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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#321 » by thruthefire » Wed May 19, 2010 2:23 am

Wall and Flip are a great match.
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#322 » by sfam » Wed May 19, 2010 2:30 am

I think we definitely play Wall and Arenas. We give up size but with the rest of the team, it absolutely makes sense to go to an up-tempo offense. Nobody will be able to defend both Wall and Arenas. Folks like McGee are gonna like 30% better now without practicing a lick.

And while many here still believe McGee is a future all-NBA stud, I'm just not seeing it. The guy has nothing going on between his ears. I would love to get Haywood back.
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Post#323 » by no D in Hibachi » Wed May 19, 2010 2:32 am

pancakes3 wrote:Ji you magnificent bastard.

+1 Jinx is broken!
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Post#324 » by spaceman_E » Wed May 19, 2010 2:35 am

I'd just like to say one thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KeAaGOX36U&feature=related

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Post#325 » by Ji » Wed May 19, 2010 2:36 am

Top 5 things I am scared of Ernie doing

1) taking Monroe at #1 because he is a local kid
2) Trading John Wall to Minnesota for Johnny Flynn,Kevin Love and Olikeskey Pecherov
3) Trading Andray Blatche for DJ Augustine
4) Selling our 30th and 33rd pick for cash
5) Still being our GM next year
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Post#326 » by schnakenpopanz » Wed May 19, 2010 2:40 am

good luck and congrats from a suns fan. well deserved.
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#327 » by NbdyBeatsTheWiz » Wed May 19, 2010 2:41 am

Ji wrote:Top 5 things I am scared of Ernie doing

1) taking Monroe at #1 because he is a local kid
2) Trading John Wall to Minnesota for Johnny Flynn,Kevin Love and Olikeskey Pecherov
3) Trading Andray Blatche for DJ Augustine
4) Selling our 30th and 33rd pick for cash
5) Still being our GM next year


Ji being Ji, lol, glad to see you haven't let this go to your head.

Honestly the greatest thing of picking #1 is I'm pretty sure even EG can't screw this up!
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#328 » by BigA » Wed May 19, 2010 2:45 am

Great night to be a Wizards fan.
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#329 » by ErikChowbay023 » Wed May 19, 2010 2:54 am

We are either gonna draft Turner, Cousins, or Favors. We wont draft Wall...

It doesnt make any logistical sense.. We have two very good PG`s..
Look at the Lakers fir example, and how they are beating every team in the playoff`s.. They are BIGGER THAN EVERY TEAM THEY PLAY...

Monroe, Favors, Cousins.. Are the best options for our team at the moment..
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Post#330 » by Ji » Wed May 19, 2010 2:59 am

ErikChowbay023 wrote:We are either gonna draft Turner, Cousins, or Favors. We wont draft Wall...

It doesnt make any logistical sense.. We have two very good PG`s..
Look at the Lakers fir example, and how they are beating every team in the playoff`s.. They are BIGGER THAN EVERY TEAM THEY PLAY...

Monroe, Favors, Cousins.. Are the best options for our team at the moment..


lol

even Wes Unseld wouldnt make that move
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Post#331 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed May 19, 2010 2:59 am

ErikChowbay023 wrote:We are either gonna draft Turner, Cousins, or Favors. We wont draft Wall...

It doesnt make any logistical sense.. We have two very good PG`s..
Look at the Lakers fir example, and how they are beating every team in the playoff`s.. They are BIGGER THAN EVERY TEAM THEY PLAY...

Monroe, Favors, Cousins.. Are the best options for our team at the moment..


:roll: u cant pass up on a talent like john wall. u just cant
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#332 » by Ji » Wed May 19, 2010 3:00 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:
ErikChowbay023 wrote:We are either gonna draft Turner, Cousins, or Favors. We wont draft Wall...

It doesnt make any logistical sense.. We have two very good PG`s..
Look at the Lakers fir example, and how they are beating every team in the playoff`s.. They are BIGGER THAN EVERY TEAM THEY PLAY...

Monroe, Favors, Cousins.. Are the best options for our team at the moment..


