#43 » by Pedro Pistolas » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:11 pm

But lol@ Jets fans though. Your team hasn't won in how long? But yet the fanbase always seems to have a big mouth..
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#44 » by hobojoe2131 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:12 pm

xKLNx Phenom wrote:Can someone sig that? :lol:

Steve Smith is only a little better than Chansi Stuckey. Both are smaller WR's, that should be most fitted in the slot. I see Smith being a solid #2-3 option at WR. He just isn't dominate enough to be a #1. He's not a big TD guy, nor is he physical enough to be a #1.

Smith had 57 Catches and 1 TD in his 2nd season

Stuckey had 32 Catches and 3 TD's in technically his rookie season.

Smith was a 2nd round pick, Stuckey was a 7th. :-?

Hixon is too small to do anything in the NFL either. Hakeem Nicks won't do much in his rookie season. As it's hard to translate into the NFL as a WR. Barden is as pro ready as me. And Sinorce Moss has been a bust, and Manningham looks iffy.

Cotchery has put up 85 catches, 1,200 yards before. Clowney has breakout potential. And, I discussed Stuckey before.

The difference between the Jets and the Giants WR corp is, that Tanny is looking to add another piece, ala Matt Jones/Plax/Harisson, unlike the Giants FO.


And yet again you look like a fool. Please ignore me again, it's getting tiring making you look stupid. Steve Smith before this year was only playing in 3 wide sets, which we didnt have many of, since we run the ball so effectively, and often. But when he was in, he gets open. Period. Its pointless comparing stats because the Jets passed in wide open sets much more often because they were behind much more often :lol: :lol: :lol: , and they had a 50 year old "gun slinger" playing QB for them. I have nothing more to say to you. Just wait until the season starts and Steve Smith once again makes you look foolish.

btw, you want to add Matt Jones (coke fiend), Harrison (washed up) and Plax (minimum 2 years in jail)....well be my guest :lol: :lol: :lol:

And Hixon is 6-1. Tell me exactly how that is too small.

Nicks was in a pro style offense, so his game is ready to translate to the NFL.

Barden isnt pro ready as I said, but he's more pro ready then you since you have a broken collarbone and cant move.

And Moss and Manningham have had their best camps to date. So...yea once again you're wrong.
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#45 » by BelieveTheDream » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:14 pm

PistoL_D-iX wrote:But lol@ Jets fans though. Your team hasn't won in how long? But yet the fanbase always seems to have a big mouth..

ahhaha NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OUR TEAM WINNING ANYTHING!!! were just excited for the season...yea we know you won a superbowl you guys have arguably the best defense in the league and best o line....personally i feel losing plax really hurts your team cause i dont think eli manning is good enough without him...well see but like i said noone is saying anything about the jets winning or not winning we are jst happy the season is here...
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#46 » by hobojoe2131 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:15 pm

BelieveTheDream wrote:Say that if you want, but all SS does is get open. He is gonna take his game to the next level. We all saw what Coch can do as a no. 1, and it's underwhelming at best.

how is being a thousand yard reciever underwhelming??? he played hurt last year also and is prime to have a big year this year...I admit our reciever core is very lmiited but to say that smith is better then cotchery is just wrong....we have a #1 wideout and no #2 while you guys just have a handful of #2's right now...Unless Nicks can come through but i think it will take him a little time to adjust[/quote]

So you're telling me you're happy with Jericho Cochery as your no. 1? I guess you have low expectations. Coch is a good no. 2, but a below average no. 1
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#47 » by EchelonNYK » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:20 pm

The lost of Pace and Ellis is going to hurt us in that first game. hopefully Gholston finally show up to the party...wishful thinking

they might need to call 1-800-PASSRUSH.
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#48 » by Mecca » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:20 pm

hobojoe2131 wrote:
xKLNx Phenom wrote:Can someone sig that? :lol:

Steve Smith is only a little better than Chansi Stuckey. Both are smaller WR's, that should be most fitted in the slot. I see Smith being a solid #2-3 option at WR. He just isn't dominate enough to be a #1. He's not a big TD guy, nor is he physical enough to be a #1.

Smith had 57 Catches and 1 TD in his 2nd season

Stuckey had 32 Catches and 3 TD's in technically his rookie season.

