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Post#1121 » by morningstar » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:03 pm

I think we should get Davis off the Clipps, he has a pretty large contract and has never played up to it. If we are talking about a trade with the Pacers, then I would do this trade, but it involves the Warriors to make it legal http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=2cj4h59

I would give our #8 pick to Golden State, Golden State would give it's #6 pick to Indiana, and Indiana would give its #10 pick to Golden State.

The Clipps would not have any First round pick, but we dont need it, we have plenty of cap room to sign quality free agents, plus i would move Gorden down to PG.

Indiana would have a solid Pick at 6, and Golden State would have two picks in the lower top 10 at #8 and #10, there is a lot a team could do with these picks.

I would also sign Livingston back to the clips, along with singing someone like Brad Miller off the free agent market for cheap. Then resign Blake, Outlaw, Novak, and Butler. Seems like a strong team to me.
PG Gordon/Blake/Livingston
SG Butler/Rush
SF Grainger/Outlaw/Novak
PF Griffen/Jordan
C Kaman/Miller
Plus you might still have room under the cap to fill some other spots, like another PF/C
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Post#1122 » by BoomFizzle » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:44 pm

Gordon can't play point. His handle is weak for a 2 guard let alone a PG. I also don't see the other teams agreeing to that trade. I think it will be tough to get any reasonable value for BD plus we don't really have a PG who can take over the starting role unless we resign Blake.
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Post#1123 » by Bullet » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:12 pm

Boozer + 9th pick (+ 2011 Memphis pick)

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Griffin and Jordan?

Baron is aging so the Clippers need to win now. Trading Griffin's 5M+ contract still leaves room to sign another top FA.
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Post#1124 » by Det the Threat » Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:26 pm

Bullet wrote:Boozer + 9th pick (+ 2011 Memphis pick)

for

Griffin and Jordan?

Baron is aging so the Clippers need to win now. Trading Griffin's 5M+ contract still leaves room to sign another top FA.


Griffin's not going anywhere, especially not for a package like that.

And Baron Davis surely isn't the reason why we trade our young guys for older ones.
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Post#1125 » by ClipperEric » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:24 pm

Bullet wrote:Boozer + 9th pick (+ 2011 Memphis pick)

for

Griffin and Jordan?

Baron is aging so the Clippers need to win now. Trading Griffin's 5M+ contract still leaves room to sign another top FA.

Terrible. You're going to lose Boozer for nothing, and even if you don't, you won't 'get anything like Griffin in return.
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Post#1126 » by PerkinsFor3 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:51 pm

Since NO is making Collison available and would like to dumb Okafor's 4 years/42 mil, how about Kaman (2 years 42 mil) for Okafor and Collison?

Gives us a nice backup option (or starter if we trade BD). Okafor is lightyears ahead of Kaman defensively. We'd be stuck with his contract for 2 more years though. Is getting Collison worth those 2 extra years?
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Post#1127 » by Det the Threat » Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:01 pm

I wouldn't take on Okafor and his contract.

He's absolutely challenged on offense, paid way too much and even tough he's better defensively then Kaman i'd rather keep our guy.

I also read that by the Hornets and created a topic on the trade board.

That's what i had in mind.

Darren Collison, James Posey

for

TPE, future 2nd round pick

Posey ain't that great anymore, but he can still give you some solid minutes off the bench and would be an expiring contract a year from now.

That, of course, is only something to think about if we miss out on those FA SF or can't trade for one of those better ones.
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Post#1128 » by Forte IV » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:06 pm

No way the Hornets give Collison away for nothing.
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Post#1129 » by tigermars » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:37 am

Hi I am a bulls fan.

Would the clippers be interested in Deng? He solves your SF problems.

Would Deng+17 for 9th pick be a possible trade?
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Post#1130 » by loflin3hree5ive » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:09 pm

tigermars wrote:Hi I am a bulls fan.

Would the clippers be interested in Deng? He solves your SF problems.

Would Deng+17 for 9th pick be a possible trade?


Clippers need Lebron or a consistent perimeter shooter at the SF spot. Deng wouldn't be a good fit.
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Post#1131 » by Det the Threat » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:18 pm

First of all, we've got the #8 and not #9 selection in this years draft.

We also could not do such a trade before July 1st, which makes including those draft choices pretty unrealistic.

Also, we wouldn't give up all of our cap space while also moving down into the late teens, especially not for a guy like Deng who i don't see as being a good fit on our team.
You should also keep in mind that we'd be the ones helping you guys out(this would enable you guys to go after two big time free agents) and that's why we should something extra on top of Deng and not the other way round.