:roll: u cant pass up on a talent like john wall. u just cant


takings Cousins over Wall is sorta like Leaf over Manning. Ernie should just make the pick now so he dosent screw it up
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#333 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed May 19, 2010 3:05 am

the last pgs drafted one were rose, ai, and 1979 MAGIC JOHNSON. consensus number pick pgs are rare and 99% of the time, turn out to be something special
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#334 » by JWizmentality » Wed May 19, 2010 3:30 am

I can't sleep.... :o
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#335 » by Rafael122 » Wed May 19, 2010 3:37 am

Chris Mannix from SI:

Wall, too, is pleased with his likely next destination: a source close to Wall said the dynamic guard is happy with the outcome of the lottery.


I'm not saying this because I'm a Wizards fan, but out of the top 5 teams that had a chance at the top pick, we're probably the team closest to making the playoffs. Pieces are already there, and we have the cap room.
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#336 » by willbcocks » Wed May 19, 2010 4:08 am

#1 pick wrote:JaVale McGee is the most happiest player on the Wizards. An athletic pick and roll center with a potential super stud PnR PG.


Yup. I am not that positive on McGee, but having Wall might make me change my mind. If we can trade him for an 8-10 pick that would enable us to draft Patterson, Aldridge or one of those other guys, I'd probably do it, but I doubt those offers are streaming in. I definitely wouldn't trade him for a mid first rounder now...


ETA: Wall is tall and long for a point guard. If we want a big team, he's the guy we SHOULD be going after.
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#337 » by WizStorm » Wed May 19, 2010 4:11 am

Just in case if there was any doubt on the curse being broken tonight...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 05225.html
The Wizards just had a 10.3 percent chance of winning the top choice and their luck on Tuesday goes against their past history at the lottery. They were making their 14th trip to the lottery since it became the method to determine the top choice in 1985. It was only the second time the franchise has moved up. As a sign of the Wizards' luck, their number combination also came up for the third pick and fourth pick.

"I wanted three and four, but they wouldn't give them to us," Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld joked afterward.

Not really sure how #4 ever came up though. Guessing they are just saying that when trying to determine the #3 pick, the Wizards name came up twice more in a row.
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#338 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed May 19, 2010 4:23 am

Consiglieri81 wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:They need to try and see if Wall/Arenas will work. At least for a year.


Probably, and I love that we cleaned our houses of veteran trash totally incapable of winning anything and thoroughly capable of pinning the blame for said failings always and in perpetuity on the young guys. Maybe Blatche, and Young, and McGee are idiots. Maybe they'll never get it. But the one thing I do know is that we actually played better w/them, and some Clipper and Mavericks cast offs, than we ever did this year or last With Caron or Antawn.

I love that we have a ton of cap space, a lot of youth, and John Wall, and the 30th and 35th picks. Really the only thing this team needs is a great veteran leader w/loads of character to help be a mentor to the kids. In the space of a few minutes on tuesday, May 18th, 2010, a cursed franchise became a blessed franchise, and can now look forward to potentially legitamently contending for conference championships, and even league championships within 2-3 years. The key now, is that everything we do, surrounding drafting John Wall, is wise. We don't want to waste this opportunity as Cleveland wasted theirs with LeBron, and Minnesota theirs with Garnett. Got to make smart draft decisions at 30 and 35, and smart free agent decisions, and the right decisions on guys currently on the roster. Hell I might keep Livingston and get rid of Arenas, just so Wall could see what sheer determination could do for a player, but i guess there's no point now that we have Arenas and Wall to keep Livingston, I just like him more than Arenas as a value/character/chemistry guy these days.



It's been about 4 hours since the draft lottery, and this is my first post. Honestly, this year I would have preferred #2 or #3. I'm not as high on Wall as everyone else seems to be. For one, this past draft was the PG draft. I don't think Wall will be as good as Tyreke Evans. I see Wall lacking a perimeter game. I don't see him instantly being Rondo. I see him being a decent SG. For whatever reason, I see him being a better-leaping Cutino Mobley.

I really like Cousins and Turner over Wall. I think Cousins is the best player in this draft. I think Turner will be a very solid defender, rebounder, and coach's dream.

