Lebron/Bulls gossip & rumors (merging)

[Sever82]

Yeah, I could see the Knicks having a hard on for Starbury 2.0.

I wonder how many first rounders will they give to the Wizards this time.

I couldn't stop laughing on my way home from work yesterday when on ESPN 1000 they were talking about how the Jazz got that 1st round pick from the knicks. If i heard correctly it was a trade involving Gugliotta and Keon Clark .

Also I've been saying this a few times, can someone explain the difference between Gallo and Kyle Korver? I see them as the same player and Gallo is a worse shooter. Knick fans overrate Chandler, if anything he's far worse than he shows. He's putting up 15ppg in the D'Antoni system on a non playoff team. As for Gallo, wasn't there a point where D'Antoni began to bench him later in the season because he felt he sucked?

Whats funny to me is that the poster feels Bosh, Gallo and Chandler is better than Rose, Noah and Deng but yet a the knicks trio isn't even better than the Trio the raptors had last year of Bosh, Turk and Bargnani. Rose carried his team in a sense to the postseason, Bosh couldn't carry his team. If there were 30 GMs polled, i would bet the majority would rather start a franchise with Rose than Bosh. I still feel NY has more of a chance for Lebron than the Media gives them credit for but if its a bball decision Lebron makes, it has to be Chicago or Miami.

[Im Coming Home]

Rose is one of the most efficient scorers in the league...care to explain this: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-knicks-3-pointfutility

Also, just for fun:










^Sorry, I couldn't find a center on your roster to compare Noah with so I just used Chandler

and not to jump to conclusions or anything, but...see you in 2010-2011

Funny how you put half your teams starters and sixth man, and compared them to our 2 starters and our regular bench. I like how you forgot David Lee too, especially when you put Eddie House who expired.

Edit: And you used your playoff numbers, obviously they'll be better, less games, less chance of bad games to lower their stats.

Forgot that House is expired. Here:



Lee is expiring as well so I'll leave him out along with House.

We only have 4 players that yo can really use(Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas and Curry ), and only 2 are worth talking about, besides look at the MPG, Toney Douglas was averaging around 18 ppg when he was playing more toward the end.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

We only have 4 players that yo can really use(Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas and Curry ), and only 2 are worth talking about, besides look at the MPG, Toney Douglas was averaging around 18 ppg when he was playing more toward the end.

Ah yes, the Mardy Collins argument.

[Chi Dynasty12]

We only have 4 players that yo can really use(Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas and Curry ), and only 2 are worth talking about, besides look at the MPG, Toney Douglas was averaging around 18 ppg when he was playing more toward the end.

Wait. Do I even even have to respond? It seems to easy.

All this Gallinari love reminds me of when Lord Channing Frye ruled the Garden; I wonder what they did with all the jerseys of his they made?

[t-time]

Douglas averaged about 12 ppg in March and April.Or are you using your stats based between March 19 and March 21 to make him sound better than he actually is?

[Sever82]

We only have 4 players that yo can really use(Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas and Curry ), and only 2 are worth talking about, besides look at the MPG, Toney Douglas was averaging around 18 ppg when he was playing more toward the end.

Ah yes, the Mardy Collins argument.

Yeah thats such a lame comment. If that were a legit argument, Tyrus Thomas Value would've been through the roof.

[Chi Dynasty12]

Latest news from the wiretap: Wilson Chandler busted for grass

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/ ... lice_stop/

(It's like God is a Bulls fan, or just hates the Knicks)

[t-time]

Even the great Jannero Pargo managed to put up good numbers at the end of the season on a pitiful Bulls team.

How about Ike Diogu's end to the 08/09 season?

[shinetime24]

Bosh,Gallo,Chandler>>>>>>>Rose,Deng,Noah and it is not even close.

uh no way. first i wouldn't even trade Rose for Bosh period i know bosh is better now but compare them at the same ages Rose was way better. plus remember bosh went home fishing during the playoffs while Rose has made the playoffs both years. in a few years rose is going to have an argument for top pg in the league and he'll be better than bosh. bosh doesn't strike me as the winning type.

secondly gallo and chandler are not better than deng and noah. no way man, just no way. it's not even close.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Latest news from the wiretap: Wilson Chandler busted for grass

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/ ... lice_stop/

(It's like God is a Bulls fan, or just hates the Knicks)

Well... Its not like Joakim isn't coming down off of his dads post birthday celebration high.


But with everything going on - thats pretty funny.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

We only have 4 players that yo can really use(Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas and Curry ), and only 2 are worth talking about, besides look at the MPG, Toney Douglas was averaging around 18 ppg when he was playing more toward the end.