Smith was a 2nd round pick, Stuckey was a 7th. :-?

Hixon is too small to do anything in the NFL either. Hakeem Nicks won't do much in his rookie season. As it's hard to translate into the NFL as a WR. Barden is as pro ready as me. And Sinorce Moss has been a bust, and Manningham looks iffy.

Cotchery has put up 85 catches, 1,200 yards before. Clowney has breakout potential. And, I discussed Stuckey before.

The difference between the Jets and the Giants WR corp is, that Tanny is looking to add another piece, ala Matt Jones/Plax/Harisson, unlike the Giants FO.


And yet again you look like a fool. Please ignore me again, it's getting tiring making you look stupid. Steve Smith before this year was only playing in 3 wide sets, which we didnt have many of, since we run the ball so effectively, and often. But when he was in, he gets open. Period. Its pointless comparing stats because the Jets passed in wide open sets much more often because they were behind much more often :lol: :lol: :lol: , and they had a 50 year old "gun slinger" playing QB for them. I have nothing more to say to you. Just wait until the season starts and Steve Smith once again makes you look foolish.

btw, you want to add Matt Jones (coke fiend), Harrison (washed up) and Plax (minimum 2 years in jail)....well be my guest :lol: :lol: :lol:

And Hixon is 6-1. Tell me exactly how that is too small.

Nicks was in a pro style offense, so his game is ready to translate to the NFL.

Barden isnt pro ready as I said, but he's more pro ready then you since you have a broken collarbone and cant move.

And Moss and Manningham have had their best camps to date. So...yea once again you're wrong.


Steve Smith is 5-10, not very physical, and is not extremely fast. He is quick, not fast.

Hixon is 6'2 180 Pounds! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Put a physical safety or corner on him, and your dead. He also has butter fingers.

When Moss actually does something, tell me. i loved Moss in college, but he's a bust in the NFL. Manningham needs another year, and Hixon and Barden are rookies.
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#49 » by BelieveTheDream » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:21 pm

hobojoe2131 wrote:
BelieveTheDream wrote:Say that if you want, but all SS does is get open. He is gonna take his game to the next level. We all saw what Coch can do as a no. 1, and it's underwhelming at best.

how is being a thousand yard reciever underwhelming??? he played hurt last year also and is prime to have a big year this year...I admit our reciever core is very lmiited but to say that smith is better then cotchery is just wrong....we have a #1 wideout and no #2 while you guys just have a handful of #2's right now...Unless Nicks can come through but i think it will take him a little time to adjust


So you're telling me you're happy with Jericho Cochery as your no. 1? I guess you have low expectations. Coch is a good no. 2, but a below average no. 1[/quote]
eh im not happy with the wideout core in general but i do really like cotchery.... I think he is a solid I see what your saying .but i still feel hes going to have a big year this year and prove some people wrong...i would just like to take one of your 50 big name college recievers you guys have drafted over the past years to add to our depth...Manningham/Moss/Smith/Barden/Nicks i mean all big names in college just waiting to see which one will come out and do something...out of all of them i like smith the most
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#50 » by Mecca » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:21 pm

echelonNYK wrote:The lost of Pace and Ellis is going to hurt us in that first game. hopefully Gholston finally show up to the party...wishful thinking.



+1 As a Jet fan, I am terrified of Houston week 1. Ellis was our sack leader, and I think Pace will break out in this system.
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#51 » by I am Ra » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:22 pm

BelieveTheDream wrote:ahhaha NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OUR TEAM WINNING ANYTHING!!! were just excited for the season...yea we know you won a superbowl you guys have arguably the best defense in the league and best o line....personally i feel losing plax really hurts your team cause i dont think eli manning is good enough without him...well see but like i said noone is saying anything about the jets winning or not winning we are jst happy the season is here...


nah plax and toomer dropped way too many passes. Hixon and SS give us two good hands options and we can mix up our other young guys who have speed and hands or size and hands. At least we arent going to see dropped passes(it really kills me to see that, because i played receiver in hs).
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#52 » by BelieveTheDream » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:22 pm

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echelonNYK wrote:The lost of Pace and Ellis is going to hurt us in that first game. hopefully Gholston finally show up to the party...wishful thinking.