Anyways, as i don't really like Deng(as a fit) and his contract i don't see this happen.
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Post#1132 » by morningstar » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:57 am

If were trading the #8 pick here I have a few sugestions.

First #8 for #17 and Deng($11.35m contract) Bad move for clippers. Doesnt leave us with any good draft picks and too costly. What does it really do for the Clippers. Not much.

Here are a few I just thought about.

Trade #8 for Grizzly #12 and #25 picks. The Clippers drop a few positions but will be able to draft one of the Three key SF Hayward, Babbit, or George. One or two will be available. Plus we would have #25 to fill another whole on the roster.

Trade with Raptors. This ones a little crazy and involves Ben Davis. Major draft day trade here. Trade #8 pick for raptors #13 plus Turkalu. Then trade Ben Davis for Calderon and Jack. This would give the clippers 3 good players, the ability to draft Hayward, Babbit, or George(One will be available), and leaves the Clippers with 10 million to spend on FA

Trade with Rockets Trade #8 for #14 plus Ariza($6m) Leaves the Clippers with a Cheap quality SF starter, the ability to draft Hayward, Babbit, or Paul, and leaves the clippers with 14-16 million to spend on FA

Trade with Bucks Trade #8 for #15+#37+SF Moute($850,000) Gives the clippers an addition pick, a cheap SF back up, and the abilily to draft Hayward, Babbit, or George

Timberwolves Trade #8+#54 for Timberwolves#16+#23+#45+#56 The clippers should still be able to get one of the SF(Hayward, Babbit, most likely George will still be available) Plus #23,45,56 to fill in wholes on the roster for cheap, and still leaving the clippers with enough money left over to sign a max contract. If the Clippers were serious about getting SF James to the Them this is the trade I would do

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Post#1134 » by Det the Threat » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:38 pm

morningstar wrote:
Trade with Raptors. This ones a little crazy and involves Ben Davis. Major draft day trade here. Trade #8 pick for raptors #13 plus Turkalu. Then trade Ben Davis for Calderon and Jack. This would give the clippers 3 good players, the ability to draft Hayward, Babbit, or George(One will be available), and leaves the Clippers with 10 million to spend on FA

Trade with Rockets Trade #8 for #14 plus Ariza($6m) Leaves the Clippers with a Cheap quality SF starter, the ability to draft Hayward, Babbit, or Paul, and leaves the clippers with 14-16 million to spend on FA

Trade with Bucks Trade #8 for #15+#37+SF Moute($850,000) Gives the clippers an addition pick, a cheap SF back up, and the abilily to draft Hayward, Babbit, or George

Timberwolves Trade #8+#54 for Timberwolves#16+#23+#45+#56 The clippers should still be able to get one of the SF(Hayward, Babbit, most likely George will still be available) Plus #23,45,56 to fill in wholes on the roster for cheap, and still leaving the clippers with enough money left over to sign a max contract. If the Clippers were serious about getting SF James to the Them this is the trade I would do

Just a thought
Would love to see Shawn Livingston return to the Clippers


1) Who's Ben Davis and why do we trade him? :P

2) There's no way i'd touch Turkoglu or Calderon and i surely wouldn't trade down in this draft to trade for the turkish guy. I also wouldn't trade away Baron Davis for Calderon, even if it nets us Jack as well and that's saying quite something about Calderon's value.

3) Keep in mind that we can't trade for more salary before July 1st, cause that's when those contracts are coming off the books and a reason why current draft picks are hardly going to be used in such trades/this years free agency.

4) Again, i doubt next weeks pick will be included in any of those trades, cause we can't take on extra money before July 1st. I'm also not that high on Ariza anymore, cause he's shot pretty crappy this last season. Though, if he's available on the cheap and we can't find anyone i'd start with something like a TPE + future 2nd rounder and see where talks are going.


5) I'm not moving down nine spots(Bucks trade) for an additional second rounder and a role player like that. Guys like Bah a Moute are a dime a dozen and can be found for the vet minimum during this years free agency, especially at the sf spot.

6) I'm not that happy about trading down those eight spots with Minny and would only consider this if both Johnson and Aminu are gone at #8. Though, you've got to keep in mind that Minny owes us a future first round pick which is top ten protected next season and unprotected the year after. So anything that strengthens then wouldn't be too good for us.