Wait. Do I even even have to respond? It seems to easy.

All this Gallinari love reminds me of when Lord Channing Frye ruled the Garden; I wonder what they did with all the jerseys of his they made?

Aren't those hanging from the MSG rafters?

[Chi Dynasty12]

Reasons LeBron will be a Knick:

He's a business man! Chicago isn't a big enough market for him!

Toney Douglas>Derrick Rose

Eddy Curry>Joakim Noah

Wilson Chandler = MVP

The Knicks can add Bosh or keep David Lee along with LeBron and keep still 4 players on the roster

Mike D'Antoni's system is tailor-made for the playoffs, when it matters most

Did I mention the big market???

[shinetime24]

Yeah, I could see the Knicks having a hard on for Starbury 2.0.

I wonder how many first rounders will they give to the Wizards this time.

I couldn't stop laughing on my way home from work yesterday when on ESPN 1000 they were talking about how the Jazz got that 1st round pick from the knicks. If i heard correctly it was a trade involving Gugliotta and Keon Clark .

Also I've been saying this a few times, can someone explain the difference between Gallo and Kyle Korver? I see them as the same player and Gallo is a worse shooter. Knick fans overrate Chandler, if anything he's far worse than he shows. He's putting up 15ppg in the D'Antoni system on a non playoff team. As for Gallo, wasn't there a point where D'Antoni began to bench him later in the season because he felt he sucked?

Whats funny to me is that the poster feels Bosh, Gallo and Chandler is better than Rose, Noah and Deng but yet a the knicks trio isn't even better than the Trio the raptors had last year of Bosh, Turk and Bargnani. Rose carried his team in a sense to the postseason, Bosh couldn't carry his team. If there were 30 GMs polled, i would bet the majority would rather start a franchise with Rose than Bosh. I still feel NY has more of a chance for Lebron than the Media gives them credit for but if its a bball decision Lebron makes, it has to be Chicago or Miami.

I agree completely about bosh vs rose. its funny how people compare like a 7th year bosh ro a 2nd year rose, when its clear that Rose is on pace to become better than bosh. its crazy to think wilson chandler is better than deng too. i know i get on deng plenty of times b/c the fact is he is probably the 3rd best player on this team and he is kinda overpaid. but in the end we can't forget that he's still a very good player, i wouldn't take more than 8 or 9 sf's over deng and wilson chandler aint 1 of them

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Reasons LeBron will be a Knick:

He's a business man! Chicago isn't a big enough market for him!

Toney Douglas>Derrick Rose

Eddy Curry>Joakim Noah

Wilson Chandler = MVP

The Knicks can add Bosh or keep David Lee along with LeBron and keep 4 players on the roster

Did I mention the big market???

Bob Ryan was on Mike and Mike this morning - now Bob is from Boston and admittedly biased, but he had a good point. If Lebron is concerned about winning - there are only two places he can go - Chicago or Miami. If Lebron cares more about his image and building his brand, then the likely spot is NY. Based on where he does go should tell us all we need to know about what type of player Lebron is.

[coldfish]

Bob Ryan was on Mike and Mike this morning - now Bob is from Boston and admittedly biased, but he had a good point. If Lebron is concerned about winning - there are only two places he can go - Chicago or Miami. If Lebron cares more about his image and building his brand, then the likely spot is NY. Based on where he does go should tell us all we need to know about what type of player Lebron is.

Lebron is getting hammered for losing in the playoffs again. His brand has taken a big hit by not even making the finals for two years in a row. If he goes to a lesser team, his brand and his income from endorsements will get hit again. Basically what I am saying is that if he wants to work on his image and build his brand, he has to go to the best team.

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Other notes:
- I can't believe people are even arguing about Chandler and Gallinari. They are classic mediocre players on a bad team which gives them a chance to pad their stats and minutes.
- Despite that, Chandler and Gallinari really are NY's only assets. As I said before, if the Knicks are going to get Bosh or trade Curry for a real player, they will likely have to give up both of them. A Bosh, Chandler, Gallinari team to support Lebron isn't even possible.

[Chi Dynasty12]

Reasons LeBron will be a Knick:

He's a business man! Chicago isn't a big enough market for him!

Toney Douglas>Derrick Rose

Eddy Curry>Joakim Noah

Wilson Chandler = MVP

The Knicks can add Bosh or keep David Lee along with LeBron and keep 4 players on the roster

Did I mention the big market???

