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Post#81 » by corwin » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:04 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:i dont think they are actively pursuing top 5...probably too rich since they want to see holiday,turner,iguodala play together.

i think getting to 10-15 is doable but may cost thad and maybe one other player....getting to 20-40 may cost thad and you probably get a guy back that can help you somewhere.


SF are we really talking about a 20-40 pick? Jason Smith was the 20th pick in 2007 & most on this board would give him up for a bag of peanuts. Most of the late 1sts have little value & 2nd rounders can be purchased. Could you ask your source if this isn't just another way to get rid of Young's salary so they don't have to extend him next year? Of course, they wouldn't have to extend him anyway if he doesn't show anything this year anyway.
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Post#82 » by corwin » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:09 pm

tk76 wrote:Found this vid when searching for Jerome Jordan. last 6 minutes of an exciting Tulsa(Jordan) v Memphis(Tyreke Evans) game Jan, 2009. Gives you a glimpse of some opf Jordan's strengths and weaknesses in a big game:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jq841AbOJE[/youtube]


Looked on NBADraft.net expecting the comparison to be Samuel Dalembert. I was wrong, the comparison was Patrick O'Bryant. Seems like a fair return for Thad to me.
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Post#83 » by sixerfan1976 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:47 pm

its not a given that thad is going to be traded draft night. I think he gets moved at some point before next season. If its a 20-40...he could be included or it could be lou or speights or who knows.

i think thad is our best chip in a trade in the top half of the draft.

if we cant get a big we like in the draft..we could try for mullens or thabeet or someone they like after draft.

I kinda think they are gonna go hard for aldrich and if that fails...i think they are gonna try to get to a spot to get jordan/alabi.

i would rule out cousins honestly...they dont have the amno to get to top 6 again without iguodala who as of now is off limits.

things are fluid..just trying to tell ya that lou or thad or both are the probable options in a trade surrounding the draft.
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Post#84 » by corwin » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:53 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Of course it can be a little disheartening if you think they are selling low but I do have some confidence in DiLeo & Collins. Stefanski on the other hand?????
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Post#85 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:18 pm

I no longer want to deal Thad. I don't think he fits, but I don't want to deal him for any of the bigs available after 13.

If we could get a 2nd rounder for Lou and get James, then I'd risk it.
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Post#86 » by radrmd216 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:20 pm

Putting Iggy off limits might be a bad move looking back a few years from now. I would rather try to get a big with a lot of potential (Cousins) then "experiment" with Jrue, Turner, and Iggy.
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Post#87 » by Arsenal » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:35 pm

radrmd216 wrote:Putting Iggy off limits might be a bad move looking back a few years from now. I would rather try to get a big with a lot of potential (Cousins) then "experiment" with Jrue, Turner, and Iggy.


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Post#88 » by freshie2 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:35 pm

So Foster or #10 would give you two new bigs (unless Henry fell to 10). Probably Foster and then Aldrich, Whiteside, Orton or Davis would potentially be available...maybe Udoh as well.

Getting Jack, Bellinelli and 13 gives you a nice backup PG (defends and plays a tough game), another perimeter scorer to compete with Meeks, and probably a choice of some of the same bigs mentioned above.

Would be interesting to see what the price is in exchange for that, but would have to think the Toronto deal is a little better overall. Jack, Bellinelli and Udoh would probably be my first choice due to his versatility, but I still don't know that you can pass on Whiteside's talent. In listening to his interview with the Kings, he just sounds like a kid that never left the sticks and has a lot of seasoning left to do. He would be surrounded by high character/quality players that should be able to help nurture him. So difficult to gauge based on second hand interviews, but if they are @ 13, I don't think he's that big of a risk.

I can understand why they want to see Iguodala in the mix, but if he can get you another top 6 pick, I'd be pretty tempted. Greg Monroe has some limitations, but is a very versatile/saavy big man. If Favors somehow dropped to a point where Iguodala takes you, you pull the trigger in a second!
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Post#89 » by radrmd216 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:18 am

Risk is needed if you want to be a contender unless you get a Lebron, Dwight, Durant type player, which the Sixers will not get. I don't know if Stefanski would take the risk if he was in the position too, but right now he has to make moves that get the Sixers into the playoffs and that might be what does not make the Sixers a contending team in a few years.
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Post#90 » by Do the Jrue » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:41 am

I guess I'm the only one that thinks Sixerfan1976 is full of ****? And just reads around on the articles around the web/other forums + logical reasoning? I've been reading this board for the past 4 years but only been posting for a few months, and the stuff he feeds all of you is just logical thinking. If the Raptors really took that trade they are (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Even though I'd absolutely love to get Aldrich, Udoh or Cousins...I doubt that it'll happen by any of those trades he posted. What I do think is that Minnesota would do a trade of Iguodala and a future 1st for the #4. Thad alone would only get us a pick around 18 and up. I also think that if we took Maggette's contract that Golden State would give us the #6 for Thad, Speights and a future first. And what I think would make the most sense is Iguodala straight up to the Clippers for #8. Clippers are taking a small forward anyway, and would be getting one that is already one of the top in the league.
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Post#91 » by PhilasFinest » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:46 am

yea i think your the only one bro.