+1 As a Jet fan, I am terrified of Houston week 1. Ellis was our sack leader, and I think Pace will break out in this system.

agreed with pace....I really hope Gholston can show something and we also have some players who are having huge camps like Jamal Westerman and Marques Murrel who could help out as well...Not to mention Darrelle revis who will finally get his name on peoples radars for being a top 5 CB in the league....
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#53 » by I am Ra » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:23 pm

xKLNx Phenom wrote:
echelonNYK wrote:The lost of Pace and Ellis is going to hurt us in that first game. hopefully Gholston finally show up to the party...wishful thinking.



+1 As a Jet fan, I am terrified of Houston week 1. Ellis was our sack leader, and I think Pace will break out in this system.


whys is pace out? suspension?
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#54 » by Mecca » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:23 pm

Also, we didn't give Sanchez the highest paid salary among QB's ever. You gave Eli, a QB that feeds off his Defense and running game that cake. Sanchez isn't going to pass much, we are going to ground pound the **** out of you, and win on defense, and field position. Eli.... eh....
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#55 » by j4remi » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:24 pm

BelieveTheDream wrote:
xKLNx Phenom wrote:
echelonNYK wrote:The lost of Pace and Ellis is going to hurt us in that first game. hopefully Gholston finally show up to the party...wishful thinking.



+1 As a Jet fan, I am terrified of Houston week 1. Ellis was our sack leader, and I think Pace will break out in this system.

agreed with pace....I really hope Gholston can show something and we also have some players who are having huge camps like Jamal Westerman and Marques Murrel who could help out as well...Not to mention Darrelle revis who will finally get his name on peoples radars for being a top 5 CB in the league....


Revis will have low INT numbers because NO ONE in their right mind will throw in his direction. Absolute beast. I think Vernon's a bust though :( .
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#56 » by Mecca » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:24 pm

:lol: at Hobojoe getting owned.
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#57 » by BelieveTheDream » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:24 pm

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BelieveTheDream wrote:ahhaha NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OUR TEAM WINNING ANYTHING!!! were just excited for the season...yea we know you won a superbowl you guys have arguably the best defense in the league and best o line....personally i feel losing plax really hurts your team cause i dont think eli manning is good enough without him...well see but like i said noone is saying anything about the jets winning or not winning we are jst happy the season is here...


nah plax and toomer dropped way too many passes. Hixon and SS give us two good hands options and we can mix up our other young guys who have speed and hands or size and hands. At least we arent going to see dropped passes(it really kills me to see that, because i played receiver in hs).

eh do you guys think hixon will become that guy??? i have been hearing his name A LOT from analysts and giants fans hoping he will step up..From what i saw of him he does have big play ability but i dunno i dont know how i feel about him. I really donit get how manningham hasn't done anything causei loved him in college and wanted the jets to take him and when you got him i was like ****!!!!!!
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#58 » by hobojoe2131 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:25 pm

xKLNx Phenom wrote:Steve Smith is 5-10, not very physical, and is not extremely fast. He is quick, not fast.

Hixon is 6'2 180 Pounds! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Put a physical safety or corner on him, and your dead. He also has butter fingers.

When Moss actually does something, tell me. i loved Moss in college, but he's a bust in the NFL. Manningham needs another year, and Hixon and Barden are rookies.


Hixon doesnt have butterfingers...he had one drop. And put a physical corner on him and he'll blow right by him for a touchdown.

And I think you mean Nicks is a rookie, but once again, you have reading comprehension issues. HE PLAYED IN A PRO STYLE OFFENSE. Aka he is well ahead of the average rookie wr curve. He is going to see PT.
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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#59 » by BelieveTheDream » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:25 pm

kingofkingz wrote:
xKLNx Phenom wrote:
echelonNYK wrote:The lost of Pace and Ellis is going to hurt us in that first game. hopefully Gholston finally show up to the party...wishful thinking.



+1 As a Jet fan, I am terrified of Houston week 1. Ellis was our sack leader, and I think Pace will break out in this system.


whys is pace out? suspension?

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Re: OT: Jets First Preseason Game Tomorrow 

Post#60 » by BelieveTheDream » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:25 pm

hey giants fans they were just talking on First take about Ramses Barden...Now i know the kid has ridiculous size And if he taps into his potential i feel you may of found a plax type replacement...

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