Bob Ryan was on Mike and Mike this morning - now Bob is from Boston and admittedly biased, but he had a good point. If Lebron is concerned about winning - there are only two places he can go - Chicago or Miami. If Lebron cares more about his image and building his brand, then the likely spot is NY. Based on where he does go should tell us all we need to know about what type of player Lebron is.

Exactly. The current state of the New York Knicks is not a winning environment, and won't be for a long time; LeBron or no-LeBron. Their roster, draft picks, and coach just aren't in the right place to compete for a championship now or anytime soon.

Judging from what LeBron has told the press throughout his NBA career, his main concern is winning. He is smart enough to realize that in the end you are judged upon your rings, and if he wants to be marketable even after his career, he's going to need some rings.

Chicago gives him the best chance at doing that by himself, not as a mutual side-kick on a team already occupied and conquered by Wade.

At the same time, Chicago offers a good market to play in. It's the best mix of the winning side of things, and the business side.

And when it comes to Cleveland, he is surrounded by declining talent. Mo Williams, Shaq, Ilgauskaus, Jamision. The only young piece worth talking about on that roster is J.J. Hickson, who isn't all that impressive.

The best option for LeBron is clearly Chicago; it's only a matter of him realizing it.

[Sever82]

Reasons LeBron will be a Knick:

He's a business man! Chicago isn't a big enough market for him!

Toney Douglas>Derrick Rose

Eddy Curry>Joakim Noah

Wilson Chandler = MVP

The Knicks can add Bosh or keep David Lee along with LeBron and keep 4 players on the roster

Did I mention the big market???

Bob Ryan was on Mike and Mike this morning - now Bob is from Boston and admittedly biased, but he had a good point. If Lebron is concerned about winning - there are only two places he can go - Chicago or Miami. If Lebron cares more about his image and building his brand, then the likely spot is NY. Based on where he does go should tell us all we need to know about what type of player Lebron is.

The Argument Golic made after Ryan was on, was spot on. He was saying that he disagreed with Ryan that if Lebron wants to blow up his image he has to go to NY. In Fact Golic sounded annoyed and said NY isn't going to get an Endorsement deal lebron couldn't get anywhere else and i totally agree. NY makes a difference for a mid level star but when you're the best player in the NBA, you're going to be big time as long as you win and as long as you continue to play the way you're playing. I'm still skeptical and still dont buy Lebron being a bull but compared to Miami, Chicago's positives outweigh Miami's positives when it comes to sports. If he wants to play in front of packed crowds he should go to Chicago, if he wants a better team situation both now and long term he goes Chicago.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Bob Ryan was on Mike and Mike this morning - now Bob is from Boston and admittedly biased, but he had a good point. If Lebron is concerned about winning - there are only two places he can go - Chicago or Miami. If Lebron cares more about his image and building his brand, then the likely spot is NY. Based on where he does go should tell us all we need to know about what type of player Lebron is.

Lebron is getting hammered for losing in the playoffs again. His brand has taken a big hit by not even making the finals for two years in a row. If he goes to a lesser team, his brand and his income from endorsements will get hit again. Basically what I am saying is that if he wants to work on his image and build his brand, he has to go to the best team.

I agree completely - winning is what will ultimately build Lebrons brand. I think what Ryan was alluding to though is that Lebron would only go to NY if winning isn't that important to him.

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Other notes:
- I can't believe people are even arguing about Chandler and Gallinari. They are classic mediocre players on a bad team which gives them a chance to pad their stats and minutes.
- Despite that, Chandler and Gallinari really are NY's only assets. As I said before, if the Knicks are going to get Bosh or trade Curry for a real player, they will likely have to give up both of them. A Bosh, Chandler, Gallinari team to support Lebron isn't even possible.

I think Gallo is decent and can be a good 'third best guy' player.

Chandler is obscenely overrated and is a dime a dozen player. No one is looking at teams and saying - "That Wilson Chandler - he's a guy I want to play with". On top of that - as you've pointed out previously - Chandler and Gallo play the same position as Lebron.

[JackFinn]

Knicksick, I just got this strange call from Shaq. He wanted me to convey a message to you. I'm not sure what he meant. Something about wanting feedback from you regarding his anus? He said you'd understand.

[Sever82]

I love how GalloistheFuture couldn't put up a legit argument here so he went over to his knicks board and started a topic looking for some comfort. Can't believe Knick fans think so highly of two 15ppg scorers on a horrible non playoff team that run the D'Antoni offense. I mean the fact that both Gallo and Chandler dont average 20 or more should scream how average they are as players. I mean i always felt Marion was an average role player and yet he put up 18-20ppg.