SF has leaked info on numerous things that came to reality...hes a credible source of info within the organization.
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Post#92 » by sec-106 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:05 am

Usually scoops Philly.com by 10 days to 2 weeks.
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Post#93 » by KingStefanski » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:16 am

Do the Jrue wrote:I guess I'm the only one that thinks Sixerfan1976 is full of ****? And just reads around on the articles around the web/other forums + logical reasoning? I've been reading this board for the past 4 years but only been posting for a few months, and the stuff he feeds all of you is just logical thinking. If the Raptors really took that trade they are (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Even though I'd absolutely love to get Aldrich, Udoh or Cousins...I doubt that it'll happen by any of those trades he posted. What I do think is that Minnesota would do a trade of Iguodala and a future 1st for the #4. Thad alone would only get us a pick around 18 and up. I also think that if we took Maggette's contract that Golden State would give us the #6 for Thad, Speights and a future first. And what I think would make the most sense is Iguodala straight up to the Clippers for #8. Clippers are taking a small forward anyway, and would be getting one that is already one of the top in the league.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: This moron is going to spoil it for everyone. Thank you very much!!!
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Post#94 » by ZarcMumoff » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:51 am

If we trade Thad and don't get a lottery pick, just more ammunition, Ed. I hate Alabi...don't like him at all. Please draft Jerome Jordan.

And "Do the Jrue"...no you aren't the only moron who thinks SF76 is full of it :roll: I seriously question the motive of some posters. If you think the guy is full of it then shut the hell up. No one cares about how you feel about him. Guy has legit info.
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Post#95 » by The Guilty Party » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:59 am

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Do the Jrue wrote:I guess I'm the only one that thinks Sixerfan1976 is full of ****? And just reads around on the articles around the web/other forums + logical reasoning? I've been reading this board for the past 4 years but only been posting for a few months, and the stuff he feeds all of you is just logical thinking. If the Raptors really took that trade they are (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Even though I'd absolutely love to get Aldrich, Udoh or Cousins...I doubt that it'll happen by any of those trades he posted. What I do think is that Minnesota would do a trade of Iguodala and a future 1st for the #4. Thad alone would only get us a pick around 18 and up. I also think that if we took Maggette's contract that Golden State would give us the #6 for Thad, Speights and a future first. And what I think would make the most sense is Iguodala straight up to the Clippers for #8. Clippers are taking a small forward anyway, and would be getting one that is already one of the top in the league.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: This moron is going to spoil it for everyone. Thank you very much!!!


It's nothing SF76 hasn't heard before. I don't believe anyone pays closer to attention to these boards than I do and I've certainly called out other posters who have claimed to have "sources"... but I can tell you that SF76 is right on the money FAR more often than he's off and his info is out and about well before any other source whether it be nationally or locally.
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Post#96 » by freshie2 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:07 am

Jordan in the 20's seems like good value, but Jordan for Thad is not fair value. I know swings are much more readily available than bigs, but Thad is a much, much better player than Jerome Jordan.
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Post#97 » by Do the Jrue » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:13 am

It's just my opinion. I still always listen to what he has to say but a lot of the info he gives just seems real logical IMO. If one of those trades with Indiana or Toronto happens then I will never question the man again. Coming at me like dude is god lol.
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Post#98 » by freshie2 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:17 am

You are entitled to an opinion, as are those that criticized you. If he brings logical points/discussion to the board, that is more than many here bring so insider or outsider, he is welcomed with open arms.
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Post#99 » by bebopdeluxe » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:48 am

Do the Jrue wrote:It's just my opinion. I still always listen to what he has to say but a lot of the info he gives just seems real logical IMO. If one of those trades with Indiana or Toronto happens then I will never question the man again. Coming at me like dude is god lol.


No...we're coming at you like a guy who only has 25 posts on this forum.

You don't like what he has to say? That's fine. Believe what you want. But when people who have been here WAY longer than you (people who know that sf76 has brought credible info to the forum) come to his defense when you call his credibility out, that should tell you something.
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Post#100 » by agiaco » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:54 am

SF1976- Any word on whether the Sixers organization would pay for Aldrich to get a new tooth if we end up getting him? lol

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