Wall IMO won't mesh well with Gilbert and he'll probably clash trying to fit into Flip's inflexible way of doing things.

I'm glad that 99% think I'm wrong--so hopefully, they're right and John Wall is the franchise stud folks think he will be.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the Wizards trade the number one for Turner and a future first, or Cousins and a future first.

The Wizards have Arenas and I don't see him and Wall working very well. I think Livingston and Gil work better. Cousins is the guy IMO who would transform this team. Points in the paint and interior defense is what he provides.
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#339 » by Kanyewest » Wed May 19, 2010 5:19 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:It's been about 4 hours since the draft lottery, and this is my first post. Honestly, this year I would have preferred #2 or #3. I'm not as high on Wall as everyone else seems to be. For one, this past draft was the PG draft. I don't think Wall will be as good as Tyreke Evans. I see Wall lacking a perimeter game. I don't see him instantly being Rondo. I see him being a decent SG. For whatever reason, I see him being a better-leaping Cutino Mobley.


I can see your point of view up until bolded statement. Cutino Mobley? First off, John Wall is a better passer and is a natural point guard. Second, Cutino had a great perimeter game, even in college, and shot >40% in his senior season; John Wall has a long way to go to improve his jump shot, even at the free throw line. Third, John Wall is a freshman whereas Mobley spent all 4 years in college, so Wall's room for improvement is much higher.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I really like Cousins and Turner over Wall. I think Cousins is the best player in this draft. I think Turner will be a very solid defender, rebounder, and coach's dream.


I would say Wall demonstrated that he was a very solid perimeter defender in college. In fact, it was very impressive how he played with great energy on both ends of the floor. It remains to be seen how good of a defender Turner can be given that OSU's zone defense masked Turner's weakness.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Wall IMO won't mesh well with Gilbert and he'll probably clash trying to fit into Flip's inflexible way of doing things.

I'm glad that 99% think I'm wrong--so hopefully, they're right and John Wall is the franchise stud folks think he will be.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the Wizards trade the number one for Turner and a future first, or Cousins and a future first.

The Wizards have Arenas and I don't see him and Wall working very well. I think Livingston and Gil work better. Cousins is the guy IMO who would transform this team. Points in the paint and interior defense is what he provides.


If you think Arenas would clash with Wall because of Flip's coaching, why don't you think it would happen with Arenas and Turner? Personally, I think Arenas and Butler clashing was partially to blame because of Flip but that Caron Butler should shoulder most of the blame. With the Flip's new 2 guard offense, I don't think Arenas and Wall would clash.

I don't know if you are wrong although I'm leaning towards disagreement. Given the Wizards past, (ie Kwame Brown) it wouldn't surprise me if Wall doesn't pan up to the hype. The Wizards are theoretically in a better position if they do feel like Turner or Cousins are better players.

Still even if you like Cousins or Turner better, this is still a MUCH better result than most people expected given the Wizards lack of luck in past NBA lotteries. I think the Wizards will explore their options. If I'm not mistaken, Steve Francis was pegged in as a #1 pick back in 1999 IIRC (or at least Steve Francis had himself going #1) but the Bulls ended up taking Elton Brand.
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Re: The Official Draft Lottery thread 

Post#340 » by Kanyewest » Wed May 19, 2010 5:27 am

Rafael122 wrote:Chris Mannix from SI:

Wall, too, is pleased with his likely next destination: a source close to Wall said the dynamic guard is happy with the outcome of the lottery.


I'm not saying this because I'm a Wizards fan, but out of the top 5 teams that had a chance at the top pick, we're probably the team closest to making the playoffs. Pieces are already there, and we have the cap room.


I don't know if getting to the playoffs in Wall's rookie season would be the best long term result for Wall. It could be wise for Wall to struggle for a year and get another lottery pick that would grow alongside him. For instance, the Supersonics struggled a few year with Durant and ended up with Russell Westbrook and James Harden.

Still the Wizards do have a young core in Blatche, McGee, and Young not to mention EG' has two shots to get decent players later in the draft. Gilbert Arenas can be the off ball option to John Wall much like how Ben Gordon thrived off playing off of Derrick Rose.

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