BTW: There's no need for Livingston on this team. He's done and declined to come back even though we've stayed with him during his injury.
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Post#1135 » by sanddude909 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:15 am

I'm a Warriors fan and haven't posted this on my own team's board, but I'm wondering if this trade proposal, after July 1, is of any interest to the Clippers at all:

Biedrins
Maggette
#6 (we'd pick your player)

for

Kaman

We dump a wing player that doesn't quite fit our system, a center who was hurt last year but is supposed to be fully recovered this year (and whose best years were with Baron), and the #6 pick in the draft, whoever you want us to draft. In return, we get a center who can score in the low post and rebound. He's not as quick as Andris but he's a much better scorer (and so he replaces Maggette's scoring for us)

You wind up taking on extra salary, which is why you get our pick and we don't ask for yours.

The financial burden of 3 more years of salary (Andris gets $9 million a year for 4 years and Corey gets $9.6, $10.2, and $10.9 for the next 3 years as opposed to Kaman getting $22 million for 2 years = $30 million more) may squish the deal, which would be understandable.

But this trade does get you your starting SF, a legit center, and an extra, high, draft pick.

For us, it clears salary and gets rid of our most expensive and most productive wing player in return for the best center we've had in a very long time.
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Post#1136 » by SportsFan215 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:22 am

sanddude909 wrote:I'm a Warriors fan and haven't posted this on my own team's board, but I'm wondering if this trade proposal, after July 1, is of any interest to the Clippers at all:

Biedrins
Maggette
#6 (we'd pick your player)

for

Kaman

We dump a wing player that doesn't quite fit our system, a center who was hurt last year but is supposed to be fully recovered this year (and whose best years were with Baron), and the #6 pick in the draft, whoever you want us to draft. In return, we get a center who can score in the low post and rebound. He's not as quick as Andris but he's a much better scorer (and so he replaces Maggette's scoring for us)

You wind up taking on extra salary, which is why you get our pick and we don't ask for yours.

The financial burden of 3 more years of salary (Andris gets $9 million a year for 4 years and Corey gets $9.6, $10.2, and $10.9 for the next 3 years as opposed to Kaman getting $22 million for 2 years = $30 million more) may squish the deal, which would be understandable.

But this trade does get you your starting SF, a legit center, and an extra, high, draft pick.

For us, it clears salary and gets rid of our most expensive and most productive wing player in return for the best center we've had in a very long time.


No thanks. We don't want Maggette back and his contract, especially at the expense of our cap space.
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Post#1137 » by heathmalc » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:29 am

Couple trade ideas between the Cavs & Clips:

Cavs get: Baron Davis, #8

Clippers get: Mo Williams, Anthony Parker

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Cavs get: Baron Davis, D.Jordan, #8

Clippers get: Mo Williams, Moon, JJ Hickson


Just a couple of ideas
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Post#1138 » by clippermitch » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:08 am

I dont like the idea of trading the #8 pick just to dump Baron's contract. Especially not for Mo williams. Maybe if it was for someone like Devin Harris.
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Post#1139 » by heathmalc » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:57 pm

clippermitch wrote:I dont like the idea of trading the #8 pick just to dump Baron's contract. Especially not for Mo williams. Maybe if it was for someone like Devin Harris.


Mo Williams' only weakness is defensively. It never showed until the Cavs played Boston in the playoffs, and Mo was matched-up with Rondo... who went on to make everybody who guarded him look bad, with a couple exceptions (LeBron, Kobe).

Offensively, you cannot find a better point guard who has the handles, shooting, and ability to drive & pass that Mo has. If you want a defensive PG, then Mo is not your guy. But, Baron is old, his contract sucks, and he doesn't fit the Clippers team. Mo would fix all of those problems for you.
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Post#1140 » by Det the Threat » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:29 pm

heathmalc wrote:
clippermitch wrote:I dont like the idea of trading the #8 pick just to dump Baron's contract. Especially not for Mo williams. Maybe if it was for someone like Devin Harris.


Mo Williams' only weakness is defensively. It never showed until the Cavs played Boston in the playoffs, and Mo was matched-up with Rondo... who went on to make everybody who guarded him look bad, with a couple exceptions (LeBron, Kobe).

Offensively, you cannot find a better point guard who has the handles, shooting, and ability to drive & pass that Mo has. If you want a defensive PG, then Mo is not your guy. But, Baron is old, his contract sucks, and he doesn't fit the Clippers team. Mo would fix all of those problems for you.


Mo Wiliams ain't a great point guard as he's more of a shooter playing that position.
He shined thanks to being on a team with Lebron, who got the ball and initiated Clevelands offense on his own, which made Williams main job being a good shooter to create space for Lebron.

There's no way we'd trade that #8 pick and Baron for Williams, as Williams isn't the guy that would fix our problems.

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